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coilman
04-17-2010, 05:34 PM
I found a 1924 stud. rag-top in a barn this week in very good condition and all the mechanics are there. The car was parked since 1943. Any info. on the car will help the only thing missing is the to doors.(purchased for original owner)

Does anyone know the production numbers for this car?

If someone wants to see it i have VERY GOOD pictures of it. Anyone wanting to call me tonight at my office is free to do so, it is toll free.
Doug
TEL:800-665-2645

Chris_Dresbach
04-17-2010, 05:41 PM
Will need pictures of it, and the best way to identify it is by looking at its vin tag. Sounds like a good find.:)

Chris Dresbach. South Bend, In.
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Studebaker%201/ModelN-1-1.jpghttp://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/40champion-1-1.jpghttp://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Studebaker%201/N10-1-1.jpg
1940 Champion two door.
Parts of the 1952 Model N prototype.
1963 Prototype moon cart built by Studebaker.

coilman
04-18-2010, 09:32 PM
I will try and post the pictures this week.I have looked all over and I can't find a car the same. Anyone that wants the pictures sent to them send me a e-mail dturnbull@turnbullcoils.com
Doug Turnbull

doug
04-18-2010, 11:06 PM
There should be a body tag on the firewall (on the dngine side). Send us the numbers. Look behind the left front wheel on the frame, a serial number plate may be mounted there with a serial number. Send us that number for more information on model and number produced.

coilman
04-19-2010, 11:32 AM
I will be picking the car up this week.

wolfie
04-19-2010, 02:24 PM
Here is the picture he sent me. Thanks, Steve

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll160/wolfie_53/1271704936.jpg

STOLEN Studebaker!Ventura County ad says contact
Barry @ 805-218-3658
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll160/wolfie_53/stolenstude.jpg
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/cto/1544229962.html

Son O Lark
04-19-2010, 03:30 PM
Are those wheels for train rails?[?]

dpson
04-19-2010, 04:10 PM
It's a Light Six roadster. A 1924 should have a cast iron head. The earlier models had an aluminum head, which are a bear to remove after 80+ years due to corrosion. The solid steel wheels were an option, wood spoke were standard. Studebaker made a fair number of the Light Sixes so parts can be found. The very first Light Six was kept by Studebaker and is in the Studebaker National Museum.

Here is a photo of the '24 Light Six touring car I owned several years ago.

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q239/dpson/IMG00023.jpg

Dan Peterson
Montpelier, VT
1960 Lark V-8 Convertible
1960 Lark V-8 Convertible (parts car)
1961 Lark Crusier
1962 Lark V-8 Regal Convertible

coilman
04-19-2010, 06:09 PM
Wednesday is the big day, the car came from the original family and I know it has steel heads

scott.rodgers
04-19-2010, 06:16 PM
Wow - I'm always surprised when cars like this survived WWII scrap drives.

This will be a neat and rare car when done.

Scott Rodgers
Los Angeles
SDC Member since 1989
'60 Lark HT
'63 Wagonaire
'66 Frankenbaker

coilman
04-19-2010, 06:30 PM
Based on what everyone has seen, for the year of the car is it in good condition. Is the average in better condition.
Doug

I am going to be in my office for the next hour +/- Anyone can call it's toll free in the US TEL:1-800-665-2645

coilman
04-19-2010, 06:32 PM
Does anyone have a picture of a 2 door convertible they could send me.
Doug

52-fan
04-19-2010, 08:29 PM
I think I would call that a roadster. I would love to have one like that to restore. Good find.

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s186/52-fan/StudebakersofArkansas2-1.jpg"In the heart of Arkansas."
1952 Champion Starlight w/overdrive. Searcy, Arkansas

StudeRich
04-19-2010, 09:39 PM
quote:Originally posted by coilman

Based on what everyone has seen, for the year of the car is it in good condition. Is the average in better condition. Doug

I would say YES, the [u]AVERAGE</u> '24 IS in better condition than that.
The only reason I say that is that it is not really fair to compare a rare unmolested original to a well maintained, repaired or restored car, which is what most would be, after 86 Years! [:0]

StudeRich

bob40
04-20-2010, 01:25 PM
Beautiful car.

barnlark
04-20-2010, 01:55 PM
I don't know that I would consider that unmolested. ;) Hard to tell what is left, but it is in fair to poor condition if I were to label it, but...we've seen worse. It is a very desirable body style and hasn't been rodded, so for a restoration it has a leg up on a car that has been stripped of parts. But it does need everything. What is your plan, coilman? You may find pictures here:

http://www.theantiquestudebakerclub.com/ascmemebrsprojects/ascmemebrsprojectsrickpeterson1924roadster.htm

dictator27
04-20-2010, 02:05 PM
Did you get the demountable wheel rims with it?

