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gecoe
06-12-2005, 12:57 AM
A couple of years ago, while working in Ohio, I found a 50 Champion in Kentucky and fell victim to the Stude spell. My plans at the time were to fix it up a bit and drive it back to Colorado with my grandson when the job ended. The job extended significantly so, through the wisdom and guideance of several here I was able to get tne care running well. Unfortunately, when the job did end my grandson was in school so I stored the Stude in Ohio last Sept and flew home.

Now, the sun, moon, stars and everything else except gas prices :( have positioned themselves just right for our trip. On 6/14 my 11 year old grandson and I will fly to Ohio to wake up the Stude and get started. Our trip is only generally planned, we've no taste for the interstates and we're in no hurry. We do know that our first planned stop is at the Studebaker Museum in South Bend. After that we're thinking of wandering throuth IL, MN, WS, SD and Wy to see and do whatever takes our fancy. All suggestions are welcome!

Over time I've agreed to keep many of the Stude people informed when this finally came down. I will do it here as opportunity permits. Thanks to everyone whose help made this all possible.

Gerry

Sonny
06-12-2005, 01:40 AM
That's great news gecoe! I'm jealous! [:p] As for suggestions, it looks like you have the best plan in the world, how can a fella improve on that? ;) I suggest that you do as you plan, just take your time and enjoy! Please do keep us up to date, when you can. You can bet that I'll be waitng to hear every detail. Good luck, God speed.

Sonny
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DEEPNHOCK
06-12-2005, 06:35 AM
Sounds like a fun trip...
(You have had the car prepped for a long trip, right?)
Brakes, wheel bearings, generator, water pump, etc...)

Since you are going to South Bend, I would strongly suggest a stop at Auburn, Indiana and go see two museums (on the same property)..
The ACD (Auburn/Cord/Deusenburg) museum is a world class museum that will take your breath away.

http://www.acdmuseum.org/

And right behind it is the musty National American Truck Museum

http://www.natmus.com/

It, too, is a neat museum. Auburn is about 65 miles east of South Bend, but is just a slight deviation heading to South Bend...
Well worth the stop.....
Jeff[8D]









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Roscomacaw
06-12-2005, 08:56 AM
Gerry,

I hope your journey turns out to be as much fun as we've speculated over the past couple years. I'm gonna confess, right up front, that I'm envious, Gerry![:I]
I've sold Gerry numerous parts over the past couple years and helped as much as I could when he had questions of a technical or performance nature about his Champion. At one point I retrieved a crossmember from a Fresno wrecking yard to make Gerry's Champion a bit better car. While I've never seen his car firsthand, I'm betting it's really in FINE shape for the trip, given the many points and details we've discussed over time!;)
As much as today's impatient traffic will allow - this two-lane, generally western-pointed wandering should be a great bonding between you and the grandson, Gerry. Please come here and share some tidbits of the trek when you get a chance. And how about a picture of the two of you with the Champion[?] Get it to me and I'll see that we get to view it. Have a great trip, eh?:D

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1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President 2-dr
1955 President State
1951 Champion Biz cpe
1963 Daytona project FS

gecoe
06-12-2005, 09:15 AM
Thanks for the well wishes and suggestions for additional stops.

With one exception the car is as prepared as I know how to make it. On the way to the storage garage last Sept. the OD wouldn't engage although I had it working well previously. I had no time to check it out then but suspect (hope) it's nothing major. I'll have to tackle that problem before we leave.

Mr. Biggs, you've been a tremendous help in the past and are coming through again. I've been trying to figure out how I could post a picture or two so I'll take you up on your offer.

