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Joe S.
03-09-2007, 12:05 PM
Hello!
I am brand new to this forum so please forgive the following questions, but inquiring minds would like to know!

I have recently inherited my great-grandparents 53 studebaker commander. It has 4 doors and the only commanders I can find on the internet refer to 2 doors. It is in great shape, no rust, has all the chrome. It will need an overhaul before it is road ready, but is in great original shape. What would be the value of this car? It has been parked since 1968 with only 55000 miles.

Thanks for any and all info you might have.

Joe S.

StudeRich
03-09-2007, 12:42 PM
Hi Joe; welcome to the Studebaker Drivers' Club! We hope you will use the "quick sign-up" "sticky" at the top of the page to join us.
I am sure you would enjoy fixing and driving this car and we can help!

If you want to see pic's of one and get an idea of the values, here is a start. But remember Condition, condition, condition ! That's what makes ALL the difference in the world!
try this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/53-studebaker-commander-great-condition_W0QQitemZ230100035926QQcategoryZ6466QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

or this, it's a Champion "6" but basically the same:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1953-Studebaker-Champion-4dr_W0QQitemZ180091566551QQcategoryZ6466QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


And get those $$$ out of your eyes!!! LOL:D:D It is not the highly desirable Sport Coupe or Hardtop (C or K model), or even a 2dr. sedan. So it has a limited desirability factor. But that is not to say based on it's condition that it does not have a fair value, a 1953 Collector car will always have an increasing value! [^]

StudeRich
Studebakers Northwest
Ferndale, WA

StudeRich
03-09-2007, 12:42 PM
Hi Joe; welcome to the Studebaker Drivers' Club! We hope you will use the "quick sign-up" "sticky" at the top of the page to join us.
I am sure you would enjoy fixing and driving this car and we can help!

If you want to see pic's of one and get an idea of the values, here is a start. But remember Condition, condition, condition ! That's what makes ALL the difference in the world!
try this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/53-studebaker-commander-great-condition_W0QQitemZ230100035926QQcategoryZ6466QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

or this, it's a Champion "6" but basically the same:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1953-Studebaker-Champion-4dr_W0QQitemZ180091566551QQcategoryZ6466QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


And get those $$$ out of your eyes!!! LOL:D:D It is not the highly desirable Sport Coupe or Hardtop (C or K model), or even a 2dr. sedan. So it has a limited desirability factor. But that is not to say based on it's condition that it does not have a fair value, a 1953 Collector car will always have an increasing value! [^]

StudeRich
Studebakers Northwest
Ferndale, WA

studeclunker
03-09-2007, 12:58 PM
Sounds like a really nice car, to me.[8D] But I'm notoriously biased to the '53s.:D[:o)] Think you could post a picture? Have you ever considered keeping it? The car would make a good hobby, and is a connection to your Great Grandparents. Do you have any children? The car could be a fun project for them to get involved with as well.

Also a thing to look at, with your car. In the first link (kindly supplied by Rich), note carefully, the emblem on the nose of the hood. The V with the gold coloured 8? Some of the '53s had simply a tristar emblem in that place. This is unique to the '53s because Mercedes objected to it. Dummies like me, really like that. Those cars are referred to as 'Tristars'. Probably doesn't add any value, just a descriptive thing some people look for.

But, pictures, please!:D

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b18/Studeclunker/studebaby/54wagonblue-2.jpg http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b18/Studeclunker/56%20Parkview%20Wagon/56wagonleftfrontclipped-1.jpg
Lotsa Larks!
K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
Ron Smith
Where the heck is Lewiston, CA?

studeclunker
03-09-2007, 12:58 PM
Sounds like a really nice car, to me.[8D] But I'm notoriously biased to the '53s.:D[:o)] Think you could post a picture? Have you ever considered keeping it? The car would make a good hobby, and is a connection to your Great Grandparents. Do you have any children? The car could be a fun project for them to get involved with as well.

Also a thing to look at, with your car. In the first link (kindly supplied by Rich), note carefully, the emblem on the nose of the hood. The V with the gold coloured 8? Some of the '53s had simply a tristar emblem in that place. This is unique to the '53s because Mercedes objected to it. Dummies like me, really like that. Those cars are referred to as 'Tristars'. Probably doesn't add any value, just a descriptive thing some people look for.

But, pictures, please!:D

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b18/Studeclunker/studebaby/54wagonblue-2.jpg http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b18/Studeclunker/56%20Parkview%20Wagon/56wagonleftfrontclipped-1.jpg
Lotsa Larks!
K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
Ron Smith
Where the heck is Lewiston, CA?

