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9snickers
03-14-2007, 04:17 PM
I have just purchased a 1963 Avanti from my mother it has been in storage for 30 years and I have completely rebuilt the motor and supercharger now I am looking for options for the tires or wheels or both. can anybody give me a modern replacement for the original tires that came on the car or maybe even a good place to buy aluminum wheels and radial tires. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thank You! Tim

glen
03-14-2007, 04:37 PM
The following is a thread from a few days ago:

http://www.studebakerdriversclub.com/sdc_forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8961&SearchTerms=tire,conversion

with serval different options and or opinions.
Anyway it will be a start and hope it helps.

Glen Brose
East of Chino Valley, AZ
The Home of "Charlene"
53 Champion Tudr Sedan
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g204/glen_05/StudebakeratBarona.png

glen
03-14-2007, 04:37 PM
The following is a thread from a few days ago:

http://www.studebakerdriversclub.com/sdc_forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8961&SearchTerms=tire,conversion

with serval different options and or opinions.
Anyway it will be a start and hope it helps.

Glen Brose
East of Chino Valley, AZ
The Home of "Charlene"
53 Champion Tudr Sedan
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g204/glen_05/StudebakeratBarona.png

1956 Hawk
03-14-2007, 04:40 PM
If you run a search on this site you should find a lot of options. As far as original size tires go I have found 215/75s to be closest to the original height. If you get aftermarket wheels make sure they have the right offset. You can run a much wider tire if you measure everything correctly. I am running 255/60s on the back of my Hawk.
David

1956 Hawk
03-14-2007, 04:40 PM
If you run a search on this site you should find a lot of options. As far as original size tires go I have found 215/75s to be closest to the original height. If you get aftermarket wheels make sure they have the right offset. You can run a much wider tire if you measure everything correctly. I am running 255/60s on the back of my Hawk.
David

bige
03-14-2007, 05:12 PM
I run Perelli 215/75's on Ford 15X6 rims. The look is very stock, the ride is great and the car handles nicely.

ErnieR

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r241/AvantiR2/avnatiglamour007.jpg

bige
03-14-2007, 05:12 PM
I run Perelli 215/75's on Ford 15X6 rims. The look is very stock, the ride is great and the car handles nicely.

ErnieR

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r241/AvantiR2/avnatiglamour007.jpg

azrael4h
03-14-2007, 07:44 PM
I noticed an ad for 15x6 rims in Turning Wheels, claimed they would fit a disc brake car, which is what caught my eye more than anything. So you might check there. As to tire size, I wouldn't know what'd work best.

Guard: Where are you going in such a hurry?
Gorrak the ranger: Uhhh...Gorrak have quiche in oven!!
Guard: well hurry along.

1953 Champion 2 door Sedan
2006 Chevrolet Cobalt LS Coupe

azrael4h
03-14-2007, 07:44 PM
I noticed an ad for 15x6 rims in Turning Wheels, claimed they would fit a disc brake car, which is what caught my eye more than anything. So you might check there. As to tire size, I wouldn't know what'd work best.

Guard: Where are you going in such a hurry?
Gorrak the ranger: Uhhh...Gorrak have quiche in oven!!
Guard: well hurry along.

1953 Champion 2 door Sedan
2006 Chevrolet Cobalt LS Coupe

JBOYLE
03-14-2007, 11:02 PM
I'm going to be putting new tires on my 63...sooner rather than later.
I want to keep the car's stock wheels.
Anyone care to recommend a brand or model of 215/75s that looks the part treadwise and whitewall (1" to 1.5") wise?

63 Avanti R1 2788
1914 Stutz Bearcat
(George Barris replica)

Washington State

JBOYLE
03-14-2007, 11:02 PM
I'm going to be putting new tires on my 63...sooner rather than later.
I want to keep the car's stock wheels.
Anyone care to recommend a brand or model of 215/75s that looks the part treadwise and whitewall (1" to 1.5") wise?

