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PackardV8
02-18-2010, 11:57 PM
Just another sign the apocalypse is upon us. For more than fifty years, most every US car had the brass banjo fittings on the back of the master cylinder and on the rear axle. Every parts store had a big Weatherhead cabinet filled with fittings and washers.

Yesterday, one of the fittings on my C-cab truck project had a leak. I went to every parts store and hose store in town. Some of the counter people didn't even know what I was asking for and none had either the fittings or the washers. A brake supply house had thousands of calipers, drums, cylinders, but said he didn't have a clue where to get the banjo fitting which makes it work.

thnx, jack vines

PackardV8

clonelark
02-19-2010, 02:14 AM
Might try Speedway at speedwaymotors.com
Found one under Hubs & brakes,page 123 in their 2010 Race & oval track master catalog #287.
It's a round type with a part # 617-4049 7/16 to AN-3 and another 617-4063 AN-4. $10.99/$9.99
If you have to have the old square type a salvage yard is your best bet.
Also a crush washer # 617-3642 3/8 or 10mm & 617-3513 7/16
If you go online search fittings.

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bams50
02-19-2010, 04:01 AM
Whatever happenedto banjo fittings?

Must have played out...........................

Robert (Bob) Andrews- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys)
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Invalid User Name
02-19-2010, 04:23 AM
I'm going to stay tuned in to this thread.

Doug
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Guido
02-19-2010, 06:16 AM
Try not to string us along on the outcome.....

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ChampTrucking
02-19-2010, 06:49 AM
Do I detect a twang of humor here?

barnlark
02-19-2010, 06:55 AM
I think they were playing bluegrass the last time I was at Summit. ;) At least they know what a banjo fitting is and list them with support parts. For a C-cab? That may be an actual Stude vendor packrat part...thankfully.

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Neal in NM
02-19-2010, 08:51 AM
Wish I had some snappy comeback[}:)]! I just picked up a new brake hose for my project and it had the banjo fitting crimped on one end. The donor vehicle is a '01 vintage, so they are still in use. The problem may be that the counter persons are literate when it comes to auto parts. It could also be that keeping a box of small parts is not fiscally sound to the bean counters because of the issues of pilfering and inventory. Neal

coyote
02-19-2010, 10:10 AM
I've bought them before from Inline Tube, and Classic Tube. They have all sorts of brake related hardware, not just the lines.

Steve
Minden, Nevada

1960 Hawk R2 4 speed project

PackardV8
02-19-2010, 10:16 AM
With bad puns like these, Bill Monroe is spinning in his grave and Bela Fleck is sending someone over to smack you guys.

Yes, there are plenty of aftermarket banjo fittings with the AN3 and AN4 male flare fittings. However, I did an extensive search and nowhere on line, Summit, Jegs, Speedway, Earls, did I find the old 1/8" female double flare double outlet brake line type.

Not saying it is not for sale somewhere, but a solid hour of web searching didn't find it for me. Appreciate anyone who does find it post a link here.

thnx jack vines

PackardV8

bob40
02-19-2010, 02:19 PM
Brake and equipment.(800) 233-4053

Toll free call and I'll bet they have what you need.

StudeRich
02-19-2010, 02:27 PM
S.I. Catalog, Pg. 236.

StudeRich

55s
02-19-2010, 04:58 PM
Everything from fittings, clips, stainless screws - almost every part - is getting very difficult to find. In addition, specialized tools are becoming harder to find.

Reasons:

(1) Getting the maximum amount of inventory turns per year. The philosophy is that if a product does not sell often, it should not be stocked. They *might* have a book where they can special order it for you. In other words, let your supplier stock the slow moving part.

(2) Why fix it with parts when you can buy a new one cheaply.

(3) Fewer people are capable of fixing anything.

raoul5788
02-19-2010, 05:03 PM
quote:Originally posted by PackardV8

With bad puns like these, Bill Monroe is spinning in his grave and Bela Fleck is sending someone over to smack you guys.


thnx jack vines

PackardV8


Not many in the same league with those two!


Chip
'63 Cruiser daily driver
'57 Packard wagon on the road!

52 Ragtop
02-19-2010, 08:04 PM
Autozone carries a few, but you must ask for them, they are behind the counter. NAPA also has them, (I buy mine thru NAPA) there ARE different lengths on the banjo bolts! Look at them carefully.

Jim

Thomas63R2
02-19-2010, 10:38 PM
Many long years ago I was a parts counterman, for ten years actually. There are lots of parts that I once remember as common, that are now difficult to find. I don't blame it on the bean counters per se; I just think it is an outgrowth of modern cars being more reliable, more well made, less leaks, etc. A lot of the parts that we lament for not being as easy to find, just don't need replacing as often as they once did. Also, the older cars that do have a need for these kinds of parts are hobby cars, rather than the modern daily drivers that the typical auto parts store targets.

Thomas

blue55
02-19-2010, 10:56 PM
i think it may be a result of the parts stores hiring idiots who don't know anything about old cars. I can't even go to my Local Napa store anymore, because they only have"catalog" parts people. "who made Studebaker?" is good clue . Now when i was doing the brakes and carburetor on my 51 Henry J, i had a lot of fun. They just gave me a catalog and went away, which made my life much easier. Aside from having an argument with a parts guy, who claimed there was no such thing as a Henry J. I had to drag him to the parking lot, and ask him what the hell I had driven to the store.He still claimed it was a weird looking Buick.

they just keep following me home