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    Two... two... two stories on one!

    Got the strangest phone call this morning from a fellow in Tulsa:

    "Hello."

    "Is this David Lester?"

    "Yes, sir."

    "I need some information about what I think is a '58 Studebaker 2 door
    wagon."

    "That's a little out of my area of expertise, but I know just the guy for
    you to talk to."

    "I read that you are a Studebaker Restoration Expert. Is this that David
    Lester?"

    "Uh, well, yes, I have Studebakers, but I'm certainly no, "restoration
    expert." However, I can help you get in touch with one or more folks that
    can get you just about any information you need, on just about any
    Studebaker."

    "Says in the magazine that you are."

    "Uh, what magazine?"

    "December's copy of Custom Classic Trucks."

    "Really?"

    "Yep, there is a picture of the Studebaker truck you use to advertise your
    parts and restoration business. I figured a guy like you could break down
    the serial number for me, and tell me how many were made."

    About that time (timing always amazes me,) I hear a horn honk just outside
    my Quonset. It's a friend who just got his copy of the magazine, and has
    brought it by to show me. The gentleman is still on the phone....

    "Uh, I see what you are talking about. The truck was at my friend Rick's
    shop last summer. He installed a one piece drive shaft in it. He does a
    lot of custom work, and the magazines like to follow what is going on at his
    shop. I remember him mentioning that a magazine fellow had been by and
    snapped a picture of the truck, but I had forgotten about that. Anyway, let
    me give you the name and phone # of a fellow in Visalia, CA. He can likely
    help you with the information you are seeking on the wagon."

    With that done, I went and purchased a copy of the magazine. Turns out my
    friend Rick is quite a story teller, if not always accurate. <G> I
    wouldn't make a wart on a restoration expert's back side, I have no such
    business, and the truck is a 3/4 ton! On top of that, Rick let the guy take
    the photo in front of a junk pile. FOR SHAME!

    Still a nice surprise. There are a few other Stude trucks scattered
    throughout the publication, so not all is lost. One quote caught my eye," A
    Studebaker truck is one of the less-common brands that attracts a great deal
    of custom-truck builder's attention...."


    --
    Dave Lester
    Dave's Place
    Home of the Internationally Renowned Studebakers, 'Sheba and Goliath
    See pictures at www.davesplaceinc.com





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    Dave's Place
    Studebaker Emporium

  • #2
    So what about the wagon? If it's actually a '58 it must be a Scotsman, but it'd be nice to know more...


    StudeDave

    '54 Commander 4dr
    '57 Parkview (it's a 2dr wagon...)
    '57 Commander 2dr
    '57 Champion 2dr
    '65 Cruiser
    StudeDave '57
    US Navy (retired)

    3rd Generation Stude owner/driver
    SDC Member since 1985

    past President
    Whatcom County Chapter SDC
    San Diego Chapter SDC

    past Vice President
    San Diego Chapter SDC
    North Florida Chapter SDC

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    • #3
      quote:Originally posted by Studedude

      Two... two... two stories on one!
      Great story(s), Dave! You're famous! Gots to run out and pick up that issue.

      -Dick-

      (I'll bet Bob gave him that serial number and production info from memory <g&gt
      Dick Steinkamp
      Bellingham, WA

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      • #4
        quote:Originally posted by StudeDave57

        So what about the wagon? If it's actually a '58 it must be a Scotsman, but it'd be nice to know more...
        I'll have to follow up on it. I have the guy's phone number, but thought I'd let him talk to Mr. B first. He is considering buying it, but hadn't made up his mind when I talked to him.

        Dave's Place
        Studebaker Emporium
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        Dave Lester

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        • #5
          quote:
          Great story(s), Dave! You're famous! Gots to run out and pick up that issue.
          Infamous, maybe.

          It is neat that the article led the guy to call, allowing me to hook him up with knowledge.

          quoteI'll bet Bob gave him that serial number and production info from memory <g&gt.
          I think so! I couldn't stand the suspense, so called Bob. He gave the guy the information, fer sure! [8D]




          Dave's Place
          Studebaker Emporium
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          Dave Lester

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          • #6
            Yeah, the guy was lookin' at a 57 Parkview. He wasn't sure what year it really was because the first digit of the serial# was an 8. He was thinking maybe it was really a '58. I told him that the first digit(s) didn't necessarily denote the year until Studebaker started a whole new numbering system with the debut of the '59 models.

            Miscreant at large.

            1957 Transtar 1/2ton
            1960 Larkvertible V8
            1958 Provincial wagon
            1953 Commander coupe
            1957 President 2-dr
            1955 President State
            1951 Champion Biz cpe
            1963 Daytona project FS
            No deceptive flags to prove I'm patriotic - no biblical BS to impress - just ME and Studebakers - as it should be.

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            • #7
              That's funny. I had just posted a topic about there being 2 magazines with Stude articles in them, then saw your post. I wasn't aware of a Studebaker truck article in Custom Classic Trucks this time, since they plastic wrapped the issue along with a calendar (I didn't want to break it open at Barnes and Noble, just to see what articles were inside). Now, I have to go and buy one!

              By the way, Dave, I need some truck parts...