63 Avanti R1 2788
1914 Stutz Bearcat
(George Barris replica)

Washington State

53k
03-15-2007, 08:00 AM
quote:Originally posted by JBOYLE

I'm going to be putting new tires on my 63...sooner rather than later.
Anyone care to recommend a brand or model of 215/75s that looks the part treadwise and whitewall (1" to 1.5") wise?
63 Avanti R1 2788
1914 Stutz Bearcat
(George Barris replica)
Washington State

About the only way you will find that whitewall width on a radial is with Diamondback, pricey, but good. Try http://www.widewhitewalltires.com/index.htm


[img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/R-4.JPG[/img=right][img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/64L.JPG[/img=right][img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/64P.jpg[/img=right][img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/53K.jpg[/img=right]Paul Johnson
'53 Commander Starliner (since 1966)
'64 Daytona Wagonaire (original owner)
'64 Daytona Convertible (2006)
Museum R-4 engine

53k
03-15-2007, 08:00 AM
quote:Originally posted by JBOYLE

I'm going to be putting new tires on my 63...sooner rather than later.
Anyone care to recommend a brand or model of 215/75s that looks the part treadwise and whitewall (1" to 1.5") wise?
63 Avanti R1 2788
1914 Stutz Bearcat
(George Barris replica)
Washington State

About the only way you will find that whitewall width on a radial is with Diamondback, pricey, but good. Try http://www.widewhitewalltires.com/index.htm


[img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/R-4.JPG[/img=right][img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/64L.JPG[/img=right][img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/64P.jpg[/img=right][img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/53K.jpg[/img=right]Paul Johnson
'53 Commander Starliner (since 1966)
'64 Daytona Wagonaire (original owner)
'64 Daytona Convertible (2006)
Museum R-4 engine

sbca96
03-15-2007, 12:33 PM
I would suggest a 70 series tire over a 75, the shorter sidewall will
help in steering response, but not adversely affect ride. 6 inch wide
wheels will improve things all around.

Tom

'63 Avanti, zinc plated drilled & slotted 03 Mustang Cobra 13" front disc/98 GT rear brakes, 03 Cobra 17" wheels, GM alt, 97 Z28 leather seats, soon: 97 Z28 T-56 6-spd, Ported heads w/SST full flow valves, 'R3' 276 cam, Edelbrock AFB Carb, GM HEI distributor, 8.8mm plug wires

sbca96
03-15-2007, 12:33 PM
I would suggest a 70 series tire over a 75, the shorter sidewall will
help in steering response, but not adversely affect ride. 6 inch wide
wheels will improve things all around.

Tom

'63 Avanti, zinc plated drilled & slotted 03 Mustang Cobra 13" front disc/98 GT rear brakes, 03 Cobra 17" wheels, GM alt, 97 Z28 leather seats, soon: 97 Z28 T-56 6-spd, Ported heads w/SST full flow valves, 'R3' 276 cam, Edelbrock AFB Carb, GM HEI distributor, 8.8mm plug wires

bige
03-15-2007, 03:41 PM
If you haven't done it already go to the TireRack web site. All the specs are there including white wall width. That's how I picked my tires. The 75 series are a little tall and skinny but I like the way they fill the wheel well.

I actually bought a set of American Racing wheels for the car years ago and when they were on I decided I preferred the WW and hubcap look. I put the wheels on a 65 Monaco I had at the time. Offset is critical on the aftermarkets unless you like them sticking out of the wheel wells.

ErnieR

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r241/AvantiR2/avnatiglamour007.jpg

bige
03-15-2007, 03:41 PM
If you haven't done it already go to the TireRack web site. All the specs are there including white wall width. That's how I picked my tires. The 75 series are a little tall and skinny but I like the way they fill the wheel well.

I actually bought a set of American Racing wheels for the car years ago and when they were on I decided I preferred the WW and hubcap look. I put the wheels on a 65 Monaco I had at the time. Offset is critical on the aftermarkets unless you like them sticking out of the wheel wells.

ErnieR

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r241/AvantiR2/avnatiglamour007.jpg

bige
03-15-2007, 03:43 PM
I drove my car with the stock rims and p215's for a few years. I would have trouble with the hubcaps rotating. I replaced some tires that were not worn but old. They had hardened to a point that traction was suffering. When I replaced the tires I did the rims. The car rode noticably better. Same size tire but I believe using the proper rim width allows the sidewalls to flex as they should. The std. rims visibly pinched the tire inwards. Also, the hubcab rotation stopped completely. I'm thinking that the old wheels were flexing enough to allow the caps to move.

Painted the Stude' white I doubt anyone would realize the rims weren't the originals.

ErnieR


quote:Originally posted by JBOYLE

I'm going to be putting new tires on my 63...sooner rather than later.
I want to keep the car's stock wheels.
Anyone care to recommend a brand or model of 215/75s that looks the part treadwise and whitewall (1" to 1.5") wise?

