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Kdancy
08-24-2005, 08:55 AM
I need a good side shot of a 1953-54 Hdtp or coupe for a "wheels" program. Does anyone have one I can get off the net or e-mail?
Thanks---

53commander HDTP
53 Champion HDTP
61 Cursed Purple Hawk
64 Champ long bed V8
64 GT

N8N
08-24-2005, 05:56 PM
here's my '55

http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel/images/55coupe/2005_04_09_0066.JPG

(there's more on my web site but that is the only good side shot I remember)

for scaling purposes, those are 14" wheels, just so you know. I have 15" wires on it right now and they look much more "right" on the car even though I don't particularly like wire wheels.

also try

http://hem.bredband.net/b284654/

he's got lots of pics there

good luck (and send us a link, if you get a Stude used for any program, wouldn't mind seeing my car with Halibrands for example!)

nate

--
55 Commander Starlight
62 Daytona hardtop
http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel

JDP
08-24-2005, 07:37 PM
here's a few of some of my old ones


http://stude.com/sold/54-3.jpg
http://stude.com/sold/53a.jpg
http://stude.com/sold/53g.jpg
http://www.stude.com/54/A4.jpg

Studebaker On The Net http://stude.com
64 R2 4 speed Challenger (Plain Wrapper)
63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk

Kdancy
08-25-2005, 06:08 AM
Thanks guys, Nate-- I took a look at your 55 and the side shot is too dark to work well for that program, to bad! The other site I had already looked at and the factory photo's are too "grainy" to use. I think a side shot on a parking lot or road, even a drag strip, with good lighting so you can see the side profile real well, would work as you would be able to see the effects different wheels would have on the body style. I'll keep looking.

53commander HDTP
53 Champion HDTP
61 Cursed Purple Hawk
64 Champ long bed V8
64 GT

dclewallen
08-25-2005, 03:35 PM
Where do I find this "wheels program"? I searched the web awhile back and conldn't find anything. Thanks

Darryl C. Lewallen

Studedude
08-25-2005, 09:33 PM
quote:I'll keep looking.

Maybe this will help?

http://members.provalue.net/studes/images/aft3.jpg

Dave's Place
Studebaker Emporium
www.davesplaceinc.com

Kdancy
08-26-2005, 04:48 AM
Studedude, that's a lot closer but still too dark. The program is one that newstalgiawheel.com has on their site. I e-mailed them and ask for them to add a 53 to the site but they need a good side shot picture that the program can use. Any one interested may touch base with them so we can get more Studes on that wheels program.

53commander HDTP
53 Champion HDTP
61 Cursed Purple Hawk
64 Champ long bed V8
64 GT

N8N
08-26-2005, 04:59 AM
Ummm... Dave, you don't need new wheels!

nate

(well, actually you do. But I know this guy that would be willing to take the old ones off your hands...)

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55 Commander Starlight
62 Daytona hardtop
http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel

Studedude
08-26-2005, 01:19 PM
quote:Originally posted by N8N

Ummm... Dave, you don't need new wheels!

nate

(well, actually you do. But I know this guy that would be willing to take the old ones off your hands...)

Let's get this wheel program up and going. We'll have a "Select Sheba's new wheels" contest, and the old wheels will be available for you.

Dave's Place
Studebaker Emporium
www.davesplaceinc.com

N8N
08-26-2005, 04:21 PM
I can tell you right now if you don't like your current wheels my vote would be a set of Halibrand "kidney beans" with painted centers (not fully polished.) Someone had a set of the new American Racing copies of those on a GT Hawk at South Bend, I think he told me they were 7" wide and I believe it as they barely fit under the fenders. They looked awesome, he had the Halibrand spinners on them and it was a silver car (with silver-grey painted wheel centers.)

'course THOSE would look great on my car too :)

I guess I just must be showing my age, as when I first started to become aware that some cars were indeed cooler than others (early-mid 1980s,) those deep-dish BBS-style rims were on all the hot German cars of the era, and I've liked the look ever since. Esp. with the "mesh" of the wheels painted black and the rims polished, on a black car. Mmmm, eeeeevil. Nothing like a monochromatic, shiny black ride with those big ol' wide polished rims barely contained in the fenders.

nate

(can't hardly wait to get some quality Stude time tomorrow)

--
55 Commander Starlight
62 Daytona hardtop
http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel

Michael
08-26-2005, 05:39 PM
Here is a picture of my 1953 Starlight

http://hem.bredband.net/b284654/53starlight.jpg

Michael

Michael's Studebaker Pics Page
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http://hem.bredband.net/b284654/

52hawk
08-26-2005, 06:19 PM
Nice car Michael!!! But those damn Cragars are like stink on sh_ _
Every camaro and every tri 5 Chevy has a set of Cragars .[maybe cause they do look so good!]

