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sumf
02-24-2007, 04:34 PM
On July 19th, Karl Haas will give a talk of the History of Studebaker at the San Diego Automotive Museum.
This is part of the "Third Thursday" series of free talks on various automotive sujects.
The illustrated history will cover the Studebaker story from the arrival of the sip Parle in Philadelphia through the remnants of Sudebaker today.
It should be 1 1/2 to two hours in duration, depending on questions and comments from those attending.
Plans are underway for a guarded dislay of Studebakers in front of the museum. Feel free to bring a Studebaker or any other car once asociated with Studebaker.


www.sdautomuseum.org

lstude
02-24-2007, 05:56 PM
Could someone video tape it and bring it to South Bend?

Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
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lstude
02-24-2007, 05:56 PM
Could someone video tape it and bring it to South Bend?

Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
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Guido
02-24-2007, 06:12 PM
Leonard,

That might be tough as the talk will occur a month after the South Bend meet this year. :D

Gary

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Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R16A grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures".

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

Guido
02-24-2007, 06:12 PM
Leonard,

That might be tough as the talk will occur a month after the South Bend meet this year. :D

Gary

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Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R16A grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures".

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

Dick Steinkamp
02-24-2007, 06:30 PM
quote:Originally posted by sumf
...from the arrival of the sip Parle in Philadelphia through the remnants of Sudebaker today.


What's a "sip Parle"??



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Dick Steinkamp
02-24-2007, 06:30 PM
quote:Originally posted by sumf
...from the arrival of the sip Parle in Philadelphia through the remnants of Sudebaker today.


What's a "sip Parle"??



http://thenobot.org/images/s2d/s2d_01.jpg

StudeDave57
02-24-2007, 06:48 PM
quote:Originally posted by Dick Steinkamp


quote:Originally posted by sumf
...from the arrival of the sip Parle in Philadelphia through the remnants of Sudebaker today.


What's a "sip Parle"??


I'll try and remember to ask Karl at our next meeting...

StudeDave [8D]
V/P San Diego County SDC
San Diego, Ca

'54 Commander 4dr 'Ruby'
'57 Parkview (it's a 2dr wagon...) 'Betsy'
'57 Commander 2dr 'Baby'
'57 Champion 2dr 'Jewel'
'58 Packard sedan 'Cleo'
'65 Cruiser 'Sweet Pea'

StudeDave57
02-24-2007, 06:48 PM
quote:Originally posted by Dick Steinkamp


quote:Originally posted by sumf
...from the arrival of the sip Parle in Philadelphia through the remnants of Sudebaker today.


What's a "sip Parle"??


I'll try and remember to ask Karl at our next meeting...

StudeDave [8D]
V/P San Diego County SDC
San Diego, Ca

'54 Commander 4dr 'Ruby'
'57 Parkview (it's a 2dr wagon...) 'Betsy'
'57 Commander 2dr 'Baby'
'57 Champion 2dr 'Jewel'
'58 Packard sedan 'Cleo'
'65 Cruiser 'Sweet Pea'

rockne10
02-24-2007, 09:01 PM
Me thinks he refers to the ship "Haarle", from which the only three immigrants ever named Studebaker arrived in Philadelphia on July 1, 1736. Anyone named Studebaker descended from these three.

rockne10
02-24-2007, 09:01 PM
Me thinks he refers to the ship "Haarle", from which the only three immigrants ever named Studebaker arrived in Philadelphia on July 1, 1736. Anyone named Studebaker descended from these three.

richpease
02-24-2007, 11:13 PM
Thanks for the announcement, I'm going to put it in my calendar and try to videotape it as well. I won't be able to bring it to a meet, but I'll post it via YouTube or something.

Rich Pease
Torrance, CA

61 Lark Regal Cruiser

richpease
02-24-2007, 11:13 PM
Thanks for the announcement, I'm going to put it in my calendar and try to videotape it as well. I won't be able to bring it to a meet, but I'll post it via YouTube or something.

Rich Pease
Torrance, CA

61 Lark Regal Cruiser

sumf
02-25-2007, 09:29 PM
Considering that the ship name starts with "Haa"
and the speakers name stars with "Haa".....

Anyhow, here's my first try at listing the likely subjects to be covered include (in no special order in this list):

The arrival of the first of the Studebaker brothers in the Haarle
(and mention of the SNF)

Dad and sons move to Ohio / Indiana

H&C shop, Wheelbarrow Johnny / Hangtown

Depositories and assembly places, domestic and overseas (using d'letteren as a late-era example.
History of Canadian plant and ending of production

Speed & endurance, Incl Indy, Bonneville and board tracks

Associated Marques (Probably not including 1965 Packard)

Designers, Interior (Dryden) and exterior Loewy
(including definition of "designer"

Defense work Civil war and WWII mostly, also 1960s "hand-out"

Studebaker after 1966 (including Newman / Altman)

A.R. Erskine and $$$ problems


SDC and other Studebaker clubs, perhaps including SAS and SOCA

Studebaker Museum

Dealers and "driveaways"

No mention of 1965 Packard.

