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bams50
04-14-2010, 10:18 PM
Am offering this one here again. Have had lots of interest but she still hasn't found a home. 6 auto, new brakes and lines (need finishing), all new exhaust, new tune-up parts, new front floor panels (uninstalled), 3 www tires. Clear title. Asking $900, will deliver to SB or anywhere along the way for expenses. If it needs delivery that will be my excuse to make SB;)

If interested, let me know ASAP. I will likely try it on eBay this weekend unless someone here wants it. Hope to see you all in SB![^]

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Parish, central NY 13131
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ChampTrucking
04-15-2010, 06:38 AM
you are killing me!

bams50
04-15-2010, 06:41 PM
Rich, don't be killed! Give in to your desires...... As the saying goes, "If you got an itch, scratch it!!":D

I'll even throw in a couple cases of Black and Tan...[:p];)

Robert (Bob) Andrews- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys)
Parish, central NY 13131
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Steve T
04-15-2010, 07:23 PM
Yes Rich...go for it...I've seen (and heard) your fire-breathing '61, am now picturing this '59 after a similar rework...mmmmm...

(Plus, if you go after it, I won't have to feel sorely-tempted by yet another '59 Lark!):D

S.

Nelsen Motorsports
04-15-2010, 07:47 PM
What a great project at a great price, but I aint gettin another Stude till my mine is done or legal and I have money or need something for college.

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Alex Nelsen, 15 year old Studebaker nut.
1954 Champion Coupe
Lizella, GA

silverhawk
04-15-2010, 07:56 PM
Yea, I think that way sometimes. It doesn't work to well for me, tell me how it does for you.[:I]:D If this car was a little closer, I'd go for it. I'm settling for talking my dad into a '63 standard.

Still rather have this though, good luck with the sale Mr.Andrews!!

BTW, what kind of tires are the WWWs?


quote:Originally posted by Nelsen Motorsports

What a great project at a great price, but I aint gettin another Stude till my mine is done or legal and I have money or need something for college.

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Alex Nelsen, 15 year old Studebaker nut.
1954 Champion Coupe
Lizella, GA


Dylan Wills
Everett, Wa.
http://i483.photobucket.com/albums/rr200/1961lark/My%201961%20studebaker%20lark/carpet008.jpg
'61 lark deluxe 4 door wagon

bams50
04-15-2010, 09:39 PM
I don't recall what the tires are, Dylan. It's over in one of my other buildings. I'll check and let you know!:)

Robert (Bob) Andrews- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys)
Parish, central NY 13131
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silverhawk
04-15-2010, 10:06 PM
Thanks! They look awfully good, and I'm just considering all my options before I buy a set.[^]


quote:Originally posted by bams50

I don't recall what the tires are, Dylan. It's over in one of my other buildings. I'll check and let you know!:)

Robert (Bob) Andrews- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys)
Parish, central NY 13131
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GOD BLESS AMERICA
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Dylan Wills
Everett, Wa.
http://i483.photobucket.com/albums/rr200/1961lark/My%201961%20studebaker%20lark/carpet008.jpg
'61 lark deluxe 4 door wagon

jackb
04-17-2010, 08:20 AM
not to be a shat, but are the tires ones that can find a matched 4th ??? Or are they older out of stamp production ? Check on the tire casing for the manuf. date....Also Bams and others...I've just been through this with my most recent purchase (63' Cruiser @ $800.) Probably a little nicer than this car, well maybe a little more....but really...what's a few hundred bucks when putting this car into the hands of a new owner ? Bams and all (last soap box today): Sell that car to a 16 year old kid for $400. and keep the hobbie going. Give him a membership grata and a bunch of parts (preferably presentable eye candy stuff, you know a mirror, hood ornament, anything to connect him/her quickly with the hobbie). Maybe even paste in one of the floors. This is a perfect example of how the Stude group can "invest" in the future...! We all see the prices languishing, and cars continuing to rot away...that's not going to change...OK..off my soap box....GL to your sale and new owner....may he/she be a young one...

Milaca
04-17-2010, 11:03 AM
Jack, how about you buy Bams car for $900 and then sell it to a kid for $400? ;)

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ChampTrucking
04-17-2010, 08:34 PM
Hey Bob.if you get a buyer,I will sell you the roof off the 61 four door I have real cheap for your Lark with the head trauma.Unless the whole car sells soon.Let me know if you have a buyer.