Hawks,Larks,and other critters!

Studedude
08-26-2005, 06:31 PM
quote:Originally posted by N8N

I can tell you right now if you don't like your current wheels my vote would be a set of Halibrand "kidney beans" with painted centers (not fully polished.)

I think I know the wheels you are talking about. They are OK, and I know folks are falling all over each other to get them. I suppose it offers a rather "retro" look, and I like that look... except I don't knock myself out trying to do what others are knocking themselves out to do.

I want my car (and wheels) to be be different, but compliment each other. Frankly, if I had a set of wheels that were noticed more than the car, I would get rid of them.;)

I didn't build the car from the ground up to have it play second fiddle to a set of wheels that can be purchased off of the shelf. [:0]

But, that's just me. [^]

Dave's Place
Studebaker Emporium
www.davesplaceinc.com

Studedude
08-26-2005, 06:45 PM
quote:(can't hardly wait to get some quality Stude time tomorrow)


Boy, do I know what you mean! The job has been keeping me busier than a cat with diarrhea. Spring-like storms in August, 2-3 a week! Meetings, out of town conferences, work shops, etc. I need to go back into retirement, but the extra money is nice, and I have found myself buying into the program, and starting to care. [B)]

I have become quite frustrated, because I have not had time to work on the '62.

I got home from a three day conference yesterday, and planned to go to the local cruise night. I went, along with my socket set, some Scotch-bright, masking tape and paper, and a rattle can of semi flat black paint.

Right there at the Sonic, I removed the grille, suffed the existing paint behind it, masked it off, shot it, and put the grille back in. Get off my back, JP! :D

One thing down, a few more to go. I have told the City Manager that I WILL either be taking some time off, or resigning soon.;)

Dave's Place
Studebaker Emporium
www.davesplaceinc.com

Studedude
08-26-2005, 06:48 PM
quote:Originally posted by 52hawk

Nice car Michael!!! But those damn Cragars are like stink on sh_ _
Every camaro and every tri 5 Chevy has a set of Cragars .[maybe cause they do look so good!]

I agree. No offense to Michael! My car had those wheels on them when I bought it, and I couldn't wait to get rid of them. They are beautiful! But, common. [V]

Dave's Place
Studebaker Emporium
www.davesplaceinc.com

N8N
08-26-2005, 06:55 PM
quote:Originally posted by Studedude

I want my car (and wheels) to be be different, but compliment each other. Frankly, if I had a set of wheels that were noticed more than the car, I would get rid of them.;)

I didn't build the car from the ground up to have it play second fiddle to a set of wheels that can be purchased off of the shelf. [:0]

But, that's just me. [^]


I hear that. That's why I spent all that time tracking down a set of vintage Ansen Sprints that would fit a Stude.

Guess what American Racing is repopping now :/

nate

--
55 Commander Starlight
62 Daytona hardtop
http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel

N8N
08-26-2005, 06:56 PM
Now that we're on the subject of wheels, does anyone have a recent vintage Crown Vic? I've been seeing a lot lately that have a 16" wheel that looks a lot like the ones on Dave's car and they look like they might just fit a Stude without spacers/adapters. Would be interested to get a confirmation on fitment.

nate

--
55 Commander Starlight
62 Daytona hardtop
http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel

Sam Roberts
08-26-2005, 07:29 PM
Nate,

I do not think they will. I have a 1999 CV, and the back spacing is waaaaaaaaaay off! BTDT. You could get by on the rear maybe, but no way up front without some sort of spacers.


quote:Originally posted by N8N

Now that we're on the subject of wheels, does anyone have a recent vintage Crown Vic? I've been seeing a lot lately that have a 16" wheel that looks a lot like the ones on Dave's car and they look like they might just fit a Stude without spacers/adapters. Would be interested to get a confirmation on fitment.

nate

--
55 Commander Starlight
62 Daytona hardtop
http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel


Sam Roberts

I'm a slow loser, but a fast learner

thom
08-26-2005, 09:21 PM
Hey N8N , your black 55 looks good . Michael , your gray & black coupe looks good too . I'll be happy if mine looks as good as these two . I'd like to see more of both these cars , please . Thanks :D

thom

Kdancy
08-26-2005, 09:34 PM
quote:Originally posted by Michael

Here is a picture of my 1953 Starlight

http://hem.bredband.net/b284654/53starlight.jpg

Michael

Michael's Studebaker Pics Page
--------------------------------
http://hem.bredband.net/b284654/

I sent them your shot.


