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sweetolbob
02-27-2010, 10:03 PM
I just checked the stats and by the data available on the site we have 4921 members. We have gained 98 members in the last 30 days of which 51 have posted.

If you take the time to look at most of the posts, they were questions about Studebakers that were addressed by the forum members with reasonable attempts to answer the posts. In most cases there was thanks for the help.

We are a large community of various interests with a Marque that is highly modified because the body style draws many non-traditional owners that tend to add there engines and running gear to our great style. I'm guilty of that in spades.

There are not many sites that have this level of participation that can maintain the decorum we have. A lot of Marque specific sites have many fewer members that don't have the the issues of diversity we have.

Our biggest problem is a tendency to react to most any negative post with a flurry of commentary both affirming and decrying the subject ad nausium.

But in retrospect, we in great numbers address issues and keep an orphan marque on the road better than most.

I've grown weary with watching the minutia dragging a great asset down.

Let's continue with our business and let the occasional diversion fade into the sunset.

Bob


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tbredehoft
02-27-2010, 10:10 PM
a tendency to react to most any negative post

Not unexpectedly, positive posts like this one languish.

I'm with you, Bob, we do a good job, answering both basic and highly technical questions without rancor, usually with thanks.

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Tom Bredehoft
'53 Commander Coupe (since 1959)
'55 President (6H Y6) State Sedan
....On the road, again....
'05 Legacy Ltd Wagon
All Indiana built cars

StudeRich
02-27-2010, 10:14 PM
Amen!

I see no reason to drag a good thing down because of a few issues or a few posters.

I think barnlark (Dave) said it best when he said in another post: "If you were in a room with 100 people, would you expect to get along and agree with them all?

Our Forum may not be perfect, but is at least as good, and in most cases much better than others out there, not that we need to be compared to anyone.

Concentrating on all of the good this forum has done is a much better thing to focus on. [^]

StudeRich

Chris_Dresbach
02-27-2010, 10:20 PM
Our forum is not perfect, but we are the best of the non perfects.[^]:D;)[:p][8D]

Chris Dresbach
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1940 Champion two door.
Parts of the 1952 Model N

Chris_Dresbach
02-27-2010, 10:21 PM
Our forum is not perfect, but we are the best of the non perfects.[^]:D;)[:p][8D]

Chris Dresbach
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1940 Champion two door.
Parts of the 1952 Model N

Chris_Dresbach
02-27-2010, 10:21 PM
Our forum is not perfect, but we are the best of the non perfects.[^]:D;)[:p][8D]

Chris Dresbach
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Studebaker%201/ModelN-1-1.jpghttp://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/40champion-1-1.jpghttp://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Studebaker%201/N10-1-1.jpg
1940 Champion two door.
Parts of the 1952 Model N

COMMANDERPINK1
02-27-2010, 10:41 PM
Chris whats up with the triple post.Ive notice you sometimes have doubles also. [?]:) Sometime when I have an item to post and a time out or error 500 comes up Ill look and see if it post and it usually does. Hopesthis helps

Tom

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Steve T
02-27-2010, 10:48 PM
Yeah, I've done that a good few times too. There's a delete option on each post...if I end up duplicating one I just delete the redundancy.

And yes, as I've said quite a few times, this forum rocks. (Example: a quick vector to some needed parts from a forum member, resulting in my short trip tomorrow to neighboring Waterdown to acquire said parts. Without the Forum and its observant members I'd have had nary a clue the stuff was available.)

Cheers

S.

woodysrods
02-27-2010, 10:51 PM
I agree that the forum is fun and rewarding if you take the time to ask questions. I loved the comment about keeping our "Orphan" marque alive and well. I must love orphans as I also have a Henry J in progress. I have won a "Best Orpan" Trophy at a Northwest Rod Run.
Keep the forum hopping!!
Good Roads.:):):)
Brian

Brian Woods
woodysrods@shaw.ca
1946 M Series (Shop Truck)
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tbredehoft
02-27-2010, 11:42 PM
There's an interesting thought. Our cars are "orphans" because their parents are gone, but they sure have a great family to support them.

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Tom Bredehoft
'53 Commander Coupe (since 1959)
'55 President (6H Y6) State Sedan
....On the road, again....
'05 Legacy Ltd Wagon
All Indiana built cars

JBOYLE
02-28-2010, 01:56 AM
I'm not sure it's as bad as all that.

