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cannonfodder
12-19-2009, 11:58 PM
I have a 59 Lark 8 automatic 2 Dr hardtop. Runs and drives. 4 rusty but repairable fenders. Appears to be original right down to the bias ply tires and hubcaps. Is it as worthless as I think? Appears $1000 would be all its worth?

Joe Banana

Chris_Dresbach
12-20-2009, 12:04 AM
Can you post some pics?

Chris Dresbach

cannonfodder
12-20-2009, 12:06 AM
For $1000 car why bother?

Joe Banana

cannonfodder
12-20-2009, 12:18 AM
It appears I am correct?


Joe Banana

mbstude
12-20-2009, 12:19 AM
Jack the price up. :)

Matthew Burnette
Your Friendly Stude Trim Bender
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cannonfodder
12-20-2009, 12:27 AM
I thought of that. If you can't dazzle them with your brillance Baffle them with your BS?

Joe Banana

StudeRich
12-20-2009, 12:38 AM
Well, you know what they say about Real Estate...location, Location, LOCATION! That does enter into it, but with Classic cars it's...
Condition, Condition, CONDITION! [^]

If you live in the rust belt and the floors, trunk, rocker panels, fenders are rotted through, is may not be worth even that. That is why we ask for pics, but if $1000.00 is not worth the effort to you then I guess you will still own it! [:0]

A Lark VIII 2 Dr. Hardtop, on the other hand does have the highest value of all '59 Studebakers. :)

StudeRich

cannonfodder
12-20-2009, 12:41 AM
Just wondering if it was worth bothering with or easier to bury it in the backyard

Joe Banana

cannonfodder
12-20-2009, 12:42 AM
How do I post a pic?


Joe Banana

jasontaub9
12-20-2009, 12:44 AM
It's worth what someone will pay for it, Are you really interested in Studebakers or just goofing

cannonfodder
12-20-2009, 12:46 AM
I want to know if this is worth anything or I may as well junk it and go on my way.

Joe Banana

cannonfodder
12-20-2009, 12:49 AM
Hate to see vintage iron crushed but Way too busy to fool with this for very long

Joe Banana

StudeRich
12-20-2009, 12:51 AM
The instructions are at the top of this General Discussion Page, but basically the short story is: you just have to load the pics from your computer to your Photo Bucket Site, and then paste the the img address in your post. :)

StudeRich

StudeDave57
12-20-2009, 01:00 AM
Show the Forum some pictures, and we'll be happy to let you know what it may (or may not) be worth. You never know till you try at least a little bit. ;) [^]

But until then... [:0] [B)] :( [V]

Hardtops are all the rage- to some folks!!!


StudeDave '57 [8D]
Ferndale, WA

'54 Commander Regal 4dr 'Ruby'
'57 Parkview 'Betsy' (she's a 2dr wagon)
'57 Commander DeLuxe 2dr 'Baby'
'57 Champion Custom 2dr 'Jewel'
'58 Packard sedan 'Cleo'
'65 Cruiser 'Sweet Pea'

Milaca
12-20-2009, 01:13 AM
Are the floors rusted through or soft? Is the trunk floor rusted through? What condition is the interior in? Brakes good? Bumpers look good? When was the last year it was licensed? Does it run & drive good or do the mechanicals need some improvement? Got a title?

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2671/4149448710_41d6dfe9bc_t.jpg
Lark ala mode
In the middle of Minnesota

bams50
12-20-2009, 05:25 AM
Mr. "Banana", I'm trying to figure out what's going on herehttp://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/confused/confused0024.gif

Are you trying to sell it? Looking for an appraisal? Trying to get somebody to tell you it's worthless so you can show it to a seller? Or just bored and trying to have some fun? Your approach makes no sense.

If you want to know the value of a car, give an accurate and unbiased description with several pictures showing the rusted areas, as well as the floors, trunk floor, and frame. If you're trying to sell, tell where exactly it is and how long it can stay before it has to move, and if the title's clear. We can definitely give you an estimate. Better yet, list it on eBay with a detailed description and several pictures; that will give you the true, actual market value for this point in time.

