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Chris_Dresbach
02-24-2010, 11:04 PM
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/prototypes/1947wagonproto.jpg
1947 Loewy built prototype

Chris Dresbach
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Studebaker%201/ModelN-1-1.jpghttp://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/40champion-1-1.jpghttp://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Studebaker%201/N10-1-1.jpg
1940 Champion two door.
Parts of the 1952 Model N

rockne10
02-24-2010, 11:10 PM
Is this the woodie the SNM is supposed to be restoring?

Chris_Dresbach
02-24-2010, 11:16 PM
quote:Originally posted by rockne10

Is this the woodie the SNM is supposed to be restoring?

They are restoring a woodie[?]!

Chris Dresbach
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Studebaker%201/ModelN-1-1.jpghttp://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/40champion-1-1.jpghttp://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Studebaker%201/N10-1-1.jpg
1940 Champion two door.
Parts of the 1952 Model N

JBOYLE
02-24-2010, 11:18 PM
That window line looks just like the late Dodge Magnum.

63 Avanti R1 2788
1914 Stutz Bearcat
(George Barris replica)

Washington State

Studebaker Wheel
02-24-2010, 11:59 PM
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee285/studeq/newsgroup/47woodypc35x55copy.jpg?t=1267077438

Yes Chris, they have been in the process of restoring it since before you were born! Now at a wood shop in Ohio.

Richard Quinn
Editor emeritus: Antique Studebaker Review

Gary1953
02-25-2010, 12:07 AM
I think they are growing the trees for the wood to use in the restoration.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l269/gsandes50/116-1-1-1.jpg
Gary Sanders
Nixa, MO
President Toy Studebaker Collectors Club. Have an interest in Toy Studebakers? Contact me for details.

PlainBrownR2
02-25-2010, 12:26 AM
Of interest Chris, that Woody and the Model N you're after share the same origination point, being the Proving Grounds in that respect. I'll also mention that the Woody has been mentioned a few times here as well :D.

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Chris_Dresbach
02-25-2010, 12:32 AM
quote:Originally posted by PlainBrownR2

Of interest Chris, that Woody and the Model N you're after share the same origination point, being the Proving Grounds in that respect. I'll also mention that the Woody has been mentioned a few times here as well :D.

[IMG=left]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/55%20Studebaker%20Commander%20Streetrod%20Project/P1010531-1.jpg[/IMG=left]
[IMG=left]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/55%20Studebaker%20Commander%20Streetrod%20Project/P1010550-1.jpg[/IMG=left]
[IMG=right]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/Ex%20Studebaker%20Plant%20Locomotive/P1000578-1.jpg[/IMG=right]
[IMG=right]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/My%201964%20Studebaker%20Commander%20R2/P1010168.jpg[/IMG=right]



Are you sure you don't mean the plastic roof wagon[?] I can't tell if this is the same car[?]

Chris Dresbach
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Studebaker%201/ModelN-1-1.jpghttp://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/40champion-1-1.jpghttp://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Studebaker%201/N10-1-1.jpg
1940 Champion two door.
Parts of the 1952 Model N

PlainBrownR2
02-25-2010, 12:45 AM
This should help:

http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=32976&SearchTerms=woody,prototype

[IMG=left]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/55%20Studebaker%20Commander%20Streetrod%20Project/P1010531-1.jpg[/IMG=left]
[IMG=left]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/55%20Studebaker%20Commander%20Streetrod%20Project/P1010550-1.jpg[/IMG=left]
[IMG=right]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/Ex%20Studebaker%20Plant%20Locomotive/P1000578-1.jpg[/IMG=right]
[IMG=right]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/My%201964%20Studebaker%20Commander%20R2/P1010168.jpg[/IMG=right]

BobGlasscock
02-25-2010, 08:17 AM
The rear side windows are different on the two cars. But that prototype is one nice looking wagon!!

'50 Champion, 1 family owner
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg316/studebakerbob/SDC%20avatar/Studebakerstuff019.jpghttp://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg316/studebakerbob/SDC%20avatar/Studebakerstuff018.jpg

62champ
02-25-2010, 08:50 AM
quote:Originally posted by Gary1953

I think they are growing the trees for the wood to use in the restoration.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l269/gsandes50/116-1-1-1.jpg
Gary Sanders
Nixa, MO
President Toy Studebaker Collectors Club. Have an interest in Toy Studebakers? Contact me for details.