JDP
04-17-2010, 09:57 PM
quote:Originally posted by Milaca

Jack, how about you buy Bams car for $900 and then sell it to a kid for $400? ;)

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Now that's the way to make a good point. I sold the car to Bams for about that $400, after N8 and I did some work on her, he hauled it home and put some more time and money in it. He will probably be lucky to make 50 cents/hour for his trouble at $900.
I guess we need folks to save more Studebaker's that can afford to lose money on each one. If not, someone that will buy them once they are fixed up a bit, and immediately sell them at a loss to promote the hobby.
I for one learned to pass on many of the cheap cars after losing money in the effort.


JDP Maryland

bams50
04-18-2010, 08:52 AM
quote:Originally posted by Milaca

Jack, how about you buy Bams car for $900 and then sell it to a kid for $400? ;)


You beat me to it, Brent:) I'll work along with you on that, Jack;)

That's the thing- there are no kids around here that want one, except nephew Evyn, and he's got his eye on a different Stude;) If it doesn't sell it can stay in the building. I'm just paring down my 30 plus cars to about 3 or 4 (or 5;)). I'm about halfway there. I'm on the fence (cost) about SB, so I'm letting this car decide for me. I can always bring it out in the future, it's just prudent if I sell it. Part of the "change" economy[xx(]

Robert (Bob) Andrews- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys)
Parish, central NY 13131
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GOD BLESS AMERICA
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studegary
04-18-2010, 12:01 PM
quote:Originally posted by JDP
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Now that's the way to make a good point. I sold the car to Bams for about that $400, after N8 and I did some work on her, he hauled it home and put some more time and money in it. He will probably be lucky to make 50 cents/hour for his trouble at $900.
I guess we need folks to save more Studebaker's that can afford to lose money on each one. If not, someone that will buy them once they are fixed up a bit, and immediately sell them at a loss to promote the hobby.



JDP Maryland



I know what you mean John/JDP. I lost money on the last two Studebakers that I sold and that was without figuring anything for my time. These were vehicles that I did not drive and I lost thousands. I am not complaining about it, just reiterating facts of the market as presented by others. In the same time frame as those Studebakers, I sold a Honda Prelude SH at a profit. In years past, I have given cars to young people. I have also noticed that the cheaper the car the more that some people expect.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

SDC member since 1968
Studebaker enthusiast much longer

bams50
04-18-2010, 07:32 PM
quote:Originally posted by silverhawk

BTW, what kind of tires are the WWWs?


Here's what they say:

DENMAN Tire
6.70-15
4 ply polyester

Denman rubber mfg. co
Warren OH

Upon closer inspection they appear to be authentic old tires as opposed to newer repops. Couldn't find a date code on a quick look. They only show minor cracking, but obviously aren't recommended for driving, just lookin';)

Robert (Bob) Andrews- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys)
Parish, central NY 13131
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GOD BLESS AMERICA
Ephesians 6:10-17

jackb
04-19-2010, 08:03 AM
...I'll go a step further, with some rare exceptions...I've, if you will, lost money on almost everything related to Studebakers my whole life....! And done exactly what I've stated above, with young folks @ York and other flea markets on occasions. I can name a few kids from PA and SC/NC that I've given away loads of 59-60' Lark parts. By no means do I claim to be Mr. Moneybags...far from it. I can't get either of my 2 daughters interested beyond starting my cars and going for ice cream.....really wish there was a young kid (gal) locally that I could mentor around the garage that had the interest.....very tough equation given the times....

Milaca
04-19-2010, 02:21 PM
Too many kids today would rather play video games than use there mind & hands for something constructive.

63t-cab
04-19-2010, 07:26 PM
Well said Brent,thought I was the only one!

Joseph R. Zeiger

silverhawk
04-20-2010, 01:20 AM
Thanks!

BTW guys, do you guys mind if I put in a word from my generation, with what I observed? I've actually been working on a article for my chapters newsletter on this topic, so I do have some idea's on the matter if you guys want to hear them.:)


quote:Originally posted by bams50


quote:Originally posted by silverhawk

BTW, what kind of tires are the WWWs?


Here's what they say:

DENMAN Tire
6.70-15
4 ply polyester

Denman rubber mfg. co
Warren OH

Upon closer inspection they appear to be authentic old tires as opposed to newer repops. Couldn't find a date code on a quick look. They only show minor cracking, but obviously aren't recommended for driving, just lookin';)

Robert (Bob) Andrews- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys)
Parish, central NY 13131
http://www.patrioticon.org/images/flag1-1.gif
GOD BLESS AMERICA
Ephesians 6:10-17








Dylan Wills
Everett, Wa.
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'61 lark deluxe 4 door wagon

Milaca
04-20-2010, 10:51 AM
Go ahead Dylan, and don't hold back. :)

silverhawk
04-20-2010, 03:48 PM
Ok then. I thought it may be polite to ask since it was your guys conversation, LOL!