Yes, we have the occasional troll who tries to pick fights.
And yes, sometimes guys will make [u]less than polite</u> comments about non-members cars they find on the web. But usually, its harmless car guy to car guy stuff.
If you customize a car and aren't prep[ared for everyone in t he world to love your "vision" I'd politely suggest you're far too senitive to be on the internet. Judging by the "rat rod" guys I see at some shows, I think they judge their success by how many other guys they can make mad.:D
And, I'd hope they they'd consider the source...I'd hope they'd expect members of the club to take some offense to modifing their "baby" (make).
In other words, if I paint a Rolls like a NASCAR racer, I'm gonna expect members of the Rolls Royce Owners Club not to be too enthuiastic about it. :D

I think members here are generally very careful [u]not</u> to go out of their way to critisize other members cars.
Sure there are disagreements, but I don't think anyone should take it too seriously.

A lot of the old time Stude guys here have expressed the opinion that they don't particulary care for the looks of the Avanti.
Okay, I own one and I'm in the middle of a (semi-high dollar) restoration of it, but their comments aren't about to drive me away from the forum or club.
Why?
Glad you asked. The benefits & fun far outweigh their opinions to me. Besides, I figure they have a differences in taste.
I don't expect EVBERYONE to love the Avanti as much as I do, anymore than I expect them to not drink because I don't or own a basset hound because I do.
The fact that they don't share my opinions doesn't bother me in the least.

After all, I probably wouldn't spend huge money restoring a GT or bulletnose. Yes, they're nice, but they're not what drives me wild. Everyone had different tastes.
I'm a grown up (okay, sort of:D) and accept it.

63 Avanti R1 2788
1914 Stutz Bearcat
(George Barris replica)

Washington State

Kurt
02-28-2010, 06:31 AM
I think this forum is great. Yes, I miss some of the old posters, and hopefully they will come back sometime. If not that's OK too. I personally have been trying to lurk less nad post more whenever I feel I have something relevant to add. I belong to the Buick V8 forum, and the vintage mustang forum, and everything on those forums is not all warm and fuzzy there either. All in all it's pretty good here. I do see things that bother me, and I have been "sucked in" to some of the political topics. Maybe we should start being more positive and less negative.

66 Commander R1 Clone
51 Commander 4dr

warrlaw1
02-28-2010, 07:38 AM
Thank you, Kurt.

HookedonStudies
02-28-2010, 09:01 AM
This forum is in the real world, unlike the "Stude-utopia" in my head. So I understand when sometimes the discussion runs off the tracks. I just try to remember the golden rule and the one my mother taught me about not saying anything if I can't say something nice. If those two fail me I apply the "better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open my mouth and remove all doubt rule".
The world of Studebaker is quite vast and some folks will look at things differently than I do. If they enjoy their favorite things as much as I do mine, they must be having a lot of fun!
I have enjoyed countless hours reading interesting thoughts and viewing some incredible pictures and you tube videos.

I agree with Bob, there is wayyy more good going on here than anything else.


Pat Casey
55 Commander
58 Transtar
62 GT Hawk
66 Cruiser
SDC Member since 1983

stall
02-28-2010, 09:30 AM
I'm fairly new to Studebaker's and this forum and I usually just read and lurk. I own just one Studebaker and three other brand-X collector cars.

That being said I have posted questions and a few comments that I thought advanced the conversation; in all of my posts I can say that I've been treated well. In fact I find this is the first forum I navagate to. If you want to see rough and tumble try the Corvette C-2 forum.

I guess the old kindergarden rule should always apply"

"PLAY NICE"

Just my thoughts, Murray

http://sites.google.com/site/intriguingautomotivehistories/

http://studebakerspeedster.blogspot.com/2008/12/studebakers-new-v-8.html

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jjones
02-28-2010, 09:49 AM
I will have to second Studerich's AMEN.

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Jeff Jones
Tucson Arizona
1947 M-5

PackardV8
02-28-2010, 12:12 PM
A decidedly unscientific analysis of the posts which have created most of the controversy here seem to be those where there was a car offered for sale with an inaccurate description. Sometimes the inaccuracies were simply ignorance or laziness on the part of the seller. Other times, there were probably deliberate misrepresentations. Anyone who has taken the trouble to learn the hot button buzzwords describing the rarest, most valuable Studebakers also knows when they legitimately pertain. In most states, willful misrepresentation to sell a car is a misdemeanor, if enough money is involved, a felony. It is not surprising those who take their Studes seriously will object to misrepresentation. Also, some want to protect less-knowledgeable buyers from mistakes.