Terry

wolfie
04-20-2010, 04:54 PM
quote:Originally posted by Son O Lark

Are those wheels for train rails?[?]



I think at least one wheel is missing an outer lock ring, but I think they are regular auto wheels. I am mostly guessing but I seem to remember a 2 piece wheel on a Ford truck about this vintage a former neighbor owned. Steve

STOLEN Studebaker!Ventura County ad says contact
Barry @ 805-218-3658
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll160/wolfie_53/stolenstude.jpg
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/cto/1544229962.html

PlainBrownR2
04-20-2010, 05:13 PM
Yeah, I'll bet it probably has the all steel discs, much like this vehicle has:):

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/International%20Studebaker%20Meet%20Omaha/MVC-017S.jpg


[IMG=left]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/55%20Studebaker%20Commander%20Streetrod%20Project/th_0413001627.jpg[/IMG=left]
[IMG=left]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/55%20Studebaker%20Commander%20Streetrod%20Project/th_0321001800.jpg[/IMG=left]
[IMG=right]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/My%201950%202r5%20Studebaker%20Pickup%20with%20turbocharger/th_P1000145.jpg[/IMG=right]
[IMG=right]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/My%201950%202r5%20Studebaker%20Pickup%20with%20turbocharger/th_P1000136.jpg[/IMG=right]
[IMG=left]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/Ex%20Studebaker%20Plant%20Locomotive/P1000578-1.jpg[/IMG=left]
[IMG=left]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/My%201964%20Studebaker%20Commander%20R2/P1010168.jpg[/IMG=left]

Studebaker Wheel
04-20-2010, 09:42 PM
Probably the very car that has just been found!?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=390182727988

Richard Quinn
Editor emeritus: Antique Studebaker Review

Chris_Dresbach
04-20-2010, 09:49 PM
quote:Originally posted by Studebaker Wheel

Probably the very car that has just been found!?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=390182727988

Richard Quinn
Editor emeritus: Antique Studebaker Review

That's too identical!!![:0][:0][:0]

Chris Dresbach. South Bend, In.
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Studebaker%201/ModelN-1-1.jpghttp://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/40champion-1-1.jpghttp://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Studebaker%201/N10-1-1.jpg
1940 Champion two door.
Parts of the 1952 Model N prototype.
1963 Prototype moon cart built by Studebaker.

coilman
04-21-2010, 07:08 AM
I'm get the car today,I do have the demountable rim, doors, bumpers and they are trying the find the original bill of sale.

Avantidon
04-21-2010, 07:40 AM
This is an interesting find and the picture Richard posted may be the same car but if not it is the same model. That's a nice fine. Hope you restore it.

coilman
04-21-2010, 08:41 AM
I like the car is a EL Roadster the serial # 1950305 on the frame and the motor # 1204423

coilman
04-21-2010, 08:49 AM
I THINK the car is a EL Special Six Roadster serial#1950305 on the frame and the motor is 1204423

Studebaker Wheel
04-21-2010, 11:38 AM
quote:Originally posted by coilman

I THINK the car is a EL Special Six Roadster serial#1950305 on the frame and the motor is 1204423


If you are referring to the car shown in the photo posted by Wolfie above that is definitely [u]not</u> an EL Special Six. It is a Light Six model EM, probably a 1924. While Studebaker sources are not real clear on the serial numbers it does seem certain that serial #1950305 was a Canadian (Walkerville) built model. As for the engine number it would be a six digit number and not seven. Perhaps you copied the casting number which consists of raised numerals. The engine number is [u]stamped into</u> the block on a boss at the rear of number six cylinder on the left side of the engine. It would start with a 14----.

Richard Quinn
Editor emeritus: Antique Studebaker Review

dictator27
04-21-2010, 11:43 AM
quote:Originally posted by coilman

I THINK the car is a EL Special Six Roadster serial#1950305 on the frame and the motor is 1204423


This is interesting! According to the information source I have(Richard Langworth's Studebaker Buyer's Guide)the serial numbers for '24 Special Sixes go from 307xxxx to 312xxxx. Oddly, the book does not include Light Six serial numbers for that period. The only numbers that begin with 195 are for Canadian built Standard Sixes(previously Light Six). Again, Canadian built Light Six numbers aren't listed, but Standard Sixes begin at 1951xxx. Is it reasonable to assume that 1950xxx would be 1924 Canadian Light Six?
Come to think of it, if that is the case, it should say "Made in Canada" on the radiator badge.

