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showbizkid
03-13-2007, 05:33 AM
Running thru ads on ebay, I saw this pic from a 1955 brochure:

http://i18.ebayimg.com/04/i/000/91/da/234a_1_sbol.JPG

I was just thinking how much fun it would be to mess with the show judges by painting a frame & driveline yellow, installing it under a car, and then claiming it was originally from a factory photo-shoot [}:)]


[img=left]http://members.cox.net/clarknovak/lark.gif[/img=left]

Clark in San Diego
'63 F2/Lark Standard
http://studeblogger.blogspot.com

BobPalma
03-13-2007, 06:20 AM
OK, Trivia Buffs: What is the immediate outstanding clue that indicates the chassis and running gear pictured in that brochure are, in fact, 1955 model year, not 1954 or earlier? BP

BobPalma
03-13-2007, 06:20 AM
OK, Trivia Buffs: What is the immediate outstanding clue that indicates the chassis and running gear pictured in that brochure are, in fact, 1955 model year, not 1954 or earlier? BP

studeski
03-13-2007, 06:26 AM
Doncha think they are already confused enough? (Omaha)

Claude Chmielewski
Studeski
http://www.studeski.com
Fillmore, Wisconsin
47 M-16 Truck
62 GT Hawk
63 Lark
64 Commander Wagonaire
50 Champion Regal (parts car)
[img=left]http://www.studeski.com/62hawk/dakota01.jpg[/img=left]
"One after another they volunteered how in their families and in their
communities they were expected to be responsible for their behavior, how
honesty was assumed to be the rule, not the exception. They also talked
matter-of-factly about the sense of duty to their country, a sentiment not
much in fashion anymore."

studeski
03-13-2007, 06:26 AM
Doncha think they are already confused enough? (Omaha)

Claude Chmielewski
Studeski
http://www.studeski.com
Fillmore, Wisconsin
47 M-16 Truck
62 GT Hawk
63 Lark
64 Commander Wagonaire
50 Champion Regal (parts car)
[img=left]http://www.studeski.com/62hawk/dakota01.jpg[/img=left]
"One after another they volunteered how in their families and in their
communities they were expected to be responsible for their behavior, how
honesty was assumed to be the rule, not the exception. They also talked
matter-of-factly about the sense of duty to their country, a sentiment not
much in fashion anymore."

N8N
03-13-2007, 06:43 AM
Bob,

the engine (well, parts of it anyway) is painted Alberta Blue, which was only used for the '55 model year.

nate

(finally, a trivia question I can answer!)

--
55 Commander Starlight
http://members.cox.net/njnagel

N8N
03-13-2007, 06:43 AM
Bob,

the engine (well, parts of it anyway) is painted Alberta Blue, which was only used for the '55 model year.

nate

(finally, a trivia question I can answer!)

--
55 Commander Starlight
http://members.cox.net/njnagel

BobPalma
03-13-2007, 06:58 AM
Close, Nate, but they could have painted a 1954 engine Alberta Blue and used a 1954 engine/chassis. After all, the frame isn't a production frame color, either.

There is a BIG indicator that the chassis/driveline pictured is 1955 that has nothing to do with color: We all acknowledge that the photo is of components that have been specially painted for a display unit. [Nate: I'm sure you know what it is; think hard because it is very obvious!] BP

BobPalma
03-13-2007, 06:58 AM
Close, Nate, but they could have painted a 1954 engine Alberta Blue and used a 1954 engine/chassis. After all, the frame isn't a production frame color, either.

There is a BIG indicator that the chassis/driveline pictured is 1955 that has nothing to do with color: We all acknowledge that the photo is of components that have been specially painted for a display unit. [Nate: I'm sure you know what it is; think hard because it is very obvious!] BP

8E45E
03-13-2007, 07:12 AM
[quote]Originally posted by BobPalma

Close, Nate, but they could have painted a 1954 engine Alberta Blue and used a 1954 engine/chassis. After all, the frame isn't a production frame color, either.

There is a BIG indicator that the chassis/driveline pictured is 1955 that has nothing to do with color: We all acknowledge that the photo is of components that have been specially painted for a display unit. [Nate: I'm sure you know what it is; think hard because it is very obvious!] BP

Dual exhaust pipes.

Wasn't '55 the first year for dual exhausts?

Craig.

8E45E
03-13-2007, 07:12 AM
[quote]Originally posted by BobPalma

Close, Nate, but they could have painted a 1954 engine Alberta Blue and used a 1954 engine/chassis. After all, the frame isn't a production frame color, either.

There is a BIG indicator that the chassis/driveline pictured is 1955 that has nothing to do with color: We all acknowledge that the photo is of components that have been specially painted for a display unit. [Nate: I'm sure you know what it is; think hard because it is very obvious!] BP

Dual exhaust pipes.