Those posts lambasting/ridiculing modified/customized cars are the ones I suggest we should consider for some Sunday-soul-searching. Maybe we can begin these posts with "JMHO" (just my humble opinion) or "IMHO" (in my humble opinion) But always remember every homely kid is some mother's child and she loves him/her. Every custom/rod is someone's dream build. Maybe not your cup of tea, but be gentle in the critique. On the web, as in life, what goes around comes around.

thnx, jack vines

PackardV8

Avantidon
02-28-2010, 12:17 PM
Bob Shaw does a great job in monitoring things here. All of us tend to read posts in a different light which means simply we all have our opinions of what is said after we read it. Some I see i disagree with and some are way over the line in decency but overall this is a great place tl learn from others.

copcars1
02-28-2010, 08:04 PM
I'm new to this site and absolutely love it. I have to come here every day to see all the wonderful pictures and interesting posts! AT this time I dont have a Studebaker in my collection but I will eventually!!

cabrina
02-28-2010, 08:17 PM
I've always found this forum to be really informative, particulary on automotive trends and history. Richard Quinn's photos are amazing! Love the daily eye candy, too!

Any questions I have poised have been answered very politely though I'm sure most gearheads would wonder whether I know the difference between a box and open ended wrench. Since I haven't been able to find a "Studebaker Repair and Restoration for Dummies Manual" this is the BEST reference for getting my rusty bulletnose back on the road. Have meet several members of the forum. You couldn't ask for nicer people!

Cabrina Dieters
Murfreesboro TN
1950 Starlight Coupe
1961 Cruiser

Eugene
03-01-2010, 12:12 PM
Hi all, I am an addict to this forum.. I love to read and look at all of the old pictures that are posted here and the great info I have found on this forum most of all I love my Studebakers,My first 62 Lark Daytona, It is being built as an old gasser it's not what most of you want me to do but it's what I want and yes it is getting a 350 cid 375 HP a big no to most but sorry THAT IS MY BABBY and I have a 60 Lark that I bought as a roller it needs help no trans no motor needs lots of body work but I still love the car. I guess I just want to say my Studebakers are not original but they are still Studebakers and I will still be lurking around here and learning all I can. So lets all play nice and I myself like the GREAT people that are on this great Forum.

GTCruiser
03-01-2010, 01:35 PM
This forum is fantastic! Have posted aboutthree questions about my "new" Champ and the responses have been very helpful. I love it.

j.byrd
03-01-2010, 03:26 PM
This was my first forum to read- -didn't even know what to do and still don't want to post pictures because of the complicated sounding way we have to do it- - -BUT- - I sure do enjoy it and have had fun reading and posting my few word-only posts. Mr. Shaw was helpful to me getting started and I learn, remember, laugh, and sometimes my jaw drops, but besides the picture posting drama, I wouldn't change a thing. Especially enjoy the pictures-all of 'em. Studebaker people have been my friends since 1953 when Dad started working at dealerships. Thanks all, John

Clem64
03-01-2010, 10:01 PM
When it's all said and done, this is still a fun place to hang out. I think the vast majority of the nearly 5000 members of this forum probably think so too.

Dean




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StudeDave57
03-02-2010, 12:13 AM
Sounds like our Forum is in good hands.
I guess some of us need to scale back.

I'm in. [:0] ;)





StudeDave '57 [8D]
Ferndale, WA

'54 Commander Regal 4dr 'Ruby'
'57 Parkview 'Betsy' (she's a 2dr wagon)
'57 Commander DeLuxe 2dr 'Baby'
'57 Champion Custom 2dr 'Jewel'
'58 Packard sedan 'Cleo'
'65 Cruiser 'Sweet Pea'

Aussie Hawk
03-02-2010, 02:58 AM
When I first started to post in here, after quite a while of lurking, I didn't get much of a reponse. I even said to a fellow Stude owner, who is on here, I was going to quit. But them thought I'd jump in with both feet, and now the same guy says I'm addicted:D

I guess it's very much like life, and turning up at a club meeting. If you don't have your car to break the ice, you just have to persevere.

Matt
Brisbane
Australia

JRoberts
03-02-2010, 05:17 AM
This is a good place to be. Sometimes things get clouded with controversy, but it still it is the place to go for needed information, and Studebaker camaraderie. Through this forum I can truly say that I have friends throughout the world. Thanks folks.

Joe Roberts
'61 R1 Champ
'65 Cruiser
Editor of "The Down Easterner"
Eastern North Carolina Chapter

Flashback
03-02-2010, 11:24 AM
It's a GREAT forum, and thanks to many like you above, it
will continue to be. I likeit!!!!

Tex in Alabama
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raprice
03-02-2010, 06:57 PM
We have something really unique here. I've been on this forum for a number of years now and I love the good natured give-and-take that takes place on this great forum. I've been around for more years than I care to admit, and I've learned a great deal from so many of you who know a great deal more than I concerning mechanical stuff.
So, let's keep this good thing going.
One thing that I've observed over the years is that Studebaker folks are a veryk special group of people. I've enjoyed meeting so many good people at the Studebaker meets.
Rog

'59 Lark VI Regal Hardtop
Smithtown,NY
Long Island Studebaker Club