Gerry

Roscomacaw
06-12-2005, 09:43 AM
Gerry, I'm sending you my cellphone #. I'll be your "hotline" if you need help along the way. Maybe some folks along your general route from Ohio to Colorado will throw in if it turns out you need a hand (or maybe a Stude-friendly iced tea stop along the way!;))at some point.
We helped Justin a bit as he crossed the US a few months back. What's the use of us just sitting back and wondering if you made it or not[?] More fun to ride along vicariously and pitch in if a snag occurs.[B)]
Don't HESITATE to call me if you end up stalled somewhere!;)

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1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President 2-dr
1955 President State
1951 Champion Biz cpe
1963 Daytona project FS

BShaw
06-12-2005, 10:02 AM
If passing through Minneapolis-St. Paul, I'll be happy to lend any assistance possible. Good luck!:D

-BShaw
Webmaster
60 Hawk. 49 2R5, 39 Champion

64challenger
06-12-2005, 10:29 AM
This is going to be fun. Great way to bond and build lasting memories and another youth to get hooked on Studes and keep the interest in Studes alive! I'm 32 and my dad (who is 62) is the one that got me hooked on Studes thru telling me the stories. That's all my grandfather would drive. The families first new car ever was a 1950 2 door champ the last was a 57 golden hawk with 3 others in between. After 57 grandpa switched to ramblers. (not sure why) The reason i think what your doing is so cool is i've always wanted to & will (fingers-crossed) retrace my dads trip to California in 1950 with him in our current 50 champ 2 door. The only way it would make it now is on a trailer but the day is coming! Have fun!!!:)

My Studes:
1.1947 Commander 14A-C3
2.1948 Champion 2 door sedan (parts car)
3.1948 Champion 2 door sedan
4.1950 Champion 2 door sedan
5.1959 Lark 2 door post
6.1964 Stude challenger 2 door

BShaw
06-12-2005, 10:33 AM
gecoe: Also, if you're in the Twin Cities next weekend, 17th-19th, it's the Minnesota Street Rod Ass'n Back To The Fifties Weekend. More than 10,000 streetrods will be at our shady fairgrounds that weekend. Stude-watching? Well, there'll be some, but you'll walk 10+ miles to find 'em. And there'll be at least one stock 1960 Hawk among them. ;)

-BShaw
Webmaster
60 Hawk. 49 2R5, 39 Champion

Sam Roberts
06-12-2005, 11:56 AM
Northeast Indiana near Ft. Wayne if you need anything. 375-2011 and the AC is 260.


quote:Originally posted by gecoe

Thanks for the well wishes and suggestions for additional stops.

With one exception the car is as prepared as I know how to make it. On the way to the storage garage last Sept. the OD wouldn't engage although I had it working well previously. I had no time to check it out then but suspect (hope) it's nothing major. I'll have to tackle that problem before we leave.

Mr. Biggs, you've been a tremendous help in the past and are coming through again. I've been trying to figure out how I could post a picture or two so I'll take you up on your offer.

Gerry


Sam Roberts

65cruiser
06-12-2005, 12:41 PM
You might want to read the recent thread by Jason as he traveled from the west coast back to New York. He also had problems with his OD and it was more work to fix that just some wiring. Leave yourself some extra time to troubleshoot that, because you'll wish you had that OD if it's not working.



quote:Originally posted by gecoe

Thanks for the well wishes and suggestions for additional stops.

With one exception the car is as prepared as I know how to make it. On the way to the storage garage last Sept. the OD wouldn't engage although I had it working well previously. I had no time to check it out then but suspect (hope) it's nothing major. I'll have to tackle that problem before we leave.


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gecoe
06-12-2005, 07:24 PM
Thanks everyone for your responses.

I followed Justin's adventures closely since our own road trip was coming up soon. I do anticipate issues along the way but hope to experience a lot less of them than he did.

Mr. Biggs, as always I appreciate your offer of support. Bshaw, thanks for the offer and info. I was kind of hoping to be in St. Paul for the 50's weekend but doubt we'll be there that soon. Sam, I've got your number, thanks.

I thought that there was a way to print the SDC roster but can't seem to find it. Does anyone know if it can be done? I thought it would fit nicely in the survival kit with my cell phone, AAA card and Mr. Biggs's number.