              1955 1/2 Ton Pickup

              Paul Simpson
              "DilloCrafter"

              1955 1/2 Ton Pickup
              The Red-Headed Amazon
              Deep in the heart of Texas

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              • #8
                quote:By the way, Dave, I need some truck parts...
                Let's see... who should I have you call? [^]

                Dave's Place
                Studebaker Emporium
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                • #9
                  quote:By the way, Dave, I need some truck parts...
                  Let's see... who should I have you call? [^]

                  Dave's Place
                  Studebaker Emporium
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                  Dave Lester

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                  • #10
                    I bought that Custom Classic Trucks magazine issue with Dave's "Goliath" in it. I was pleasantly surprised to see at least four other nicely done Stude trucks in various places throughout that issue, usually small photos [V] from recent car shows (although they said that most of those were chosen as "Custom Classic Truck Top Ten" award winners ). One other goof they made (besides what Dave mentioned above) was to caption a 2R series truck as a 1948 model, but at least that magazine likes Studes enough to show a few shots of them.

                    Other than the few photos, there is nothing in that magazine for Studebaker owners. All the ads and articles are targeted to F*rd and Ch*vy truck folks, since that's the bread and butter for these publishers. One article features a 1948 Chevy truck that has been highly chopped and modified, and only then does it begin to approach the beauty that Bourke designed into the Studebaker 2R trucks, IMHO.

                    1955 1/2 Ton Pickup

                    Paul Simpson
                    "DilloCrafter"

                    1955 1/2 Ton Pickup
                    The Red-Headed Amazon
                    Deep in the heart of Texas

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                    • #11
                      So, who's actually gotten the info on this wagon? Inquiring minds want to know!!!!! [8D]

                      StudeDave

                      '54 Commander 4dr
                      '57 Parkview (it's a 2dr wagon...)
                      '57 Commander 2dr
                      '57 Champion 2dr
                      '65 Cruiser
                      StudeDave '57
                      US Navy (retired)

                      3rd Generation Stude owner/driver
                      SDC Member since 1985

                      past President
                      Whatcom County Chapter SDC
                      San Diego Chapter SDC

                      past Vice President
                      San Diego Chapter SDC
                      North Florida Chapter SDC

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                      • #12
                        I have come across a few 2R trucks that are titled as 1948s. People do this to meet the NSRA requirements. There is an expensive 2R that I am currently in negotiation on that is titled as a 1948. The owner claims that it is an early 1949 model manufactured and sold in 1948 and that is why it is titled as a 1948. The truck's serial number is too high to have been built any time during the 1949 model year. I figure that the truck was manufactured either during the 1950 or 1951 model years. Studebaker did allow these 2Rs to be titled by the year that they were sold. A 1950 manufactured truck could have been sold and titled in 1952, but a truck couldn't have been sold and titled before it was built. Too bad that Studebaker didn't make the R series the way that Bob Bourke designed it and wanted it rather than the 2R. The 2Rs were modern for 1949, but the R is nicer.
                        Gary L.
                        Wappinger, NY

                        SDC member since 1968
                        Studebaker enthusiast much longer

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                        • #13
                          Gary,where could I see a pic of the original R design ? Was it much different than the 2R?
                          Has anyone ever added a blower set-up to a 2R ?
                          Ive got a 259 in mine that would love it.
                          Then Id have a R-2, 2R.

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                          • #14
                            quote:Originally posted by Transtar56

                            Gary,where could I see a pic of the original R design ? Was it much different than the 2R?
                            Has anyone ever added a blower set-up to a 2R ?
                            Ive got a 259 in mine that would love it.
                            Then Id have a R-2, 2R.
                            Robert/Transtar56 - I work from the pictures in my mind's eye, but that doesn't help you <G>. The major difference is that the front fenders flow back into the doors where they taper off. This is why the 2R has that little lump, at the bottom of the doors, to cover the front of the concealed running board. I can't think of any published pictures, but I remember, many years ago, seeing pictures of a prototype R series. The SNM probably has pictures of an R and in Bob Bourke's files there are probably design drawings for the R (also at the SNM). I have discussed the R and 2R with Bob Bourke.
                            Gary L.
                            Wappinger, NY

                            SDC member since 1968
                            Studebaker enthusiast much longer

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                            • #15
                              Studegary said:
                              quote:Too bad that Studebaker didn't make the R series the way that Bob Bourke designed it and wanted it rather than the 2R. The 2Rs were modern for 1949, but the R is nicer....The major difference is that the front fenders flow back into the doors where they taper off. This is why the 2R has that little lump, at the bottom of the doors, to cover the front of the concealed running board. I can't think of any published pictures, but I remember, many years ago, seeing pictures of a prototype R series.
                              This should make you feel good, Studegary. I copied this photo out of your mind's eye.


                              And for quick comparison, here's the closest image I could find to that same angle, although it's an illustration (cover of 1950 brochure):


                              Actually, I remembered having that photo somewhere, was it the Robert Bourke Designs book, no not in there. How about...that's it! The Studebaker Trucks 1941-1964 Photo Archive. For Stude truck fans, this is a great book. Out of print, but can be found occasionally on Amazon or eBay.




                              Paul Simpson
                              "DilloCrafter"

                              1955 1/2 Ton Pickup
                              The Red-Headed Amazon
                              Deep in the heart of Texas

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