Your multiple, rapid-fire, late night comments give the impression that you're bored and just looking to stir something up on the internet. You write your post and can't wait 10 minutes before deciding you didn't get answered fast enough. You're asked for pictures but say 'for $1000 why bother?' (Answer: because your car may be worth $50, or $5,000, or anywhere in between). Maybe you think the enthusiasts (of which I am one) will get all freaked out and beg you to save a car that none of us has seen... not gonna happen[|)]

I may be wrong, and you are serious. If so, help us out. If you want to scrap it and are looking for encouragement, go for it. If you want to buy it or sell it, give us the info. If you want people to pile on an unknown car in unknown condition, not gonna happen.

At this point, with the info given, the answer is "who knows"?

Robert (Bob) Andrews- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys)
Parish, central NY 13131
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GOD BLESS AMERICA

Invalid User Name
12-20-2009, 06:19 AM
Bob, I agree - This whole thread seems suspect.


Doug
Venice, Florida
1950 Champion
9G F1
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ChampTrucking
12-20-2009, 07:42 AM
Where is the car? Pictures are a must just so we can see what you are talking about.

barnlark
12-20-2009, 08:07 AM
Name and area is posted on his profile; the warm, sunny, arid desert of British Columbia, Canada. ;) I sent an email to help with pictures. The posts are cryptic so it's hard to tell if we are talking about a car in actual possession (bury it in the back yard) or just looking at one for $1000, or casting a line to sell it. Why sign it Joe Banana if one's name is Murray unless just toying with monkeys? :D[:o)]

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hopsBB
12-20-2009, 08:16 AM
I agree something does seem a little odd with this post.

55s
12-20-2009, 08:21 AM
Let's give the person a little bit of space and time to post a picture. I just noticed my car pics have been dropped.

I believe the following generalities.

Generally, most Studebakers do not command as high a value as GM, Ford and Chrysler. I believe that this is simply because most persons want to relive the past and want a car of this vintage because their parents drove one. Most parents did not drive a Stude.
Another stike against Stude is that they "peaked" in the 50s before the boomers. Most boomers with money want late 60s cars. Tha being said, for some unknown reason, 55-57 Chevs are still worth more than Studes in general, although 53-55 and some specialty models have come up in price.

Alternately, if it is foreign exotic, it may command a good price.

We do have a recession, and prices are a little lower now.

So - the question is: Is $1,000 a fair price for a rusty 1959 Lark Hardtop? If its very rusty, that might be on the high end.

If the car was perfect, it might command a 15 - 20K price.
If the car is less than perfect, a restoration on such a project could cost $40K and up if someone else does it. There are many cars appearing on Ebay where the restoration costs have far exceeded any realizable value. So, a person buying it would have to put more money in it than it was worth, so it has to be something that they really want.

As a unique car, it may be worth more to you to have some fun with it, restore it and drive it. However, some trim parts, like the ones around the hardtop are hard to come by and may be worth money.

If you can, post some pics. Good luck.

Paul

r1lark
12-20-2009, 08:35 AM
He's been posting over on the Stude Newsgroup also: http://groups.google.com/group/alt.autos.studebaker/browse_thread/thread/11225a2ca212d21c#

Paul
Winston-Salem, NC
Visit The NEW Studebaker Skytop Registry website at: www.studebakerskytop.com

61Lark
12-20-2009, 10:28 AM
quote:Originally posted by r1lark

He's been posting over on the Stude Newsgroup also: http://groups.google.com/group/alt.autos.studebaker/browse_thread/thread/11225a2ca212d21c#

I'm surprised that the newsgroup is still going. I haven't thought about it probably 2 years.

December is a tough time to sell a car, especially right before Christmas.

Nick

candbstudebakers
12-20-2009, 12:55 PM
Remember back in Jan. when I was clearing out my yard I had 2 59 hard tops one a friend wanted so I gave it to him and the other sold to a club member for $100.00 I don't remember his name that was the time i sold all the 2 doors also and one 60 wagon nothing went over $300.00 and these were more than likely in better shape than something from the rust belt...worth what ever you can get for them and maybe less now with the times we are in.I would say scrap it and put it to sleep.....Bob

Bob Peterson / C & B Studebakers

Castro Valley, CA
canbstudebakers-
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buddymander
12-20-2009, 01:54 PM
IT's a V8 hardtop in the rust belt--go for $1500

fred k.
12-20-2009, 02:19 PM
Sounds like the guestion has been answered many differant times and ways and now the ball is in Mr.Banana's court.

fred

Roscomacaw
12-20-2009, 02:58 PM
Joe's provocative dialogue is like a mushy banana.

"Is it as worthless as I think?"

"For $1000 car why bother?"