Gerry

studegary
06-12-2005, 09:06 PM
The SDC Roster is available in a printed form. That is what I use. With your schedule, maybe you could pay to have it overnighted to the Ohio address where the car is.

gecoe
06-16-2005, 03:13 PM
well, we got into Findlay, Ohio yesterday and went to get the Stude. It's the first time my grandson has seen it in person and he's awestruck. The guy that stored it for me had already taken it out of storage and cleaned it up for us so all we had to do was dive under the hood and check things out. The OD issue was easily resolved. The relay had gone south so we replaced it with one I had found and fixed up a while back and brought along just in case. OD works great now so we'll be taking a short trip to check everything else out.

We've come to our first major decision of the trip. Naturally, we're anxious to be on our way but the annual cruise night here is Sat. and we're tempted to hang around for it since it's quite big. I went to it last year and if there was another Stude there I couldn't find it. It seems like there should be at least one.

More to come......

Gerry

Roscomacaw
06-16-2005, 03:55 PM
Hey-HO!!!:D Alright Gerry! Glad to hear it was a simple fix on the OD.:)
So the kid was impressed by the car - that's cool. By gosh - if you've got the time and you can "hang out" until the car night, I would. I'll bet grandson might be impressed with the way the Stude's recieved.
Keep us posted;)

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1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President 2-dr
1955 President State
1951 Champion Biz cpe
1963 Daytona project FS

gecoe
06-17-2005, 09:20 PM
Hi All,

We made the decision to delay starting out on our trip until Sunday so we could attend the Sat. cruise night in Findlay, OH. Then, last night we heard about a car show and cruise in the town of Bluffton nearby. We took our car, now named Clara, over there tonight and had a great time. The car was well received and even got us a trophy for placing in the top 20 cars. DJ, my grandson, was impressed!

We're having a great time and haven't even gotten off the starting blocks yet.

Gerry

Roscomacaw
06-18-2005, 11:22 AM
Cool deal!:D

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1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President 2-dr
1955 President State
1951 Champion Biz cpe
1963 Daytona project FS

gecoe
06-18-2005, 01:21 PM
Hey Studebob, are you getting my emails?

Gerry

Roscomacaw
06-18-2005, 06:07 PM
No Gerry, I'm not. Are you E-mailing me via the forum or off it?[}:)]

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1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President 2-dr
1955 President State
1951 Champion Biz cpe
1963 Daytona project FS

gecoe
06-18-2005, 10:15 PM
Studebob, I was emailing you off the forum and got no indication the message didn't go through. I sent some pics and then another message when I suspected you might not have gotten the first.

Gerry

Roscomacaw
06-19-2005, 01:33 PM
Here's a photo of Gerry, grandson and the pretty 50 Champion they're heading west in.[:0]
Sorry about the quality of the pic. Gerry sent me a monster file and I tried to downsize it for easier viewing. Didn't come out that great.
I can assure you tho that that 50 is gorgeous!;)

http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/906179/1119771000795_Coe_Studebaker.jpg

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1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President 2-dr
1955 President State
1951 Champion Biz cpe
1963 Daytona project FS

Sam Roberts
06-19-2005, 06:11 PM
A very pretty 1950 Champion indeed!


quote:Originally posted by Mr.Biggs

Here's a photo of Gerry, grandson and the pretty 50 Champion they're heading west in.[:0]
Sorry about the quality of the pic. Gerry sent me a monster file and I tried to downsize it for easier viewing. Didn't come out that great.
I can assure you tho that that 50 is gorgeous!;)

http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/906179/1119771000795_Coe_Studebaker.jpg

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1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President 2-dr
1955 President State
1951 Champion Biz cpe
1963 Daytona project FS


Sam Roberts

gecoe
06-19-2005, 10:45 PM
We headed out to Colorado today and almost 4 hours of driving put us in South Bend. Somehow we drove straight to the Studebaker Museum without looking up the address or asking directions.[:0]

Clara performed flawlessly. We traveled at 55 mostly where the oil pressure gauge held steady on 40 lbs. Additionally, the heat guage never moved out of the normal range. I haven't checked the mileage yet but will tomorrow.