Those wishing to tape should contact Kenn Closure at the SDAM for info and co-ordination well beforehnd.

There are other thigs in my mind, like politics, watches, Mr Fish

Comments welcome, but remember adding something means cutting or shorting other things.

Karl

sumf
02-25-2007, 09:29 PM
Considering that the ship name starts with "Haa"
and the speakers name stars with "Haa".....

Anyhow, here's my first try at listing the likely subjects to be covered include (in no special order in this list):

The arrival of the first of the Studebaker brothers in the Haarle
(and mention of the SNF)

Dad and sons move to Ohio / Indiana

H&C shop, Wheelbarrow Johnny / Hangtown

Depositories and assembly places, domestic and overseas (using d'letteren as a late-era example.
History of Canadian plant and ending of production

Speed & endurance, Incl Indy, Bonneville and board tracks

Associated Marques (Probably not including 1965 Packard)

Designers, Interior (Dryden) and exterior Loewy
(including definition of "designer"

Defense work Civil war and WWII mostly, also 1960s "hand-out"

Studebaker after 1966 (including Newman / Altman)

A.R. Erskine and $$$ problems


SDC and other Studebaker clubs, perhaps including SAS and SOCA

Studebaker Museum

Dealers and "driveaways"

No mention of 1965 Packard.

Those wishing to tape should contact Kenn Closure at the SDAM for info and co-ordination well beforehnd.

There are other thigs in my mind, like politics, watches, Mr Fish

Comments welcome, but remember adding something means cutting or shorting other things.

Karl

studeclunker
02-26-2007, 12:47 AM
1965 PACKARD[?][?][?][?]

Wait, wait, wait. Packard production ended forever in 1958. Right[?] Or did it[?][?][?]

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Lotsa Larks!
K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
Ron Smith
Where the heck is Lewiston, CA?

studeclunker
02-26-2007, 12:47 AM
1965 PACKARD[?][?][?][?]

Wait, wait, wait. Packard production ended forever in 1958. Right[?] Or did it[?][?][?]

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Lotsa Larks!
K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
Ron Smith
Where the heck is Lewiston, CA?

Pckstude
02-26-2007, 01:21 PM
Maybe somebody had the numbers turned around, there's a wodr fro that,,

Pckstude
02-26-2007, 01:21 PM
Maybe somebody had the numbers turned around, there's a wodr fro that,,

studegary
02-26-2007, 04:40 PM
I know what Karl is referring to, but I think that we should let that subject die.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

1959 DeLuxe pickup (restomod)

studegary
02-26-2007, 04:40 PM
I know what Karl is referring to, but I think that we should let that subject die.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

1959 DeLuxe pickup (restomod)

sumf
02-26-2007, 06:06 PM
Gary,

For you, I will control myself.

Karl

sumf
02-26-2007, 06:06 PM
Gary,

For you, I will control myself.

Karl

rockne10
02-26-2007, 08:53 PM
quote:Comments welcome
Should it be mentioned John Studebaker, father of the five boys, opened a wagon shop in Adams County, Pa, where the boys were raised and the wagon that carried them to Ohio and Indiana was built? The site of the shop is on a road now known as Studebaker Lane. John's brother David also built a house in nearby East Berlin, Pa. I've heard that house was recently demolished.[V]

rockne10
02-26-2007, 08:53 PM
quote:Comments welcome
Should it be mentioned John Studebaker, father of the five boys, opened a wagon shop in Adams County, Pa, where the boys were raised and the wagon that carried them to Ohio and Indiana was built? The site of the shop is on a road now known as Studebaker Lane. John's brother David also built a house in nearby East Berlin, Pa. I've heard that house was recently demolished.[V]

sumf
02-26-2007, 10:51 PM
Another old building gone - too bad that they couldn't have put it to some good use.

I like to walk and when I walked around an area near my home for most of the 1990s, I'd often go by an outbuilding (storehouse) of a nearby hotel.
The structure was sure old, but still in use. "1610" was above the door!
That was new compared to the nearby Norman-era church.
Karl

sumf
02-26-2007, 10:51 PM
Another old building gone - too bad that they couldn't have put it to some good use.

I like to walk and when I walked around an area near my home for most of the 1990s, I'd often go by an outbuilding (storehouse) of a nearby hotel.
The structure was sure old, but still in use. "1610" was above the door!
That was new compared to the nearby Norman-era church.
Karl

studeclunker
02-27-2007, 12:32 AM
Norman era church??? Are you in Great Britian?