Roscomacaw
03-09-2007, 01:21 PM
Simply a tristar???

http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/906179/2007/3/7/1953Comm_Deluxe_barnfresh_02.JPG

Champions had an "S" where that gold 8 is.;)

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle
http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/906179/2006/12/7/truckonhill3.jpg

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

Roscomacaw
03-09-2007, 01:21 PM
Simply a tristar???

http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/906179/2007/3/7/1953Comm_Deluxe_barnfresh_02.JPG

Champions had an "S" where that gold 8 is.;)

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle
http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/906179/2006/12/7/truckonhill3.jpg

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

Joe S.
03-09-2007, 02:57 PM
Hey guys, thanks for the warm welcome! I plan on keeping the old gal! It has a tremendous amount of sentimental value. This is my first Stude and I am anxious to start sometime in the next couple of years. I need to get the old gal out of the old shop at my grandparents. It is starting to fall apart and I would like to keep the girl in one piece and in decent shape.

I would like to try and upload a pic of the old girl. How do i do that?
Joe

Joe S.
03-09-2007, 02:57 PM
Hey guys, thanks for the warm welcome! I plan on keeping the old gal! It has a tremendous amount of sentimental value. This is my first Stude and I am anxious to start sometime in the next couple of years. I need to get the old gal out of the old shop at my grandparents. It is starting to fall apart and I would like to keep the girl in one piece and in decent shape.

I would like to try and upload a pic of the old girl. How do i do that?
Joe

Joe S.
03-09-2007, 03:01 PM
I have the same front on my Stude, Mr. Biggs.

Joe

Joe S.
03-09-2007, 03:01 PM
I have the same front on my Stude, Mr. Biggs.

Joe

StudeRich
03-09-2007, 03:50 PM
That Tri-Star makes it an EARLY 1953 model...cool!
Rich.


quote:Originally posted by Joe S.

I have the same front on my Stude, Mr. Biggs.
Joe

StudeRich
Studebakers Northwest
Ferndale, WA

StudeRich
03-09-2007, 03:50 PM
That Tri-Star makes it an EARLY 1953 model...cool!
Rich.


quote:Originally posted by Joe S.

I have the same front on my Stude, Mr. Biggs.
Joe

StudeRich
Studebakers Northwest
Ferndale, WA

raprice
03-09-2007, 04:59 PM
Joe,
What a great opportunity for you to have a great Studebaker that's actually part of your family. Most of us can't claim that.
Best of luck with the car. Since it's very low milage and in good shape, it should be relatively easy to get on the road.
ENJOY!!!!
Rog

'59 Lark VI Regal Hardtop

raprice
03-09-2007, 04:59 PM
Joe,
What a great opportunity for you to have a great Studebaker that's actually part of your family. Most of us can't claim that.
Best of luck with the car. Since it's very low milage and in good shape, it should be relatively easy to get on the road.
ENJOY!!!!
Rog

'59 Lark VI Regal Hardtop

bob40
03-09-2007, 05:09 PM
Joe,if you check in the general studebaker discussion page...probably the page you used to start this post,there is a "sticky" on how to post a picture near the top of the page.Read that and give it a try.Looking forward to seeing them!

bob40
03-09-2007, 05:09 PM
Joe,if you check in the general studebaker discussion page...probably the page you used to start this post,there is a "sticky" on how to post a picture near the top of the page.Read that and give it a try.Looking forward to seeing them!

studegary
03-10-2007, 12:08 AM
quote:Originally posted by StudeRich

That Tri-Star makes it an EARLY 1953 model...cool!
Rich.




Most all South Bend 1953 models had the tri-star (late in the model year change) and, I believe, all Vernon, CA 1953 models had the tri-star.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

1959 DeLuxe pickup (restomod)

studegary
03-10-2007, 12:08 AM
quote:Originally posted by StudeRich

That Tri-Star makes it an EARLY 1953 model...cool!
Rich.




Most all South Bend 1953 models had the tri-star (late in the model year change) and, I believe, all Vernon, CA 1953 models had the tri-star.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

1959 DeLuxe pickup (restomod)

studeclunker
03-10-2007, 12:45 AM
That's a really nice old tristar, Mr. Biggs! Filthy, I'm afraid, but nice...

Joe, if your grandparents were the original owners of the car, you have a chance to be a part of one of our special groups. The original owners club. Since it's a direct transfer to you, that now makes you (by association) an original owner too!:D
Looking forward to those pictures![:p]:D

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b18/Studeclunker/studebaby/54wagonblue-2.jpg http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b18/Studeclunker/56%20Parkview%20Wagon/56wagonleftfrontclipped-1.jpg
Lotsa Larks!
K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
Ron Smith
Where the heck is Lewiston, CA?

studeclunker
03-10-2007, 12:45 AM
That's a really nice old tristar, Mr. Biggs! Filthy, I'm afraid, but nice...