"Just wondering if it was worth bothering with or easier to bury it in the backyard"

These kinds of replies smack of the "buy it or I'll crush it!" taunts that show up here on occassion.

Sure it has value. And to us CASO sorts, a thousand bucks AIN'T pocket change. But if Mr. Banana is accustomed to dealing in 57 Bel Air convertibles, or '65 GTOs, than at least we can understand his contempt for a lowly POS like a Lark hardtop.

He didn't just step off the (banana) boat. And I, for one, won't play along or weepingly lament the Lark's impending demise. I vote you bury it, Joe. It's your car after all.;)



http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/30906179/aview/58_Avatar.jpg
1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1963 Cruiser
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President two door

Anne F. Goodman
12-20-2009, 03:10 PM
oops slipped lost its A peal.

Mabel 1949 Champion
Hawk 1957 Silverhawk
Gus 1958 Transtar
The Prez 1955 President State
Blu 1957 Golden Hawk
Daisy 1954 Regal Commander Starlight Coupe
Fresno,Ca
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bams50
12-20-2009, 04:51 PM
quote:Originally posted by r1lark

He's been posting over on the Stude Newsgroup also: http://groups.google.com/group/alt.autos.studebaker/browse_thread/thread/11225a2ca212d21c#



Good info, Paul. The picture is clearer now: He's been trying to provoke over there for 2 weeks and nobody bit, so he came here and registered- yesterday- trying to provoke here with those comments. Add in the lack of response, and top it off with the names "cannonfodder" and "Joe Banana" and it all adds up to bored troll. Now I'm bored[|)]

Robert (Bob) Andrews- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys)
Parish, central NY 13131
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GOD BLESS AMERICA

Jerry Forrester
12-20-2009, 05:19 PM
quote:Originally posted by bams50

Mr. "Banana", I'm trying to figure out what's going on herehttp://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/confused/confused0024.gif

I wish I could write that eloquantly (sp).

...............................................

I am in the process of getting parts and pieces gathered up for the May 2010 South Bend Swap meet. How about you?

Jerry Forrester
Forrester's Chrome
Douglasville, Georgia
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for your shiny Stude stuff.
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buddymander
12-20-2009, 05:20 PM
I, for one, am outraged. Well, sorta. Wait..no, I guess not. Maybe justa little upset. That ain't right either. I hope he either finds a buyer or enjoys his Lark himself as much as possible. At least he's not trying to get me to send him money so my long lost nigerian uncle's will can be resolved and I get my twenty million dollars...If he wants to have a little fun running us around, I'm up for a little entertainment. Sometimes I just skim over posts, so I guess I musta missed the part that would have told me that he's a scammer, cuz I still think he's for real.

sweetolbob
12-20-2009, 05:29 PM
quote:
posted by BAMS50

The picture is clearer now: He's been trying to provoke over there for 2 weeks and nobody bit, so he came here and registered- yesterday- trying to provoke here with those comments.

Yah, luckily no response on this forum. By my count the "no responses" number about 24. Must be a slow day on the forum.;)

Bob

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StudeDave57
12-20-2009, 05:38 PM
Not that too much of this matters now, but~

quote:Originally posted by barnlark

Name and area is posted on his profile; the warm, sunny, arid desert of British Columbia, Canada. ;)
There is such a thing this far North. ;)

quote:Originally posted by candbstudebakers

Remember back in Jan. when I was clearing out my yard I had 2 59 hard tops one a friend wanted so I gave it to him and the other sold to a club member for $100.00 I don't remember his name that was the time i sold all the 2 doors also and one 60 wagon nothing went over $300.00 and these were more than likely in better shape than something from the rust belt... worth what ever you can get for them and maybe less now with the times we are in. I would say scrap it and put it to sleep..... Bob
Wasn't that a 'fire sale' of sorts due to loosing your storage space [?] [?] [?] My understanding was you sold 'em off cheap so they'd be saved rather then crushed.
I'm glad you took the time to do that, BTW. :) [^]

Mission, BC is hardly in the "Rust Belt"-
it's just over the Border from where I type this, in fact... [:0] ;)


StudeDave '57 [8D]

stude62
12-20-2009, 07:30 PM
For a $1,001 car you would?


quote:Originally posted by cannonfodder

For $1000 car why bother?