Anyways, I think a major portion of the lack of interest from my generation is induced from cost. Think about it; for a teenager, old cars aren't exactly cheap! (Except for the fun per mile factor) Then, even if they do land a old car; they are intimadated by the mechanics. They think the need a covered storage area, and it has to be a perfect car right off the bat.

There is other factors as well; like the lack of parents interested in cars, so that lack of interest passes on. Also another big one; right up with cost in my opinion; is teh current styles. Since all of our peers can't have a classic car, they spring for the newer cars. And then when they get more $$, it goes straight out the door for rice burner parts. :( See where I'm going? It's kinda like a chain of events building apon each other in most cases. I had one teen I was doing a lifeguarding class with see me working on a '61 pushbutton radio; tubes and all. He said I should sell it for 500 bucks on Ebay, slap in a newer radio, big speakers in the back, ect. As I said, thats the style; and I was looked down on abit because of it.

I've worked on a few of my closest friends for about 2 years now, whenever the conversation turned to cars. Lately, it seems as I got one of my buddy's interested! He's getting really interested in Stude's, and wants a '64 Cruiser or Daytona for his first car; or is interested in the earlier larks; just not as much. His dream car is a '64 Daytona 'vert. Hopefully, I'll be dragging him with me to chapter and regional events soon! I'm pretty stoked myself; finally have a car buddy to hang out with, and a stude one at that!! I'm helping where I can, trying to keep him encouraged, ect. He hopes to have a stude of his own in about a year, yahoo!

Ok, I'm off my soap box for awhile. Sorry for going abit off topic there at the end, as I said; I'm pretty darn excited about that.

Dylan Wills
Everett, Wa.
http://i483.photobucket.com/albums/rr200/1961lark/My%201961%20studebaker%20lark/carpet008.jpg
'61 lark deluxe 4 door wagon

lewdstude
04-20-2010, 04:14 PM
Not to take this thread O/T but just a comment to add to silverhawks post. Most "mature" guys like myself (53yrs) grew up driving cars with 4 wheel drums, non-power this and that, conventional ignition, etc. Todays crowd are used to todays technology and options. A lot of younger people don't enjoy the old car experience, let alone the cost to have it.

silverhawk
04-20-2010, 04:44 PM
I LOVE my manual everthing, and non power drums! Way way more than our '97 suburban.[xx(] I HATE that car, except that engine unfortunetly is very very nice under that gas pedal.....[B)]


quote:Originally posted by lewdstude

Not to take this thread O/T but just a comment to add to silverhawks post. Most "mature" guys like myself (53yrs) grew up driving cars with 4 wheel drums, non-power this and that, conventional ignition, etc. Todays crowd are used to todays technology and options. A lot of younger people don't enjoy the old car experience, let alone the cost to have it.


Dylan Wills
Everett, Wa.
http://i483.photobucket.com/albums/rr200/1961lark/My%201961%20studebaker%20lark/carpet008.jpg
'61 lark deluxe 4 door wagon

Milaca
04-20-2010, 05:42 PM
Dylan, perhaps it's worth starting a new thread about why young people are reluctant or not interested in getting into the old car/Studebaker hobby. The topic may receive more feedback if you do so.

As for Bams car, it looks well worth $900 and I would have been happy to drive it back in high school (I drove a $450 1963 Lark 4-door sedan, 6 cyl. auto, that I patched up and my uncle painted for me prior to graduating in 1990).

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Love birds...Red Hawks in mating season.
In the middle of Minnestudea

silverhawk
04-20-2010, 06:16 PM
Ooops, sorry 'bout that.[:I] Yes, when I got some time to type something up, I'll do that!:)

[quote]Originally posted by Milaca

Dylan, perhaps it's worth starting a new thread about why young people are reluctant or not interested in getting into the old car/Studebaker hobby. The topic may receive more feedback if you do so.



Dylan Wills
Everett, Wa.
http://i483.photobucket.com/albums/rr200/1961lark/My%201961%20studebaker%20lark/carpet008.jpg
'61 lark deluxe 4 door wagon

Steve T
04-20-2010, 06:50 PM
Dylan--

I'll probably weigh in when you start your "where are all the whippersnappers" thread:D too, but a couple observations from hereabouts...