Joe, if your grandparents were the original owners of the car, you have a chance to be a part of one of our special groups. The original owners club. Since it's a direct transfer to you, that now makes you (by association) an original owner too!:D
Looking forward to those pictures![:p]:D

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b18/Studeclunker/studebaby/54wagonblue-2.jpg http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b18/Studeclunker/56%20Parkview%20Wagon/56wagonleftfrontclipped-1.jpg
Lotsa Larks!
K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
Ron Smith
Where the heck is Lewiston, CA?

Joe S.
03-10-2007, 07:38 AM
:DCool! I never considered myself an original owner, but the logic is there! My Great-Grandfather purchased the car brand new. Then it went to my grandparents then me! When my GGpa bought it, he went down to Montgomery Ward and bought seat covers. The original fabric is still there under the covers and appears in good shape. I am sure it is pretty dry rotted, though.

still working on those pics. They aren't the best, but are a start.

Joe

Joe S.
03-10-2007, 07:38 AM
:DCool! I never considered myself an original owner, but the logic is there! My Great-Grandfather purchased the car brand new. Then it went to my grandparents then me! When my GGpa bought it, he went down to Montgomery Ward and bought seat covers. The original fabric is still there under the covers and appears in good shape. I am sure it is pretty dry rotted, though.

still working on those pics. They aren't the best, but are a start.

Joe

Joe S.
03-10-2007, 07:54 AM
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u226/stclair61194/frontofcar.jpg

Joe S.
03-10-2007, 07:54 AM
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u226/stclair61194/frontofcar.jpg

Joe S.
03-10-2007, 07:58 AM
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u226/stclair61194/guages.jpg

Joe S.
03-10-2007, 07:58 AM
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u226/stclair61194/guages.jpg

Joe S.
03-10-2007, 07:59 AM
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u226/stclair61194/steeringwheel.jpg

That is all I have for now! Let me know what you think! I guess the mileage is closer to 60000.

Joe

Joe S.
03-10-2007, 07:59 AM
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u226/stclair61194/steeringwheel.jpg

That is all I have for now! Let me know what you think! I guess the mileage is closer to 60000.

Joe

Joe S.
03-10-2007, 08:02 AM
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u226/stclair61194/doorjamb.jpg
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u226/stclair61194/Driversside.jpg

These are really all I have. I do know the car was made at South Bend. This is what is on the door jamb plate on the old gal.
Joe

Joe S.
03-10-2007, 08:02 AM
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u226/stclair61194/doorjamb.jpg
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u226/stclair61194/Driversside.jpg

These are really all I have. I do know the car was made at South Bend. This is what is on the door jamb plate on the old gal.
Joe

Roscomacaw
03-10-2007, 09:12 AM
Joe, that's gonna clean up to be one NICE car!

To your statement about it being built in South Bend - it would say that on the serial# plate even if it HAD been built in Los Angeles. The only way to know for sure is the serial# itself.;)

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle
http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/906179/2006/12/7/truckonhill3.jpg

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

Roscomacaw
03-10-2007, 09:12 AM
Joe, that's gonna clean up to be one NICE car!

To your statement about it being built in South Bend - it would say that on the serial# plate even if it HAD been built in Los Angeles. The only way to know for sure is the serial# itself.;)

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle
http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/906179/2006/12/7/truckonhill3.jpg

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

Joe S.
03-10-2007, 11:21 AM
Thanks for the thumbs up! I am really excited about bringing the old girl home and working on her!

Thanks for the information on the serial number. I have no idea about where it was built. The VIN is: V208076. Is there any type of VIN decoder on the net? Can anyone reading this thread decode this sucker?

Again, much abliged!

Joe[8D]

Joe S.
03-10-2007, 11:21 AM
Thanks for the thumbs up! I am really excited about bringing the old girl home and working on her!

Thanks for the information on the serial number. I have no idea about where it was built. The VIN is: V208076. Is there any type of VIN decoder on the net? Can anyone reading this thread decode this sucker?

Again, much abliged!

Joe[8D]

avantilover
03-10-2007, 05:01 PM
Joe, there are several folks on the forum who will be able to supply the VIN details, they should reply within a couple of days.

I agree with Mr Biggs, it looks nice thanks to being inside the shed. After you give it a wash, the most important issues are to clean out the fuel system, probably replacing the fuel lines and getting the tank "boiled out" and sealed to remove any muck that's in it, then renew the brake system also probably replacing the brake lines, and flush the engine and radiator to remove all accumulated gunk, also get the electrics checked just in case.

Once all that is done and a thorough service is performed you should be OK. I know it sounds a lot of work but - it is - after all - a 52 year old car and fuel; brakes; and electrics are very important to have right.