OR - maybe they are pruning and training the tree where they will only have to cut out the window holes and hollow it out when it is big enough...

I can remember seeing this car back in 1996 and it did not look too far from being finished then. Maybe they want to be sure the wood will not warp or anything?

Think Chris's picture is of the plastic roofed prototype.

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raprice
02-25-2010, 03:27 PM
Wasn't that wood body built by Cantrell for Studebaker?
Rog

'59 Lark VI Regal Hardtop
Smithtown,NY
Long Island Studebaker Club

Chris_Dresbach
02-25-2010, 04:07 PM
http://www.studebaker-info.org/TW/tw0473/tw0473p13.html
Check this out.:)

Chris Dresbach
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Studebaker%201/ModelN-1-1.jpghttp://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/40champion-1-1.jpghttp://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Studebaker%201/N10-1-1.jpg
1940 Champion two door.
Parts of the 1952 Model N

DieselJim
02-25-2010, 08:47 PM
The plastic roof one was a 2 door. I helped pick the roof up many years ago fron a club members body shop in Syracuse, In. It was stored in the building where we restored cars. Jim

rockne10
02-25-2010, 09:01 PM
I remember the woodie sitting at Corkins in Lewistown, Pa.

Chris_Dresbach
02-25-2010, 09:29 PM
quote:Originally posted by DieselJim

The plastic roof one was a 2 door. I helped pick the roof up many years ago fron a club members body shop in Syracuse, In. It was stored in the building where we restored cars. Jim

Iv'e seen a pic of the plastic roof wagon when they pulled it out of the proving ground. I thought it was a two door. Thanks!

Chris Dresbach
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Studebaker%201/ModelN-1-1.jpghttp://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/40champion-1-1.jpghttp://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Studebaker%201/N10-1-1.jpg
1940 Champion two door.
Parts of the 1952 Model N

Invalid User Name
02-26-2010, 04:39 AM
Does any one know what issue of TW had the woodie article. My curiosity is working now.

Doug
Venice, Florida
1950 Champion
9G F1
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m15/w4jdz/Stu-1.jpg

okc63avanti
02-26-2010, 05:42 AM
quote:Originally posted by Studebaker Wheel

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee285/studeq/newsgroup/47woodypc35x55copy.jpg?t=1267077438

Yes Chris, they have been in the process of restoring it since before you were born! Now at a wood shop in Ohio.

Richard Quinn
Editor emeritus: Antique Studebaker Review


Richard,

One of the unique things about the above picture to me is the use of the black sidewall tires with white "Firestone" lettering. It seems to me most older cars of the era used wide white walls. I'm curious did Studebaker have a preferred supplier of OEM tires? I think Firestone also supplied the Avanti tires. Harry Firestone and Henry Ford were close friends and their families spent a lot of time together and vacations as well. Was there any such connection between Studebaker and Firestone as well?

John

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63R-2386 under restoration & modification

Chris_Dresbach
02-26-2010, 07:44 AM
One of the unique things about the above picture to me is the use of the black sidewall tires with white "Firestone" lettering. It seems to me most older cars of the era used wide white walls. I'm curious did Studebaker have a preferred supplier of OEM tires? I think Firestone also supplied the Avanti tires. Harry Firestone and Henry Ford were close friends and their families spent a lot of time together and vacations as well. Was there any such connection between Studebaker and Firestone as well?

John

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63R-2386 under restoration & modification

[/quote]
I'm not sure if there was a connection, but typically the supplier of tires was the ceheapest at the time studebaker needed tires. I have looked at many factory photos and the majority of the cars have firestones, but some in different eras have good years. It changed every so often.