SASCO tomorrow along with anything else that strikes our fancy

Roscomacaw
06-20-2005, 12:12 PM
Color me envy green - again![xx(] Was Envy Green and Knuckle White an official Stude two-tone???[}:)]

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1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President 2-dr
1955 President State
1951 Champion Biz cpe
1963 Daytona project FS

gecoe
06-21-2005, 08:55 PM
Greetings from Richmond, Il. Yesterday, after visiting SASCO, we traveled north and west of South Bend to the Dunes National Park on the shore of Lake Michigan in Indiana. We stopped at Central Beach and Mt. Baldy Beach where we climbed sand dunes and walked along the beach. My grandson, DJ, swam in Lake Michigan. No internet available last night.

Yesterday the exhaust pipe cracked ahead of the muffler. We thought it sounded a bit better that way but today we had it replaced. Next, we circumnavigated Chicago to avoid the traffic and stay true to our commitment to secondary roads. The temperature was in the mid 90's and Clara did quite well. The engine temperature stayed in the normal range although it pushed the high end of it. We did notice that a few times after sitting at long traffic lights the engine would sputter when we took off. We stopped at a gas station and added a gallon of diesel fuel to the gas tank and topped it off with gasoline. That was the end of our vapor lock problem. We've also noticed that were getting a shudder when I let out the clutch. I don't know if it's the beginning of a clutch problem or a u joint going bad. I tend to suspect the first but we'll find out soon.

We've gone a bit over 400 miles now and checked our gas milage twice. The first time we got 24.6 mpg for mostly over the road travel and the second time it was 18.6 for a lot of stop and go driving. Quite a difference. Can anyone tell me how this compares with normal for these engines?

tomnoller
06-22-2005, 08:31 AM
Gerry - I too am as green as your Champion from envy! Good for you and DJ as you're living the mantra of the Drivers club and your grandson will cherish the memories to boot.
Have a blast, you guys!

gecoe
06-22-2005, 08:49 AM
Well, we've woken refreshed, consulted the map and set our sites on Wisconsin Dells today. Neither of us had ever heard of it before but our AAA book promises we'll enjoy it.

The car has gotten a lot of attention but, unlike another thread on the forum, we just continue to get the same old question. "What year is it?" It's gotten to the point where we know what people are going to say before they even open their mouth!

Thanks for the well wishes everyone!

To be continued.....

Gerry

stephenm
06-22-2005, 09:43 AM
Gerry, What a great idea! My grandson is only three, and I hope by the time he's 11 I have this '51 Business Coupe restored for a journey with him. Will you show your grandson the Badlands of SD? If so try to arrive really early or late in the day this time of year...the light then is so spectacular. Don't buy a cup of coffee in Douglas, Wyoming...yikes is it bad! (must be the water)...can't wait to read your progress...if we can't make the trip at least we can live it vicariously!
Stephen A

Roscomacaw
06-22-2005, 11:38 AM
You're having too much fun, Gerry. Isn't it amazing how well things can go in a well-prepared Stude?[^]
I'm soooooooo envious of your adventure.

Never been to the Dells of Wisconsin but I have been to that great state a few times. I love buying the local dairy's cheezes at their individual outlets. Yum![:p]

Which state do you think you'll wander into next? Tell us more details. We wanna hear about it all!:D

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1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President 2-dr
1955 President State
1951 Champion Biz cpe
1963 Daytona project FS

Sam Roberts
06-22-2005, 11:47 AM
The 1st time I saw the Dells it was nice, not so commercial as it is now. They have more ways to grab your money there now than Carter has liver pills! ;)

Also, Mt, Rushmore, and Yellowstone, has gotten quite commercial from what I hear. I was to those places in 1969, and 1979, so I can only imagine how they are now!


quote:Originally posted by gecoe

Well, we've woken refreshed, consulted the map and set our sites on Wisconsin Dells today. Neither of us had ever heard of it before but our AAA book promises we'll enjoy it.