Wasn't '55 the first year for dual exhausts?

Craig.

Scott
03-13-2007, 07:56 AM
Is it the air cleaners?

Scott
03-13-2007, 07:56 AM
Is it the air cleaners?

tj1852
03-13-2007, 08:14 AM
Fuel pump?

tj1852
03-13-2007, 08:14 AM
Fuel pump?

Pckstude
03-13-2007, 08:54 AM
What would they have most likely done to that chassis after the photo shoot? Some how use in the research dept? Or repaint it and stick it back in the production line? (That seems unlikely to me.)

Pckstude
03-13-2007, 08:54 AM
What would they have most likely done to that chassis after the photo shoot? Some how use in the research dept? Or repaint it and stick it back in the production line? (That seems unlikely to me.)

Transtar60
03-13-2007, 09:01 AM
The upright version of the stromberg carb??

http://racingstudebakers.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10056/5E13%20Pic%203.JPG
3E38
4E2
4E28
5E13
7E7
8E7
8E12
8E28
4E2
59 Lark
etc

Transtar60
03-13-2007, 09:01 AM
The upright version of the stromberg carb??

http://racingstudebakers.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10056/5E13%20Pic%203.JPG
3E38
4E2
4E28
5E13
7E7
8E7
8E12
8E28
4E2
59 Lark
etc

Dwain G.
03-13-2007, 10:22 AM
quote:Originally posted by BobPalma. There is a BIG indicator that the chassis/driveline pictured is 1955 that has nothing to do with color: very obvious! BP

____________________________________
Because the print says '1955'!:D
Really, I had to look at the actual brochure to see any detail at all, and I see several things, but I'll guess are referring to a particular item seen at the far right in the photo.

http://home.comcast.net/~jdwain/63.63.jpg
Dwain G.

Dwain G.
03-13-2007, 10:22 AM
quote:Originally posted by BobPalma. There is a BIG indicator that the chassis/driveline pictured is 1955 that has nothing to do with color: very obvious! BP

____________________________________
Because the print says '1955'!:D
Really, I had to look at the actual brochure to see any detail at all, and I see several things, but I'll guess are referring to a particular item seen at the far right in the photo.

http://home.comcast.net/~jdwain/63.63.jpg
Dwain G.

Roscomacaw
03-13-2007, 10:26 AM
4bbl:D

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle
http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/906179/2006/12/7/truckonhill3.jpg

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

Roscomacaw
03-13-2007, 10:26 AM
4bbl:D

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle
http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/906179/2006/12/7/truckonhill3.jpg

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

gordr
03-13-2007, 10:55 AM
Fuel pump low on timing cover instead of up on the filler stack?

Gord Richmond, within Weasel range of the Alberta Badlands

gordr
03-13-2007, 10:55 AM
Fuel pump low on timing cover instead of up on the filler stack?

Gord Richmond, within Weasel range of the Alberta Badlands

BobPalma
03-13-2007, 11:09 AM
quote:Originally posted by Mr.Biggs

4bbl:D

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle


:D BINGO! :D (Fuel pump position and vertical carb air horn are also valid, but 4-barrel is clearly the big newbie for 1955, and the associated large, oil-bath air cleaner pictured.) [:p] BP

BobPalma
03-13-2007, 11:09 AM
quote:Originally posted by Mr.Biggs

4bbl:D

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle


:D BINGO! :D (Fuel pump position and vertical carb air horn are also valid, but 4-barrel is clearly the big newbie for 1955, and the associated large, oil-bath air cleaner pictured.) [:p] BP

BobPalma
03-13-2007, 11:18 AM
quote:Originally posted by 8E45E
Dual exhaust pipes.

Wasn't '55 the first year for dual exhausts?

Craig.


Craig: That brochure chassis has a single exhaust. I just looked at the same brochure I have here at home, and it is clearly a single-exhaust chassis. Few if any 1955 4-barrel cars were probably built with a single pipe, but this was an early mock-up. The date on this first-series (straight windshield) brochure is 9/54.

;) "Never say never," though; the "New President Wildcat" engine shown elsewhere in the brochure with the President line distinctly has a four-barrel on top and an exhaust cross-over on the bottom! [:0] BP

BobPalma
03-13-2007, 11:18 AM
quote:Originally posted by 8E45E
Dual exhaust pipes.

Wasn't '55 the first year for dual exhausts?

Craig.


Craig: That brochure chassis has a single exhaust. I just looked at the same brochure I have here at home, and it is clearly a single-exhaust chassis. Few if any 1955 4-barrel cars were probably built with a single pipe, but this was an early mock-up. The date on this first-series (straight windshield) brochure is 9/54.

;) "Never say never," though; the "New President Wildcat" engine shown elsewhere in the brochure with the President line distinctly has a four-barrel on top and an exhaust cross-over on the bottom! [:0] BP