Best of luck and I trust you'll derive a lot of enjoyment from driving what is fairly uncommon compared to other old cars you'll see on the road.

You'll get more Smiles per Miles with a Studebaker!!!

John Clements
Avantilover, your South Australian Studebaker lover!!!
Lockleys South Australia

avantilover
03-10-2007, 05:01 PM
Joe, there are several folks on the forum who will be able to supply the VIN details, they should reply within a couple of days.

I agree with Mr Biggs, it looks nice thanks to being inside the shed. After you give it a wash, the most important issues are to clean out the fuel system, probably replacing the fuel lines and getting the tank "boiled out" and sealed to remove any muck that's in it, then renew the brake system also probably replacing the brake lines, and flush the engine and radiator to remove all accumulated gunk, also get the electrics checked just in case.

Once all that is done and a thorough service is performed you should be OK. I know it sounds a lot of work but - it is - after all - a 52 year old car and fuel; brakes; and electrics are very important to have right.

Best of luck and I trust you'll derive a lot of enjoyment from driving what is fairly uncommon compared to other old cars you'll see on the road.

You'll get more Smiles per Miles with a Studebaker!!!

John Clements
Avantilover, your South Australian Studebaker lover!!!
Lockleys South Australia

Roscomacaw
03-10-2007, 06:47 PM
There's not much to "decode" to those numbers, Joe. first off, that's the engine number and not the serial (or what you might call "VIN" number.
V208076 means it was the the 1,075 V8 engine built in 1953. The first V8 for that year was number V207001

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back when.....cars were registered by the engine number. Why? Good question. Seems dumb today! Plus, sometimes you hafta do the Soupy Shuffle to get the DMV to buy into the engine number being used.
The car's serial number's on a little plate on the driver's side door jamb. The MOST it can tell you is that it's a Commander (has a V8) and which of 3 plants it was assembled at.
More telling info is found on the body tag which is next to the pass. side hood hinge. More, but not much by madern VIN number standards.
If you REALLY want all the "skinny" on your car, send the serial# along with $45 bucks to the Studebaker museum. They'll give you a copy of YOUR car's personal production order.;)

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle
http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/906179/2006/12/7/truckonhill3.jpg

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

Roscomacaw
03-10-2007, 06:47 PM
There's not much to "decode" to those numbers, Joe. first off, that's the engine number and not the serial (or what you might call "VIN" number.
V208076 means it was the the 1,075 V8 engine built in 1953. The first V8 for that year was number V207001

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back when.....cars were registered by the engine number. Why? Good question. Seems dumb today! Plus, sometimes you hafta do the Soupy Shuffle to get the DMV to buy into the engine number being used.
The car's serial number's on a little plate on the driver's side door jamb. The MOST it can tell you is that it's a Commander (has a V8) and which of 3 plants it was assembled at.
More telling info is found on the body tag which is next to the pass. side hood hinge. More, but not much by madern VIN number standards.
If you REALLY want all the "skinny" on your car, send the serial# along with $45 bucks to the Studebaker museum. They'll give you a copy of YOUR car's personal production order.;)

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle
http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/906179/2006/12/7/truckonhill3.jpg

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

Joe S.
03-10-2007, 07:08 PM
Thanks for the info! I am still a ways out when it comes to unearthing the old girl, but I just can't wait! I haven't, in my life time, ever seen it out in the open. It has always been the old car in the shop! I remember being the only grandkid that was interested in the old girl. No one else seemed to have any interest what so ever.

Joe

Joe S.
03-10-2007, 07:08 PM
Thanks for the info! I am still a ways out when it comes to unearthing the old girl, but I just can't wait! I haven't, in my life time, ever seen it out in the open. It has always been the old car in the shop! I remember being the only grandkid that was interested in the old girl. No one else seemed to have any interest what so ever.

Joe

Ron Hansen
04-27-2011, 02:43 PM
Hi Joe,
I just joined this site and saw your 53 Studebaker 4dr. If you think you might want to sell it, I would be very interested buying it. I owned a 2dr many years ago and always wanted to restore a 4dr. There is one online for sale but it is not as nice as yours. As much as I enjoy working on cars I would much rather start out with one that is less work to resurrect. I would keep it stock and true to the original colors and options. I don't like hot rods and some of the custom builds people are doing. I am a machinist by trade and a true perfectionist so you could rest comfortably knowing it would be in good hands. I would also be glad to send you photos and information as the project progresses. Please write back and let me know as this other car may not last long.

Thanks for your time and help, Ron and the Family

Pat Dilling
04-27-2011, 03:54 PM
Ron,

Welcome to the forum. Just posting up to point out to you that this ia an old message started more than 4 years ago.