63 Avanti R1 2788
1914 Stutz Bearcat
(George Barris replica)

Washington State


http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r241/AvantiR2/avnatiglamour007.jpg

bige
03-15-2007, 03:43 PM
I drove my car with the stock rims and p215's for a few years. I would have trouble with the hubcaps rotating. I replaced some tires that were not worn but old. They had hardened to a point that traction was suffering. When I replaced the tires I did the rims. The car rode noticably better. Same size tire but I believe using the proper rim width allows the sidewalls to flex as they should. The std. rims visibly pinched the tire inwards. Also, the hubcab rotation stopped completely. I'm thinking that the old wheels were flexing enough to allow the caps to move.

Painted the Stude' white I doubt anyone would realize the rims weren't the originals.

ErnieR


quote:Originally posted by JBOYLE

I'm going to be putting new tires on my 63...sooner rather than later.
I want to keep the car's stock wheels.
Anyone care to recommend a brand or model of 215/75s that looks the part treadwise and whitewall (1" to 1.5") wise?

63 Avanti R1 2788
1914 Stutz Bearcat
(George Barris replica)

Washington State


http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r241/AvantiR2/avnatiglamour007.jpg

sbca96
03-15-2007, 06:45 PM
Yah .. my Avanti hubcaps kept coming off, grew tired of losing one at
lunch, and having to go back to some street after work and search for
the dang thing! Had the same problem with my Hawk - losing hubcaps!
Needless to say, thats one of the reasons I dont have hubcaps anymore.;)

http://hometown.aol.com/sbca96/images/Avantinewimages/Cobra_brake_breakin/cobra_brake_testdrive007a_thumb.jpg

Tom


quote:Originally posted by bige

I would have trouble with the hubcaps rotating.

sbca96
03-15-2007, 06:45 PM
Yah .. my Avanti hubcaps kept coming off, grew tired of losing one at
lunch, and having to go back to some street after work and search for
the dang thing! Had the same problem with my Hawk - losing hubcaps!
Needless to say, thats one of the reasons I dont have hubcaps anymore.;)

http://hometown.aol.com/sbca96/images/Avantinewimages/Cobra_brake_breakin/cobra_brake_testdrive007a_thumb.jpg

Tom


quote:Originally posted by bige

I would have trouble with the hubcaps rotating.

theGman
03-17-2007, 02:22 PM
Anyone remember the stock offset on Avanti wheels?

I wrote it down somewhere. Hoping to avoid taking one off and measuring.

Thanks!

theGman
03-17-2007, 02:22 PM
Anyone remember the stock offset on Avanti wheels?

I wrote it down somewhere. Hoping to avoid taking one off and measuring.

Thanks!

sbca96
03-17-2007, 08:28 PM
http://www.studebaker-info.org/rjtechx3.html#Wheels

Tom

sbca96
03-17-2007, 08:28 PM
http://www.studebaker-info.org/rjtechx3.html#Wheels

Tom

rockinhawk
03-18-2007, 07:26 AM
I run 205/70's on the front and 215/75's on the rear of my Avanti II with 5th ave. Chrysler wheels. The different tire size gives the rake of a Studebaker Avanti. The combination has worked well for several years. NT


Neil Thornton
Hazlehurst, GA
'57 Silver Hawk
'56 Sky Hawk
'51 2R16 dump truck
Many others.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/avatar2.jpg

rockinhawk
03-18-2007, 07:26 AM
I run 205/70's on the front and 215/75's on the rear of my Avanti II with 5th ave. Chrysler wheels. The different tire size gives the rake of a Studebaker Avanti. The combination has worked well for several years. NT


Neil Thornton
Hazlehurst, GA
'57 Silver Hawk
'56 Sky Hawk
'51 2R16 dump truck
Many others.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/avatar2.jpg

theGman
03-19-2007, 04:21 PM
quote:Originally posted by sbca96

http://www.studebaker-info.org/rjtechx3.html#Wheels

Tom



The links are down. That's why I asked.

Thanks.

theGman
03-19-2007, 04:21 PM
quote:Originally posted by sbca96

http://www.studebaker-info.org/rjtechx3.html#Wheels

Tom



The links are down. That's why I asked.

Thanks.

sbca96
03-20-2007, 10:15 AM
quote:Originally posted by theGman
The links are down. That's why I asked.

Weird .. they work for me. I checked it before I posted. Here is the
section for wheel backspacing - Tom:

Sep 2004
-------
It turns out there is a wheel wholesaler warehouse here in fargo that
has some of the ford rims in stock.