You're right on of course about money (well, its absence) being an impediment. We have two situations similar to yours and your friend's locally: young (or not so young) guy has Stude, friend of same would like to acquire one too, but money's in the way and likely to remain so for a while...However that situation is easily placed on hold by having the Studeless enthusiast ride shotgun frequently...keeping the enthusiasm "warm" until the money finally arrives! Sad to say even a very modestly-priced Lark like Bob A's '59 can be too much of an investment in that circumstance. (I've seriously mulled over three different ones in the past six months myself--including Bob's--and decided each time to be wise rather than passionate!)

A different slant on the crowd about my age (44) and up: SDC Hamilton prez Barry Leppan ("studee64" on here) also runs the Burlington Lions cruise, which is in the process of switching locations this year. For 2010 the intention had been to limit participation to cars 1985 and older...until Barry talked with the local Mustang club (who style themselves The Old Farts, so you know they aren't teenagers!). The prez of the Mustang group was crestfallen when told about the 1985-and-earlier limitation: most of that group appreciates the creature comforts of the newer cars...and drives late-model retro-style Mustang GTs that wouldn't fit in at the cruise any more. (Result: the limitation on car age, for now anyway, is shelved. Incidentally Wednesday, May 19, the second week of the cruise, is Stude Night this year; location is Burlington Mall, Fairview at Guelph Line, Burlington ON.)

O/T: when did you paint your wagon's roof white? Looks terrific...and once again I'm made to think about doing the same to my blue '62.

S.

silverhawk
04-20-2010, 08:03 PM
Thanks for the input! I'll hopefully have the thread up shortly. Just sat down with time to write it! LOL!

Thanks for the compliment! I did the base coat about a month and a half ago. Wasn't sure how it was going to turn out, but I love it![8D]

Mr.Andrews, sorry for derailing your topic further![:I]


quote:Originally posted by Steve T

Dylan--

I'll probably weigh in when you start your "where are all the whippersnappers" thread:D too, but a couple observations from hereabouts...

You're right on of course about money (well, its absence) being an impediment. We have two situations similar to yours and your friend's locally: young (or not so young) guy has Stude, friend of same would like to acquire one too, but money's in the way and likely to remain so for a while...However that situation is easily placed on hold by having the Studeless enthusiast ride shotgun frequently...keeping the enthusiasm "warm" until the money finally arrives! Sad to say even a very modestly-priced Lark like Bob A's '59 can be too much of an investment in that circumstance. (I've seriously mulled over three different ones in the past six months myself--including Bob's--and decided each time to be wise rather than passionate!)

A different slant on the crowd about my age (44) and up: SDC Hamilton prez Barry Leppan ("studee64" on here) also runs the Burlington Lions cruise, which is in the process of switching locations this year. For 2010 the intention had been to limit participation to cars 1985 and older...until Barry talked with the local Mustang club (who style themselves The Old Farts, so you know they aren't teenagers!). The prez of the Mustang group was crestfallen when told about the 1985-and-earlier limitation: most of that group appreciates the creature comforts of the newer cars...and drives late-model retro-style Mustang GTs that wouldn't fit in at the cruise any more. (Result: the limitation on car age, for now anyway, is shelved. Incidentally Wednesday, May 19, the second week of the cruise, is Stude Night this year; location is Burlington Mall, Fairview at Guelph Line, Burlington ON.)

O/T: when did you paint your wagon's roof white? Looks terrific...and once again I'm made to think about doing the same to my blue '62.

S.


Dylan Wills
Everett, Wa.
http://i483.photobucket.com/albums/rr200/1961lark/My%201961%20studebaker%20lark/carpet008.jpg
'61 lark deluxe 4 door wagon

Steve T
04-20-2010, 08:49 PM
Dylan--

Actually we're still on topic, sort of...since Bob's Lark is one of the ones I've thought about buying and (since I cannot drive two of the things at once!) lending to a fellow enthusiast...but I've given up on that for the time being. I really can't in good conscience afford two Studes.

S.

silverhawk
04-21-2010, 12:26 AM
Oh, ok. I'm just trying not to tromp on any toes, LOL!

I know what you mean honestly. There is a few I'd like to get really bad, but when it comes down to it; where do they go? So, its a possiblity we might get one more (A rust free '63 standard 4 door [8D]), but that may be it for awhile.:([V][xx(][}:)]


quote:Originally posted by Steve T

Dylan--

Actually we're still on topic, sort of...since Bob's Lark is one of the ones I've thought about buying and (since I cannot drive two of the things at once!) lending to a fellow enthusiast...but I've given up on that for the time being. I really can't in good conscience afford two Studes.

S.


Dylan Wills
Everett, Wa.
http://i483.photobucket.com/albums/rr200/1961lark/My%201961%20studebaker%20lark/carpet008.jpg
'61 lark deluxe 4 door wagon