The car has gotten a lot of attention but, unlike another thread on the forum, we just continue to get the same old question. "What year is it?" It's gotten to the point where we know what people are going to say before they even open their mouth!

Thanks for the well wishes everyone!

To be continued.....

Gerry


Sam Roberts

52hawk
06-23-2005, 09:10 AM
Mt Rushmore has been totally ruined by the commercialism.There is so much concrete,[parking garage,giant building,restaurant,gift shop]the sculpture looks blah.South Dakota should be ashamed!

Are those fins supposed to be on there?from the factory?

gecoe
06-23-2005, 09:08 PM
Rochester, Minnesota turned out to be our stop for tonight.

WI Dells was an amazing place. They have more ways to pry money out of your wallet than you can imagine. We rode a 1500 hp jet boat, raced go carts, rode a WW2 Duck (not a Weasel but fun anyway) and DJ swam for hours. I felt lucky to get out of town with any money left and I think I may have broken one of their laws by doing so:D.

We left WI Dells at 12:30 pm today and headed northwest. We agree that Wisconsin is the prettiest state we've traveled through so far. What a great place for a drive! Everyone, farmers, bikers, truckers and all the rest, waved as we drove by. The temperature was in the mid 90's again and pulling the hills caused our temperature guage to move into the hot area for the first time. I tried to find some Water Wetter but had to settle for a subsitute called Kool It. If it helped at all, I couldn't prove it. We never had an overheating problem but just after we crossed the Mississippi River into MN at Winona our slowed travel through town resulted in a vapor lock.:( Yes, we've continued to use the diesel fuel trick but it obviously has it's limits. As with most things, time cured our problem and we traveled here to Rochester where I'm making up for no internet last night and DJ is, of course, swimming.

To be continued.....

Gerry

Roscomacaw
06-24-2005, 12:23 AM
I like your attitude Gerry. It's obviously cooler than the cars'![:0] Wonder what will stand out most, in DJ's mind, about this trip some 20 or 30 years from now?[:I]

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1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President 2-dr
1955 President State
1951 Champion Biz cpe
1963 Daytona project FS

gecoe
06-24-2005, 12:52 AM
Thanks Bob.

I don't know what he'll remember the most about all this but I hope, if nothing else, he discovers that cool heads persevere. Things don't become a crisis until you make them one.

By the way, we're in the land of 10,000 Lakes so I wonder if anyone out there knows of a suitable fishing experience we could look into.

Gerry

gecoe
06-24-2005, 04:38 PM
Prayers are answered!:) We had an overcast day that topped out in the lower 80's today. What a pleasure it was to drive west across Minnesota on US 14. We bought a big bag of bing cherries and planted cherry trees for a hundred miles across the state. Try that in your AC cars with the windows up!:D The cooler weather was welcome because getting through Rochester's many, many traffic lights in yesterday's heat would not have worked for us. Clara's temperature guage was back in the normal range, although at the high end of it which was higher than I thought it should have been for a day like today. It stayed in mid-normal range through town and went up at higher speeds. It didn't seem to change when I varied speeds from 45 up to 65 so I set my mental cruise control at about 55 and drove to Springfield, MI where we're spending the night.

My daughter has posted a few pics and some of the trip information I've sent her at http://gerry-djtriptime.blogspot.com/ if anyone is intersted.

To be continued......

Gerry

Roscomacaw
06-24-2005, 06:19 PM
Cool pix, Ger. That's a fine-lookin' 50![^]

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1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President 2-dr
1955 President State
1951 Champion Biz cpe
1963 Daytona project FS

MikeW
06-24-2005, 06:24 PM
I am envious! I agree a really great looking bulletnose and what a great experience. I suspect that from the sound of things DJ will mostly remember all that swimming.