I went over there friday with a tape measure and got some dimensions.
I also remeasured my stock '53 rims this weekend and also a '63 lark
stock rim I have around. So here for future reference is what I
found....

Stock '53 rim:

Tire bead inside Width: 5"
Overall outside width: 6-1/8"
Backspacing: 4-3/8"
Offset (tire centerline to inside edge): 1-5/16"
Center hole ID: 2-3/4"

Stock '63 lark rim:

Tire bead inside width: 4-1/2"
Overall outside width: 5-5/8"
Backspacing: 3-5/8"
Offset (tire centerline to inside edge): 1-1/16"
Center hole ID: forgot to measure

6" Ford rim, NWRA X-40273:

Tire bead inside width: 6"
Overall outside width: 7-1/8"
Backspacing: 4-1/8"
Offset (tire centerline to inside edge): 9/16"
Center hole ID: 2-3/4"

Currently, my '53 has a stock mid 70's Maverick 8" rear end in it.
With the stock '53 rims, my track width from center to center of the
rear tires is about 54-1/2" to 54-3/4". I have 205/75R15 tires on it
and there is about 3" to 3-1/2" clearance from the tire sidewall to
the fender lip on each side.

While at the zone meet in WI last month, I took the opportunity to
check out some other cars. There was a '54 Champion hardtop there
with stock sized bias tires (6.70-15). I'll assume it had the stock
wheels since everything else about it was stock.... Track width was
56-1/4" center to center and about 2 to 2-1/2" clearance from the
sidewalls to the fender lips. I also checked the rear track on a '58
packard hawk and it was also 56-1/4".

Soooo. It would appear that the Maverick rear end is about 1-1/2" to
1-3/4" inches narrower than the original rear was in my car. Taking
into account the rim width increase and change in offset, if I put
these wider rims on the back, I should increase my track width about
1-1/2" and get back what was lost. The outside of the wheel should
push out 1-1/4" over what I have now and will make my fender clearance
essentially the same as the stock setup was like I measured on that
'54.

Jeff Hopman
'53 Starliner

sbca96
03-20-2007, 10:15 AM
quote:Originally posted by theGman
The links are down. That's why I asked.

Weird .. they work for me. I checked it before I posted. Here is the
section for wheel backspacing - Tom:

Sep 2004
-------
It turns out there is a wheel wholesaler warehouse here in fargo that
has some of the ford rims in stock.

I went over there friday with a tape measure and got some dimensions.
I also remeasured my stock '53 rims this weekend and also a '63 lark
stock rim I have around. So here for future reference is what I
found....

Stock '53 rim:

Tire bead inside Width: 5"
Overall outside width: 6-1/8"
Backspacing: 4-3/8"
Offset (tire centerline to inside edge): 1-5/16"
Center hole ID: 2-3/4"

Stock '63 lark rim:

Tire bead inside width: 4-1/2"
Overall outside width: 5-5/8"
Backspacing: 3-5/8"
Offset (tire centerline to inside edge): 1-1/16"
Center hole ID: forgot to measure

6" Ford rim, NWRA X-40273:

Tire bead inside width: 6"
Overall outside width: 7-1/8"
Backspacing: 4-1/8"
Offset (tire centerline to inside edge): 9/16"
Center hole ID: 2-3/4"

Currently, my '53 has a stock mid 70's Maverick 8" rear end in it.
With the stock '53 rims, my track width from center to center of the
rear tires is about 54-1/2" to 54-3/4". I have 205/75R15 tires on it
and there is about 3" to 3-1/2" clearance from the tire sidewall to
the fender lip on each side.

While at the zone meet in WI last month, I took the opportunity to
check out some other cars. There was a '54 Champion hardtop there
with stock sized bias tires (6.70-15). I'll assume it had the stock
wheels since everything else about it was stock.... Track width was
56-1/4" center to center and about 2 to 2-1/2" clearance from the
sidewalls to the fender lips. I also checked the rear track on a '58
packard hawk and it was also 56-1/4".

Soooo. It would appear that the Maverick rear end is about 1-1/2" to
1-3/4" inches narrower than the original rear was in my car. Taking
into account the rim width increase and change in offset, if I put
these wider rims on the back, I should increase my track width about
1-1/2" and get back what was lost. The outside of the wheel should
push out 1-1/4" over what I have now and will make my fender clearance
essentially the same as the stock setup was like I measured on that
'54.

Jeff Hopman
'53 Starliner