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Transtar56
11-20-2005, 10:35 AM
For the few of these originally built they seem to have an uncommomly high survival rate.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/STUDEBAKER-PARTS-OR-PACKARD-PROJECT_W0QQitemZ4592056031

whacker
11-20-2005, 11:05 AM
Only 159 ever built!

Roscomacaw
11-20-2005, 04:51 PM
The 58s were the ones that had only 159 built.:D I used to own #21 (body tag said 21 anyway - engine # was something like L158).

869 '57 Packard wagons found their way out of the plant.;)

I love the 57 - 58 Packards - all of them! [:I]

Miscreant at large.

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President 2-dr
1955 President State
1951 Champion Biz cpe
1963 Daytona project FS

Swifster
11-20-2005, 05:24 PM
If I had a place to put it...:(

Would a Packard 352 fit in that bad boy??? [}:)]

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Tom - Sterling Heights, MI

Ancient Chinese Proverb: "Injection is nice, but I'd rather be blown!"

1964 Studebaker Daytona - Laguna Blue, Original 4-Spd. Car, Power Steering, Disc Brakes, Bucket Seats, Tinted Glass, Climatizer Ventilation System, AM Radio (136,989 Miles)

StudeDave57
11-21-2005, 10:50 PM
I also wish I had the space, and the time, and the money..... :(
I'm sure that when there's a will- there's a way!!! After all, they (BIG Packard V8s) fit in the '56 Golden Hawks, right-- Why wouldn't they fit in a sedan? I've even seen a big-block Chev or two in a Hawk. How cool to have something that different- big Packard motor in a car most don't even know exsisted!!!! [8D]

StudeDave

'54 Commander 4dr
'57 Parkview (it's a 2dr wagon...)
'57 Commander 2dr
'57 Champion 2dr
'65 Cruiser

Swifster
11-22-2005, 08:00 AM
That or a 374 with 2 four barrels as used in the Caribbean? [}:)]:D

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Tom - Sterling Heights, MI

Ancient Chinese Proverb: "Injection is nice, but I'd rather be blown!"

1964 Studebaker Daytona - Laguna Blue, Original 4-Spd. Car, Power Steering, Disc Brakes, Bucket Seats, Tinted Glass, Climatizer Ventilation System, AM Radio (136,989 Miles)

Roscomacaw
11-22-2005, 11:19 AM
Or a Packard Merlin![:p][}:)][:0]:D

Or wait! ..... The ill-fated 1965 Packard V-12!!!

Miscreant at large.

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President 2-dr
1955 President State
1951 Champion Biz cpe
1963 Daytona project FS

raprice
11-22-2005, 12:01 PM
StudeDave57,
You said "where there's a will, there's a way". Actually, where there's a will, there are relatives.
Very little humor.
Actually, that car doesn't look like an impossible restoration. Of course the engine needs a rebuild too. I wonder if the block is good.
Just wondering------
Rog

Transtar56
11-22-2005, 02:56 PM
It does cast a shadow. No doubt in the world a talented person with some loose change could bring her back,and lets face it, if you want one of these your choices are quite limited.
Id love to see someone put her back on the road.

stude freak
11-23-2005, 12:34 AM
What caught my eye was the other studes in the back ground looks like a regular stude car lot. Wish i knew where it was .

KGlowacky
11-23-2005, 04:26 PM
Hamilton Texas is approx. 60 miles west of Waco. I have been there many times and I'm sure if you went to Hamilton everyone and anyone could probally tell you where this car is located. It is a very small farming community.

stude freak
11-23-2005, 09:38 PM
Thx for the info KG

StudeDave57
11-24-2005, 11:41 AM
Someone save this thing! Look at how good they can look when cleaned up a little bit...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=4576269788&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT

Just a thought.

StudeDave

'54 Commander 4dr
'57 Parkview (it's a 2dr wagon...)
'57 Commander 2dr
'57 Champion 2dr
'65 Cruiser

studeclunker
11-29-2005, 06:11 PM
What a wonderful old wagon!![:0]:D There's a really nice '57 Clipper Town Sedan[8D] in a junkyard in Williams Ca. It's raspberry-lavender color[xx(]. Otherwise in really good but rusty shape. Lots and lots of surface rust (the reason that tarping a car is a bad idea). The interior is in great shape with perfect original upholstry. I don't think anyone ever sat in that back seat! The floors are perfect as well. I just wish that the money was available for me... Oh well. I love the '57 Packards, and the '53 to '56 Studes...

