View Full Version : 5 spd Champs

03-01-2005, 07:41 PM
Anyone out there have any idea how many 5 spd/OD Champs were produced? I never saw one when they were current, but I have the "hots" for one now.

steve blake

03-01-2005, 09:50 PM
Hard to say Steve, couple years back there were two or three in Oregon for sale in TW. I missed out on one locally about 21 years ago at a farm auction locally. It was a '64 8E12 w/5 spd OD, airconditiong, power brakes and sliding rear window. Cant remember if it was a T4 or T6.
I believe it came from the local dealer, Wolfe Motors, Corydon, IN

03-02-2005, 08:24 AM
I owned and drove an 8E12 5spd for a number of years. Sorry I ever sold it! That was one versatile truck!;)

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03-02-2005, 06:00 PM
Well, I'm high bidder on one in ebay now. I hope it doesn't go by way of the snipers. Can't wait to get my hands on it. I wonder if it's one of the ones that was in TW a couple of years ago. It's in Oregon

steve blake

03-02-2005, 06:36 PM
Wow I wish my champ was a 5 speed, she wouldn't be such a "screamer" on the highway.


03-03-2005, 01:44 PM
Here is a pic of my counsin's 64 8E7 with the NP 5th over


Restored but still with the original drive train.

I think I had heard somewhere that seven half-tons were ordered in the 1964s with the NP 5th over transmission. No way to confirm that number unless you wanted to look through all the production orders.

My 7E7 - Restored by my Uncle Denson in 1995

03-03-2005, 04:08 PM
As of the fact that I'm driving a three-speed manual in my 1949 Champion, I would love to know how "relaxed" a five speed sounds while cruising!

Livin' in Germany: 1949 Studebaker Champion Regal Deluxe Starlight Coupe

03-03-2005, 04:21 PM
BigB, does your Champion have Overdrive? That makes a BIG difference in road speed RPMs. If your Champion has/had O/D it's a 30% advantage that really makes a difference over a non-O/D 3rd gear.
The 5spd - while they DO have O/D, it's only a 15% advantage over top gear so it's actualy less advantageous over a 3-spd O/D tranny. Of course, the gears in the rear axle are a big part of the overall performance.;)

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03-04-2005, 09:02 PM
Steve I should have my 2R6 with 289 & 5 OD on the road in a couple weeks. I just finisned building a wire harness for it and now will start on an exhoust system. The 5 OD was in a 63 1/2 ton Champ originaly.
The 5 OD I put in the 8E13 I thought it was from a C-Cab but it had Champ motor mounts on the bell housing. I got lucky and found 2 5 ODs in the last 2 or 3 years. The only trouble with the 5 OD is the gig jump from 3rd to 4th. But it is only a problem when houling a heavy load or pulling a loaded trailer.

Jerry (studeblu)
64 E13 Transtar
53 Coupe
53 2R6 pickup