Your thoughts, Mr. Quinn?

Terry

Studebaker Wheel
04-21-2010, 12:10 PM
Is it reasonable to assume that 1950xxx would be 1924 Canadian Light Six?

Yes, that is what I inferred in my original post.

Richard Quinn
Editor emeritus: Antique Studebaker Review

52 Ragtop
04-21-2010, 12:31 PM
Ahh come on guys! A blown 289, rack & pinion steering and 4 wheel disc brakes would REALLY make it a cool car! &lt;G&gt;

Nice find, hope it gets a good restoration!

Jim

dictator27
04-21-2010, 12:50 PM
quote:Originally posted by Studebaker Wheel

Is it reasonable to assume that 1950xxx would be 1924 Canadian Light Six?

Yes, that is what I inferred in my original post.

Richard Quinn
Editor emeritus: Antique Studebaker Review


[:I][B)]D'oh! Your post wasn't here yet when I did mine.

Terry

coilman
04-21-2010, 01:50 PM
Guys, I have the car in my shop, The car was built in Walkerville Ontario. The serial number is on the frame tag front left. I will be cleaning it up with a steam this week.I will keep you posted and have pictures for your help.I still havn't found this body anywhere.Please note the round corners on the hood and the corners of the rad are round not like the 24's I have seen.After I steam the motor Ican confirm the number.
Doug

Studebaker Wheel
04-22-2010, 01:19 AM
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee285/studeq/23light6rdstrforum.jpg?t=1271917054

Here is your 1923-24 Light Six model EM roadster.

Richard Quinn
Editor emeritus: Antique Studebaker Review

coilman
04-23-2010, 04:00 PM
Richard, thank you for finding a picture of the car I purchased.
Doug

4961Studebaker
04-24-2010, 09:25 AM
I like it!

Talk about testing one's patients on restoration. finding parts etc, but when the car was complete........[8D]

Keep us updated, and if you tire, tyre, ;) with the project don't hestitate to let the Studebaker world know.

ChopStu
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q14/kkad0711/IMG_5411.jpg
112 weeks till completion.

wcarroll@outrageous.net
04-24-2010, 05:15 PM
Sweet find!!

Here's a nice 1925 Touring for sale in CA that's pretty on the eyes.

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/1698955033.html





http://community.webshots.com/user/s2dbaker?vhost=community

aarrggh
04-24-2010, 05:44 PM
If it was mine i would make it mechanically new perfect - nice new interior - and leave the rest of the car as is ( rust finish )..
( no i havent been drinking )

http://i49.tinypic.com/2nrj7ec.jpg

coilman
03-04-2014, 08:29 PM
Well here we are 2014 I finally found a car for parts (a 4 door ragtop that was built in the same plant ). Let the fun begin! these cars are like drugs, you can't just have one.

studefan
03-04-2014, 08:32 PM
Looks like a painting.

coilman
03-04-2014, 08:43 PM
I brought the car to a show just to get some feedback from people and see the reaction it was real crazy that day.I ended up telling people it was sold so they would stop asking if it was for sale. I found this picture on the net the next week.

StudeRich
03-05-2014, 01:59 AM
That is amazing how unreal it looks, just like studefan said...a painting. Maybe it's the bare rusted metal color, I don't know but it just has almost a cartoon look about it. :confused:

63t-cab
03-05-2014, 07:23 AM
Rich, I believe # 39 explains the picture found the following week.at first I thought it was something funky,until the next post.

That is amazing how unreal it looks, just like studefan said...a painting. Maybe it's the bare rusted metal color, I don't know but it just has almost a cartoon look about it. :confused:

coilman
03-05-2014, 06:46 PM
Hi guys, This is the car I found for parts

8E45E
03-05-2014, 07:17 PM
That one is way too nice to part out!! Restore them both so you have a "His'n'Her's" 24!

Craig

southbend
03-06-2014, 07:54 AM
That one is way too nice to part out!! Restore them both so you have a "His'n'Her's" 24!

Craig

I tend to agree with Craig. Especially since prewar Studebakers are so scarce, relatively speaking. But as the saying goes, "Your car. Your money."

hausdok
03-06-2014, 08:59 AM
It's just a special effects setting.

There is a guy who posts a lot of photos to my webzine using some kind of special hi-def program and he likes to use that special technique in his photos.

I forget what it's called. If you play around with the photo programs you got with your digital camera you might discover that you have the same program.