Mike
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52hawk
06-24-2005, 07:16 PM
I especailly like the picture in front of the Stude museum! Can you say bigbagofbingcherries real fast 10 times??? Thanks for the pics!!!

Are those fins supposed to be on there?from the factory?

tomnoller
06-25-2005, 08:54 AM
I'd sure love to see this story in TW, with some of those pics, Gerry. Would hope there'd always be room for 'on the road' stories since that's what our club's all about and with the added angle of taking your grandson along, it might be inspiring for others to do so thus perpetuating Stude-love!
You've sure inspired me!

gecoe
06-25-2005, 06:04 PM
We're now in Brookings, SD. We again had a nice cool, overcast day and a pleasant drive. Drove west through Minnesota on US 14 which they have designated the Laura Ingals Wilding Memorial Highway since the little house on the prairie she wrote about was in the area. We stopped along the way and toured a place where they have constructed replicas of sod houses like she lived in and learned how they were made.

We have now traveled over 1100 miles and, with the exception of the vapor lock problem yesterday, had no problems of any kind with Clara. She's as steadfast and reliable as one could expect any car to be. A few of the modern frills are missing but, on the other hand, she's a lot more fun to drive. A TW article? I'm thinking that might be a fun project to take on when this is all over. Right now though our journals, these updates and emails to friends and family is quite enough!

I was asked earlier if the Badlands of SD was in our travel plans. The answer is absolutely and we appreciate the advice for traveling times there. Thanks!

The car hasn't complained about it but I'm still bothered some by the operating temperature. As I've mentioned, we cruise at the top of the normal range. I verified the high reading by measuring the block temperature and found it to be running at 200 degrees. Sitting at idle, driving through towns and even cruising at 45mph yields a temperature in the mid-normal range but kicking the speed up to 50 and above takes it to the high end of the normal range. I'm going to post a query in the tech section for ideas but suggestions here are welcomed also.

to be continued......

Gerry

Roscomacaw
06-25-2005, 06:35 PM
Gerry,
If anything, that temp should act the opposite - heat up at idle, cool off on the road - but you know that.
Next chance you get at a rest stop, while fully warmed, hold partial throttle for a bit while watching to see if the lower radiator hose tries to suck itself shut. I've seen this same scenario and found that to be the problem.
At idle, the pump speed (and consequent suction) isn't high enough to overcome the hose's natural shape - but at speed, the darned thing will draw the hose closed on itself and limit coolant flow.
Take's a new lower hose or at least the spring inside of one to fix that. [}:)] Of course, running hot like that would only exacerbate the vapor-lock occurances.
When you check this, run the engine at part throttle for a minute or so before you dismiss the possibility. Sometimes the suction is right on the edge of where it will draw the hose shut and so it takes a bit for it to reach the point where it happens.;)

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1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President 2-dr
1955 President State
1951 Champion Biz cpe
1963 Daytona project FS

gecoe
06-25-2005, 06:53 PM
Thanks Bob,

I had already dismissed that possibility since all my hoses are new. Now that you mention it though I'll do just as you suggest. It's certainly an easy enough test to do.

Gerry

52hawk
06-26-2005, 10:20 AM
Hello Gecoe!! There is an 'antique' car museum in Murdo,SD. Worth the stop.They have some cool cars and machines,most are unkemp and uncared for though-They had a Tucker when I was there,and a Harley that belonged to Elvis. You may remember a letter and picture in Turning Wheels about a 52 Studebaker stretched limo.Murdo is where that pic was taken,but the 52 is gone. Nice trip so far,good luck with the heating problem !

Are those fins supposed to be on there?from the factory?

gecoe
06-26-2005, 10:17 PM
OK, thanks! We've got Murdo spotted and it's amongst our considerations.

We're in Pierre, South Dakota tonight. We hadn't gone very far this morning when we spotted a sign advertising the Laura Ingalls Wilding homestead memorial. We turned to have a look and found a kid friendly facility dedicated to teaching kids about the pioneer life located on the old Ingalls homestead. We spent a few hours there and enjoyed it very much.