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Lotsa Larks!
K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
Ron Smith
Where the heck is Lewiston, CA?

studeclunker
02-27-2007, 12:32 AM
Norman era church??? Are you in Great Britian?

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Lotsa Larks!
K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
Ron Smith
Where the heck is Lewiston, CA?

sumf
02-27-2007, 01:14 AM
quote:Originally posted by studeclunker

Norman era church??? Are you in Great Britian?

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Lotsa Larks!
K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
Ron Smith
Where the heck is Lewiston, CA?


I was in Coventry, the auto paradise of England for a mostly-happy eight years, between periods in California.

BTW, Lewiston is a bit SE of Weaverville, in Trinity County

Karl Haas

sumf
02-27-2007, 01:14 AM
quote:Originally posted by studeclunker

Norman era church??? Are you in Great Britian?

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Lotsa Larks!
K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
Ron Smith
Where the heck is Lewiston, CA?


I was in Coventry, the auto paradise of England for a mostly-happy eight years, between periods in California.

BTW, Lewiston is a bit SE of Weaverville, in Trinity County

Karl Haas

sumf
03-02-2007, 03:02 AM
In response to someone who whom my server told me had sent a message, the program usually starts about 6:30, IIRC.

As the 3rd Thursday is a bruidge evening, I have never attended one of these talks.

That'as too bad, as I had notjing to comment on when Chucck Jordan came thriugh the library a while back...

Karl

sumf
03-02-2007, 03:02 AM
In response to someone who whom my server told me had sent a message, the program usually starts about 6:30, IIRC.

As the 3rd Thursday is a bruidge evening, I have never attended one of these talks.

That'as too bad, as I had notjing to comment on when Chucck Jordan came thriugh the library a while back...

Karl

Roscomacaw
03-02-2007, 12:35 PM
Clunk, Karl means 1610 was the street address.;) And the "Norman-era chruch" makes reference to pastor Norman Smith who'd helped build the church's new chapel in 1959.[:o)]

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle
http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/906179/2006/12/7/truckonhill3.jpg

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

Roscomacaw
03-02-2007, 12:35 PM
Clunk, Karl means 1610 was the street address.;) And the "Norman-era chruch" makes reference to pastor Norman Smith who'd helped build the church's new chapel in 1959.[:o)]

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle
http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/906179/2006/12/7/truckonhill3.jpg

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

sumf
03-02-2007, 10:39 PM
I have the main history / bare bones of the lecture laid-out, and now have a few items left that I would like to add, as time allows.

Here's the way I would like to present these other aspects, before everyone walks away, yawning.


Additional subjects as time allows (SDC will be final subject):

Trucks and other commercial vehicles
Defense work
Innovations (Hill holder, disc brake option in US)
Races, trials, Etc. (Cannonball, Bonneville, Indy, board tracks…)
“Designers” (Name on Door vs. Name on Drawing)
Studebaker National Museum
Dealerships and Shows
Drive-aways
M-B / Curtis-Wright connection (May be in body.)
Goat wagons, water carts and other “unusual products”

Any care to change the priority?

Karl

sumf
03-02-2007, 10:39 PM
I have the main history / bare bones of the lecture laid-out, and now have a few items left that I would like to add, as time allows.

Here's the way I would like to present these other aspects, before everyone walks away, yawning.


Additional subjects as time allows (SDC will be final subject):

Trucks and other commercial vehicles
Defense work
Innovations (Hill holder, disc brake option in US)
Races, trials, Etc. (Cannonball, Bonneville, Indy, board tracks…)
“Designers” (Name on Door vs. Name on Drawing)
Studebaker National Museum
Dealerships and Shows
Drive-aways
M-B / Curtis-Wright connection (May be in body.)
Goat wagons, water carts and other “unusual products”

Any care to change the priority?

Karl

sumf
03-02-2007, 10:43 PM
quote:Originally posted by Mr.Biggs

Clunk, Karl means 1610 was the street address.;) And the "Norman-era chruch" makes reference to pastor Norman Smith who'd helped build the church's new chapel in 1959.[:o)]

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle
http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/906179/2006/12/7/truckonhill3.jpg

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe




For crying out loud.
Seventy-six years since I hear from you and this is the best you can come up with!
You were away for the NG too long. <g>
(But I was watching you and making notes.)

Karl

Karl

sumf
03-02-2007, 10:43 PM
quote:Originally posted by Mr.Biggs

Clunk, Karl means 1610 was the street address.;) And the "Norman-era chruch" makes reference to pastor Norman Smith who'd helped build the church's new chapel in 1959.[:o)]

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle
http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/906179/2006/12/7/truckonhill3.jpg

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe




For crying out loud.
Seventy-six years since I hear from you and this is the best you can come up with!
You were away for the NG too long. <g>
(But I was watching you and making notes.)

Karl

Karl