Chris Dresbach
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Studebaker%201/ModelN-1-1.jpghttp://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/40champion-1-1.jpghttp://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx323/chris_dresbach/Studebaker%201/N10-1-1.jpg
1940 Champion two door.
Parts of the 1952 Model N

Peanut
08-08-2010, 11:43 AM
[QUOTE]One of the unique things about the above picture to me is the use of the black sidewall tires with white "Firestone" lettering. It seems to me most older cars of the era used wide white walls. I'm curious did Studebaker have a preferred supplier of OEM tires? I think Firestone also supplied the Avanti tires. Harry Firestone and Henry Ford were close friends and their families spent a lot of time together and vacations as well. Was there any such connection between Studebaker and Firestone as well?
John


I wonder if a current rendition of those white-letter Firestone tires is being manufactured today? What a great "finishing touch" that would be!
~Matt Connor
Jefferson City, MO

jclary
08-08-2010, 12:01 PM
How about someone getting us an update on the progress of the restoration! I think the museum was campaigning it around to various meets at one time soliciting donations for the project. An update would be nice.:)

studeclunker
08-08-2010, 12:23 PM
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee285/studeq/newsgroup/47woodypc35x55copy.jpg?t=1267077438



Yes, they do seem to be taking their own sweet time. However, the restoration also seems to be costing considerably more than anyone guessed or expected. So, to be fair, the restorer can't be expected to work for free. One thing that would be fun and great, would be (if I had deeeep pockets) to see if the restorer would copy the wood parts from the wagon and help to reproduce it. In that way, several copies of the wagon could be produced and maybe, just maybe, the original could finally be completed.

The sad thing is that Studebaker, instead of producing the truely beautiful wagon above produced this:

http://oldcarandtruckpictures.com/Studebaker/1948StudebakerM5Woody.jpg

It's cute in a rather toybox like way... however not so elegant as the above wagon. Also, I'm sure it did'nt sell as well as the above would have. All the same, it does personify the 'Beach Wagon' look.

Does anyone notice the difference between the car that beauty is posing in on the test track and the B/W photo? Pay close attention to the back-side window and the post. The B/W wagon looks like a Hearse. The prototype looks like a really elegant wagon. What a pity. Here's another time when Studebaker dreamed up a really great car that would have sold well and instead produced an inferior car. Pity...

Sdude
08-09-2010, 10:18 AM
One thing that would be fun and great, would be (if I had deeeep pockets) to see if the restorer would copy the wood parts from the wagon and help to reproduce it. In that way, several copies of the wagon could be produced and maybe, just maybe, the original could finally be completed.



I'd love to see a bullet nose version. There is a bullet nose woody out there somewhere that was built using a Ford woody and appying a Stude front end. It was way cool.

8E45E
08-09-2010, 09:17 PM
I'd love to see a bullet nose version. There is a bullet nose woody out there somewhere that was built using a Ford woody and appying a Stude front end. It was way cool.

This one? Except it has a hand-made wood body, not from a Ford.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4098/4877961078_ae3f74cc99_b.jpg

Craig

Lothar
08-09-2010, 09:30 PM
That bullet-nose woodie is a beauty! Who does it belong to?
I ran this pic in another recent thread, but here it is again- a 1928 Studebaker Woodie!

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc126/lotharhp/DSCN7659.jpg

studeclunker
08-09-2010, 11:37 PM
It's been a while since that '51 Champion Woodie has been on here. It sure is a beauty. Even if they hod-rodded it.;):p

I dunno, Bess just might get some custom coachworks done when her rear fenders finally give out. I'll have to get some help though. I can do wood work, though not at that level.;) Best I could do for the coachbuilder is to help out (provided he'd let me).

clonelark
08-10-2010, 07:23 AM
The street rodded woodie is a 1950, not a 1951. Looks like it was made from a two door sedan, one like the one on Pickers.

studeclunker
08-10-2010, 12:06 PM
Wasn't that wood body built by Cantrell for Studebaker?
Rog



Yes. Cantrell is reputed to have built most of the Woodies of the forties and fifties. This is what Studebaker eventually produced (Cantrell body):

2612
Such a pity as the Lowey design was so much nicer.

Sdude
08-11-2010, 11:51 AM
This one? Except it has a hand-made wood body, not from a Ford.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4098/4877961078_ae3f74cc99_b.jpg

Craig

Nope.... The one I saw was white and I don't think it had Stude fenders on the back. The whole body was wood. And I'm pretty sure it was originally a shoebox Ford woody.

mbstude
08-11-2010, 11:57 AM
Hey Craig, do you have any pictures of the '59 Scotsman truck with the sidemount spare in the background??