When we first started this morning it was a cool overcast day again but while we played the sun burned away our cloud cover leaving us a hot, bright day with a temperature that went to 95 degrees. Kept Clara to around 50 mph to keep the engine temperature in the upper normal range. We met a man at a gas station today that has two 60 Hawks and a 50 Stude pickup. He told us about a place near Armour, SD where a guy has a couple hundred Studes. We thought about going by there but it's not exactly between us and the badlands and, with the engine temperature consideration, it didn't seem practical. Still, we sure would have liked to have seen that!

While driving in Pierre this evening a couple followed us into a hotel and asked us questions about Clara. Then he wanted to know if she was for sale. Obviously, we said no.

to be continued......

Gerry

Bunzard
06-27-2005, 02:49 AM
Gecoe,
Don't listen to the remarks about Mt. Rushmore. Sure, it is not the same as 20 or 50 years ago but your grandson will be seeing it for the first time and I'll guarentee he will be amazed and you will probably catch your breath too. I have not been there since the last "modernization", and probably won't like it, but they haven't changed the sculpture which is a National Shrine and awe inspiring.
By the way..The place is managed and owned by the National Park Service and the state of SD has no voice in the operation. The governor offered to operate Mt. Rushmore before the latest redo but the Feds turned him down cold though they're loosing money at it.

If you have not toured the Black Hills before, take a day and go south to Hot Springs where your 'swimmer' will have a blast at Evan's Plunge, a huge warm water spring and water fun spot. After his energy is reduced go about two miles to the Mammoth Site, a unique dig where they have unearthed dozens of mammoths, sabre tooth tigers, and other old timers.

From there take US 385 north thru the Hills to Deadwood and you will be just a few miles from I-90 to continue to WY and beyond. Don't believe the signs about the generous slot machines in Deadwood tho they are there to take your money not finance your trip. Hope you have a great time the rest of the trip. Oh yes, you can buy some brands of gasoline that do not include 10% ethenol, the source of vapor lock in my old Ford truck. Conoco has been the biggest offender but the pumps are required to tell if it contains alky.

Bunzard
06-27-2005, 02:57 AM
Gecoe, your question about mileage; In '59 I had a '51 Champ and your mileage is very similar to what I experienced. The new 'jelly bean' cars with all their technology do about the same!!

52hawk
06-27-2005, 07:59 AM
Mount Rushmore is still a 'must see' for any one traveling through the area !!! I didn't mean it should be ignored.but,it is hard to ignore all the commercialism around it!! also a must see is Devils Tower in Wyoming..

Are those fins supposed to be on there?from the factory?

gecoe
06-27-2005, 09:07 PM
We found Central Radiator, the only radiator shop in Pierre, SD, this morning and met a great, old guy named Russel. Together we removed and backflushed the radiator, flushed the block, replaced the thermostat with my new spare and replaced the water pump with my rebuilt spare. We stopped short of rodding the radiator because Russel was afraid of stranding us for a few days if a new core was required. There is definately some improvement because she cruises at normal temperature up to around 55 - 60 mph before starting to heat up now. It was a cooler day today and I'm sure that helped some too.

After everything was buttoned up we headed south to Murdo, SD where we spent several hours in the Pioneer Auto Museum. This is a must see for anyone that likes old cars and other Americana items. The only bad side of stopping here is that we had to bite the bullet and travel 17 miles of interstat highway to get to it. Apparently you can get here without using the interstate but you travel a lot of miles to do so. I'm also told that we'll face the same problem getting to the Badlands from here tomorrow. Oh well,we won't like it but we'll do what we have to do.

Thank everyone for the tips on places to see. We would never have found this place otherwise.


to be continued......