Lotsa Larks!
K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
Ron Smith

imported_n/a
11-29-2005, 06:35 PM
I have a 1958 Packard Clipper 2 door, myself. It is nearly complete, but needs total restoration and doesn't run. Have had a 56 GH and a 63 Cruiser 289 in my posession at one time. I have a question for you knowlegeable people--are there enough parts around that fit the 57-8 body AT REASONABLE PRICES so that it is feasible to restore? I am not a Billionaire, BTW. I thought Studes were made for fairly frugal people, but Packards were high-end to begin with and the 57-58's had very low production numbers. Is it possible that initially there were lots of parts made in anticipation of a larger producion run, that are still around? Can I get some input on this? Thanks.

studegary
11-30-2005, 02:30 PM
I believe what you have is a 1958 Packard hardtop (not a Hawk). There were no "Clippers" in 1958. There were 675 hardtops made. I owned one for nine years.

I do not believe that you will find NOS interior or some special exterior pieces. You can have the interior reproduced, but not cheaply. Some Packard items, like the tail lights are readily available. The mechanical, and most body, items are similar to Studebaker and are priced accordingly. The power steering is not like a 1958 Studebaker, but is like a 1957 Studebaker (for example).
"Reasonable prices" will depend on what you need and your definition of reasonable. The body parts will be more reasonable than similar parts for a C/K body Studebaker or Packard.

casey
11-30-2005, 04:58 PM
After watching Ebay listings over the last two years I believe the number of surviving Studebakers in the U.S. is roughly equal to the number of barns in the U.S.

Roscomacaw
11-30-2005, 05:18 PM
58 Packard exterior trim was hard to find in NOS condition in 1979, when I had my '58 Packard wagon. Try and find even a ratty, used hood scoop chrome piece for one now! (Yes, it was a phony hood scoop but all sedans had them)[V]

Miscreant at large.

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President 2-dr
1955 President State
1951 Champion Biz cpe
1963 Daytona project FS

StudeDave57
11-30-2005, 09:39 PM
I almost had a '58 Packard HT! Wish I'da bought it! Have you seen the $$$ the restored ones are going for these days? Not that I'm in it for the money, mind you. I guess it's true what they say- 'Almost only counts with horseshoes, hand-grenades, and thermal-nuclear-weapons'!!! [8D]

StudeDave

'54 Commander 4dr
'57 Parkview (it's a 2dr wagon...)
'57 Commander 2dr
'57 Champion 2dr
'65 Cruiser

imported_n/a
12-01-2005, 12:11 AM
Thanks for the input. I have now begun to get over the Mini-Nervous Breakdown I was almost having the other day over some stuff I coulda used on "Ebay", but couldn't stand the pain enough to keep on bidding! Guess I'll have to take one of those "Home Equity Loan" sharks up on their sales pitches next time they call the house. That way, I can go forward with buying what I need to get the 58 going again. Yes, I was wondering about the power steering system. Suppose I'll have to see if it functions after the engine runs...

bentlee
12-17-2005, 08:21 PM
quote:Originally posted by casey

After watching Ebay listings over the last two years I believe the number of surviving Studebakers in the U.S. is roughly equal to the number of barns in the U.S.


I think this is the best line I've heard in years! [8D] Very Cool.


Brent Lee
61 Hawk

mbstude
12-18-2005, 12:48 PM
The 57 Packard wagon is one of my favorite cars. I'd like to one day own one, as well as a 58 HT. BTW, my grandpa has a 352 sitting in front of the shop. It came out of a 56 Golden Hawk. He has this idea of "maybe" sticking it in one of his pickups, and calling it the "Golden Hauler". But he has SO many ideas and not enough cars. I think he should buy a few more. Wish we had a 57-58 wagon...

Matthew Burnette, the 15 year old Stude nut.
http://jnautoair.com/images/yelstude2.jpg
63 Daytona HT (my car)
57 Silver Hawk
63 GT Hawk
51 Champ Starlight
52 Champ 4-door
49 fire truck
50 wrecker (rusty)
62 Cruiser (project)
56 Champ Sedanette
64 Commander Wagonaire
65 Daytona 2-door
59 Scotsman P/U (2 of em)
56 Sky Hawk (project)
47 M5 (rusty)
55 P/U (with a V8)
56 Power Hawk (project) 81 Avanti II
And a few parts cars
http://community.webshots.com/user/mbstude101