53commander HDTP
53 Champion HDTP
61 Cursed Purple Hawk
64 Champ long bed V8
64 GT

N8N
08-27-2005, 05:49 AM
quote:Originally posted by Sam Roberts

Nate,

I do not think they will. I have a 1999 CV, and the back spacing is waaaaaaaaaay off! BTDT. You could get by on the rear maybe, but no way up front without some sort of spacers.


quote:Originally posted by N8N

Now that we're on the subject of wheels, does anyone have a recent vintage Crown Vic? I've been seeing a lot lately that have a 16" wheel that looks a lot like the ones on Dave's car and they look like they might just fit a Stude without spacers/adapters. Would be interested to get a confirmation on fitment.

nate

--
55 Commander Starlight
62 Daytona hardtop
http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel


Sam Roberts

I'm a slow loser, but a fast learner


any chance you could look and see what the offset is? should be stamped on the wheel somewhere, as "ETxx" where xx is the offset in millimeters. usually just under the center cap.

I did a quick web search since this thread piqued my curiosity and couldn't find specs on the wheels other than that they're 16x7. Also there were some 15" ones available for older crown vics.

nate

--
55 Commander Starlight
62 Daytona hardtop
http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel

Michael
08-27-2005, 05:51 AM
My 1953 had the Cragars on when I found it.
It don't really like them either but until
I can afford something better I guess they'll stay on.
I have recently found stock rims and tri-star covers
and I might put them on in the future if I can't
find anything better.

The Cragars are the only non Studebaker item
on the car. The rest is a mix, 1957 289 4-barrell,
3speed-od floor shift, Hawk dashboard, converted to
12 volt and so on. Due to the floor shifter I'm
looking for GT Hawk seats to put in.

The car was all black when new, and the gray/green
is just primer that the previos owner sprayed to
prepare it for a new paintjob. I kind fo like the
primer but I might give it a new paintjob within
a few years time. I'm not sure though what color.
I'm thinking maybe Chippewa green or the stock black.

Thom, I can email a few photos to you if you want...

Michael

-'53 Starlight
-'53 Starliner

Michael's Studebaker Pics Page
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http://hem.bredband.net/b284654/

N8N
08-27-2005, 06:05 AM
maybe it's just me, but I think the primer actually looks kind of cool.

nate

--
55 Commander Starlight
62 Daytona hardtop
http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel

Transtar56
08-27-2005, 06:57 AM
No,like the Rolling Stones sat"Paint it black" Paint'em all black,I love black.
I have three black Studes and one black Harley and I say"paint it BlacK"
Im just getting tuned up for the Stones concert were going to next weekend.85000 people,kinda scares the sh&t out of me,I ain't never been to anything like that.
But I want to see the Stones.

N8N
08-27-2005, 07:12 AM
Heh I mostly agree with you...

oddly enough that used to be my ex-GF's vanity plate, before she got "mature" and bought a boring sedan.

I currently own three cars and two of them are all black.

Not to mention that it's a great song... I know a guy who is in a band (explaning the connection would take too long) that does a thrash metal version of it that is awesome... (if you can take a song and redo it in another genre and it still sounds good, it's a good song)

...but I still like primer!

how about black primer? :)

nate

--
55 Commander Starlight
62 Daytona hardtop
http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel

Sam Roberts
08-27-2005, 07:41 AM
Actually Nate, I have tried rims off of a 1989 CV ( mag style ) on the Cruiser, as well as the rims off the 1999 CV, ( steel wheels ) they are the same offset AFAICT! Next time you see a Panther ( Police Interceptor ) with the small cap on them, give them an eyeball, and you will see what I am talking about. The offset is the same for the mag style, and the steel wheels that are on Panthers.

Chrysler rims from the 1970s should work, and they had some decent factory style mags.

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any chance you could look and see what the offset is? should be stamped on the wheel somewhere, as "ETxx" where xx is the offset in millimeters. usually just under the center cap.

I did a quick web search since this thread piqued my curiosity and couldn't find specs on the wheels other than that they're 16x7. Also there were some 15" ones available for older crown vics.

nate

--
55 Commander Starlight
62 Daytona hardtop
http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel
[/quote]

Sam Roberts

I'm a slow loser, but a fast learner

Michael
08-27-2005, 09:42 AM
The primer finish has really grown on me, so that's
why I have kept it that way. Black primer is
not a bad idea. I remember seeing a picture of
a 55 coupe in black primer. The photo was shot
at Bonneville and the car looked fantastic.

Michael

-'53 Starlight
-'53 Starliner

Michael's Studebaker Pics Page
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http://hem.bredband.net/b284654/