Gerry

gecoe
06-28-2005, 09:00 PM
We left Murdo, SD early this morning and headed for the Badlands. It started out as a cloudy and cool day which was good for driving but didn't exactly create Kodak moments in the Badlands. Again, the sun came out and cooked us later so we got some good pics. Later, we moved on to Mt. Rushmore. Those loooong, steeeep climbs through the Blackhills were too much for our diesel fuel/gas trick and we were stuck on the side of the road three times even though we've got the engine running cooler than it was before. With the sole exception of the overheating/vapor lock problem, the Stude has been a wonderful ride throughout our trip. She drives like a dream on the radial tires and is as comfortable a car as you could want to ride in.

We both had a good time climbing in the Badlands. Yes, Mt. Rushmore has changed significantly since I visited it some 45 or so years ago. It's still a great site though and and worth the visit.

Tonight, thanks to a suggestion on this forum, we are staying in Hot Springs, SD.

to be continued.....

Gerry

Sonny
06-30-2005, 12:21 PM
Anybody heard from Gerry for the last couple of days now? Hope all is OK! Probably just no internet hookup where he is....

Sonny
http://RacingStudebakers.com

gecoe
07-01-2005, 01:30 AM
Hi All,

Thanks for the concern Sonny. All is well.

Our next stop was at Hot Springs, SD where we spent the night. The next morning, in accordance with more good advice from this site, DJ and I went swimming at Evans Plunge. What a great pool. If you're ever traveling through this area I advise you to stop and enjoy it!

Our swim was followed by a tour of the Mammoth Site, also in Hot Springs, where they have dug up 53 mammoth skeletons and are still digging. Another real good stop for both of us.

Later that afternoon we drove south towards Nebraska. It was cool and the car was running perfectly but as I drove I could see we were on a collision course with an east bound storm. The storm was small but obviously significant as everything from the clouds to the horizon was black. I finally stopped at the Nebraska border to wait for the storm to pass in front of us. After the storm had moved through we continued approximately one mile and found the next mile of highway covered with several inches of 3/4 inch hail. We continued on throhgh Nebraska and into Wyoming without event and stayed in Lusk, WY for the night.

This morning, as we prepared Clara for the drive, I found that the rebuilt fuel pump I put on last summer had started to spray oil. This is the forth fuel pump I've gone through in the past 3 years and each of them has done the same thing. The guy that rebuilt this one for me promised I wouldn't have that problem again so I'm going to find out just how serious he was. Between the vapor locking and oil spraying I'm pretty much convinced an electric fuel pump is in Clara's near future.

About 2 1/2 hours into our drive this morning we entered our final state. The "Welcome to Colorful Colorado" sign loomed large and meant that we were only an hour from home. As we made our way on the final leg of our journey we were surprised as a car full of those dearest to us pulled along side to escort us home.

DJ and I are home now and have had a great trip. We were on the road for seventeen days, traveled 2004 miles and passed through ten states. I had worked hard to make sure Clara was ready for this trip and was reasonably sure that she would make it without too much trouble. However, my real source of confidence was knowing that help was at hand through this forum if need arose. Mr. Biggs, you can stand down now. I've had the cell phone number you sent me at the ready throughout this trip and appreciate the lifeline. Thanks are in order too for the suggestions and advise that were so helpful to us.

The end :D

Gerry

Sonny
07-01-2005, 02:34 AM
Great to hear from you Gerry! That, and congratulations upon the completion of such a great trip! The idea to include your grandson in something like this trip, to cherish for the rest of your lives, is one hell of a wonderful thing. I said it before, I'm jealous! Welcome home!

Sonny
http://RacingStudebakers.com

Roscomacaw
07-01-2005, 12:40 PM
Great news Gerry! Sounds like you had a great time with Clara and the grandson. I would loved to have been along for one of the legs of your trek. Maybe you an Clara could find your way to a national meet sometime (Like maybe Spokane, eh?) You and Clara AND the grandkid would have a ball being immersed in Studebakering![:0] Of course, that's what you've been doing for the past 2 weeks anyway;) You're an inspiration to others to take to the road in a Studee! good show!:D

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1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President 2-dr
1955 President State
1951 Champion Biz cpe
1963 Daytona project FS