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StreetRodConcepts
12-17-2009, 02:24 PM
We are currently working on a 53 Champion Hardtop. Project is in the final phases of completion, and we have come up on a couple missing/damaged parts.

Does anyone have a drivers/left side Window flipper in good-great condition?

Also, here is a real dilema;

Through my research, I have come to find that, the Deflector/Rear Bumper Gravel, part# 533578P (chassis parts catalog) is a totally different piece than the part used on the 54 models (part# 535135P.) Does anybody have the correct piece for the 53. From what I have read, the 54 deflector is about 5 1/2" tall and has an exhaust cutout in it, whereas the 53 is about 1 1/2" tall and can barely be seen, if at all.

I have located a piece at Classic Ent. labeled as "lower rear valence (gravel deflector)" From what I have seen, to me, this looks like the piece that came on the 54's...correct? or will it work on the 53.

We have made a few comfort changes on the car, but other than that, trying to keep as much original as possible, and dont want to make a "mistake" on this part.

Thank you for your thoughts and opinions.

Lane Johnson
Street Rod Concepts

Jeff_H
12-17-2009, 02:42 PM
The '53 part is pretty simple. You could make one with a wide enough sheet metal brake and some snips. Its all flat with only a bend in it as the pix below show. All it really does is hide the wiring for the tail lights and the license plate lights. Bolts to the rear X member on the frame with 3 bolts. The '54 and later ones are larger and painted body color with a notch (or 2 for duals) for the exhaust tail pipe.

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t5/ee-engineer/Leftendsmall.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t5/ee-engineer/Rightendsmall.jpg

Flashback
12-17-2009, 03:26 PM
I thjink a sedan is the same. If you have a parts cat.
check

Tex E. Grier
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn320/Flashback53/DSC_0045-3.jpg

StreetRodConcepts
12-17-2009, 04:37 PM
Thanks Jeff for the pics. That is exactly what I was looking for. I can fab one of those up in no time. I have had a couple people tell me to just put the 54 piece on there, which I am not to sure about. What is everyone elses opinion. I just dont want my customer to get "called out" at a meet or show for having the 54 valence on a 53.

tbredehoft
12-17-2009, 04:46 PM
If it's entered as a "Custom" there will be no authenticity deductions.

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Tom Bredehoft
'53 Commander Coupe (since 1959)
'55 President (6H Y6) State Sedan
....On the road, again....
'05 Legacy Ltd Wagon
All Indiana built cars

fstst56
12-17-2009, 04:47 PM
Thanks for the picture Jeff_H.

That's what the one on my '53 looks like.
I thought it was homemade and was going to try
to find a correct one. Guess it's correct after all.

Retired
12-17-2009, 04:56 PM
Look at photo. Can any one identify the purpose of the half round piece of steel ?. There is one on each frame rail.

Richard

Jeff_H
12-17-2009, 05:04 PM
quote:Can any one identify the purpose of the half round piece of steel ?.

Those are skid plates. Supposed to protect the gas tank and bottom of the bumper from hitting the road when the rear wheels drop into the gutter when driving out of a steep driveway onto the street.

Jeff in ND
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t5/ee-engineer/devilstowerthumbnail.jpg
'53 Champion Hardtop

sals54
12-17-2009, 05:12 PM
Those skid plates also act as a great deterrent for tailgaters. I was driving home from work many years ago when my 54 used to be sort of "jacked up" in the back. A Trans Am was following me real close. Suddenly traffic came to a sudden stop. He did not stop in time and nose-dived under me. The left skid plate cut a neat gash in his hood. No damage to my car. He was fit to be tied. I asked if he was OK, but he just cussed. We exchanged info and off we went. I never spent a dime to fix my car, but I'm sure his was in serious need of surgery.

sals54
http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm197/sals54/NewSignature.jpg

buddymander
12-17-2009, 07:46 PM
I thought those were to keep the front wheels from coming too far off the ground..

rockne10
12-17-2009, 08:36 PM
Lane,
I sand blasted my deflector and it was just starting to get some pin holes in it. Cut a new piece and angled it in the brake. Then I did the cut-outs and angled ends, drilled four holes and, voilà, perfect match. I still have the old one. I could take measurements.

StreetRodConcepts
12-18-2009, 07:56 AM
Rockne10,
Some dimensions would be great. All I really need is the layout of the piece. I can make the cutouts when I fit it to the car. Thank You

Lane

jimmijim8
12-18-2009, 08:08 AM
Use the top weather/window seals from a 62-63-64 Hawk snd eliminate the need for the flippers. jimmijim

Stude Junkie+++++++Do it right the f$$$$ Time. Never mind. Just do it right. When youre done your done. You'll know it.

studegary
12-18-2009, 12:24 PM
I would use the correct size piece on the rear of the 1953. Either get a used one or fabricate it.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

SDC member since 1968
Studebaker enthusiast much longer

StreetRodConcepts
12-18-2009, 04:47 PM
I agree with you gary, plus it is going to be a very easy piece to make.

S2DSteve
12-18-2009, 07:02 PM
I may be wrong, but I believe the "54" valence was used in later '53's. I've owned 3 different 53's with that style, so I'm guessing it was a mid-year change. It's certainly a better designed piece and available in reproduction, so I see no reason not to use it.

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u57/S2DSteve/Family12-1-2.jpg
Steve Hudson
The Dalles, Oregon
1949 "GMOBaker" 1-T Dually (workhorse)
1953 Commander Convertible (show & go)
1953 Champion Starliner (custom/rod project)
1954 Champion Coupe (daily driver)
1960 Hawk (future project?)

rockne10
12-19-2009, 10:58 AM
Length of long edge, 50"
Length of short edge, 43 1/4"
Flat width, 3" ( 2 1/8 from long edge to brake, 7/8 from short edge to brake) brake angle appears about 45degree
Cutouts on long edge start 2 3/4" from ends and are 2" long, 3/4" deep.
Three mounting holes centered on short edge, 13 1/2" center to center. 7/16 or 13/32 drill.

Hope that helps.

Brad Johnson
Pine Grove Mills, Pa.
http://s57.photobucket.com/albums/g233/rockne10/Rockne/th_Rocknegauges.jpg'33 Rockne 10, '51 Commander Starlight, '53 Commander Starlight "Désirée"

StreetRodConcepts
12-20-2009, 12:19 AM
Thanks Brad, you have been a big help. And thanks to everyone else.

Lane