Joe Banana


Stu K

http://i883.photobucket.com/albums/ac35/stude62/thumb-2.jpg
'63 Lark Regal, "Miss Rose"

wolfie
12-21-2009, 08:24 AM
Sorry cannonfodder, I dont know what gets into these people sometimes but they are harmless.Let me take a moment to welcome you to the forum. You are correct,your Lark is absolutely worthless. If you will send me your direct contact info I will get you in touch with a guy that will remove it for you. He will be resonable,probably wont charge you over a couple hunnert bucks. That should save you some time/money versus digging a hole to bury it. Let me know, Steve

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BobGlasscock
12-21-2009, 12:02 PM
Geez, Steve, I'll offer to charge him $300. Not only is it worthless, it will be a headache during restoration.

'50 Champion, 1 family owner
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buddymander
12-21-2009, 12:22 PM
Hey guys doncha remember Stew Pidaso? We all had a good laff at that one. But the reality is that you guys are missing the obvious reason that we could be saving him a buncha money by taking that Lark off his hands. How's he gonna bury it in the backyard with alla those glaciers and igloos in the way? And then he hasta dig thru frozen tundra, and those eskimos don't work cheap.

BobGlasscock
12-21-2009, 12:52 PM
If he keeps posting long enough, global warming will solve that problem.

I'll raise my offer to charge up to $301.

'50 Champion, 1 family owner
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sals54
12-21-2009, 11:35 PM
This sounds a bit like a guy I met at a gas station. He knew way more about my car than I did. Then he got a big laugh about how he used to have a Hawk of some sort, but he drove it without oil till the engine blew up then left it on the side of the road for the junk man to take it. I told him that was pretty stupid, but it just made mine more rare and valuable....then I drove away.

sals54
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barnlark
12-22-2009, 12:05 AM
Originally posted by StudeDave57

Not that too much of this matters now, but~

quote:Originally posted by barnlark

Name and area is posted on his profile; the warm, sunny, arid desert of British Columbia, Canada. ;)
There is such a thing this far North. ;)


Since I've been up there, I'll have to call you on that one, Dave. Show me any of that in Mission on December 21st not rusting a '59 hardtop like it's Arizona and I'll shovel (or squeegy, depending on the day) your driveway. ;):D

Originally posted by buddymander

"Hey guys doncha remember Stew Pidaso? We all had a good laff at that one."

Not so fast...that guy actually had a '62 Cruiser and gave it away. StudeDave57 should know about that one. Now that was closer to a real desert, even if it was in Alhambra. [8D]

StudeDave57
12-22-2009, 01:09 AM
quote:Originally posted by barnlark
Since I've been up there, I'll have to call you on that one, Dave. Show me any of that in Mission on December 21st not rusting a '59 hardtop like it's Arizona and I'll shovel (or squeegy, depending on the day) your driveway. ;) :D
We have many different climates up here. I was talking this far North in general- not Mission.
But the weather there in Mission looks like this~
http://www.theweathernetwork.com/weather/CABC0190

Not too far away, also in BC~

"Thompson Okanagan- The climate of the Okanagan Valley is best defined as mild and continental. Summers are warm with hot days, cool nights, and fairly low humidity. Winters are moderate and are occasionally cold, with cool humid air and cloudy skies. In mid summer, approximately one third of the season's days are considered tropical in temperature (temperatures greater than 30 C or 85 F). Spring and fall seasons are equally pleasant. Kelowna has over 2,000 hours of sunshine annually, approximately 13 inches of rain a year and 41 inches of snow."

It's not as bad as folks think up here.
I found that (and more) here~

http://www.britishcolumbia.com/information/details.asp?id=16



quote:Originally posted by barnlark
Not so fast...that guy actually had a '62 Cruiser and gave it away. StudeDave57 should know about that one. Now that was closer to a real desert, even if it was in Alhambra. [8D]
I didn't know the name, or the whole story, but I do know that car.
I about cried when I saw it~ yes, it's THAT nice!!!
(and I HATE '62s...)

StudeDave '57 [8D]

blue55
12-27-2009, 02:48 PM
Its all about what you can get for them. I have never been able to get more than 500 for any of mine, and they've all been 53-55 c's, except for one 55 champion k body, which i did ok on. I'm still tryin to sell my 55 2 door sedan. You just gotta find someone who wants the car or parts. If your into it for the money, studes are the wrong cars, and now is the wrong time, with so many people offloading projects so they can survive.

they just keep following me home

Jack
12-27-2009, 04:37 PM
What keeps bringin this thread up?