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clonelark
12-14-2009, 05:45 AM
http://i47.tinypic.com/258vxn7.jpg
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If it wasn't for the last minute i'd never get anything done.
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Skip Lackie
12-14-2009, 08:06 AM
Yes. The older-style bed was optional in 1960 (and maybe 61?).

Skip Lackie
Washington DC

ST2DE5
12-14-2009, 08:10 AM
I thought they were P boxes

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2R5
12-14-2009, 08:15 AM
In 1960 they were all you could get , they were optional in '61.



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Avantidon
12-14-2009, 08:40 AM
As all have stated this bed was standard on T-Cabs through 01/23/61 when Studebaker introduced their new "Sweptside" pickup bed. After that date, the only available bed was the "Sweptsdie" bed. I have one of the less than 700 T-Cabs built in 1961 with the new "Sweptside" bed on it. Many have seen it.

Mark57
12-14-2009, 12:14 PM
P1 (Narrow box, external fenders) were an option on Champs through the 1962 model year. It is only the 8E series (63/64) where they are not listed as an option in the parts book, although I'm certain you could easily convert if you wanted to. ;):)

<h5>Mark
'57 Transtar Deluxe
Vancouver Island Chapter
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jlmccuan
12-14-2009, 04:10 PM
That's it !! I've been looking for a unique (as if racing a Stude isn't unique enough) race platform for an all out Stude doorslammer project. Now I just have to find one and build it. The bulk of the project is done, now all I lack is finishing, lol. Seriously, I want to build this soon. All help appreciated!!

Jim
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62champ
12-14-2009, 07:59 PM
Here is a shot of my 7E7 (62) built in South Bend in September of 1961 with the "old" P1 box. Enough "space" to use as a farm truck through the mid-1980s.

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<center>60S-W4 - 7E7-122
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studeclunker
12-14-2009, 08:50 PM
Love that blue Champ!:D Gee, The 'R' box... which year was that? I like how the 'P' type bed looked on the Champ much better than the 'Sweptside' did. The 'R' was it, like, the early fifties or late?

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62SY4
12-14-2009, 09:35 PM
I think the title is misleading, There is no R type box. There is the early box with external fenders used on the 2R,3R,and the E's. On the 2E,3E,4E & 5E series the P1 was the only box, it was slightly wider than the earlier, but otherwise similar box; IIRC 2" wider. Starting with the 6E, the P2 wide box became avaible also there was no P1 box on the 8E series.

Jon Krimm
1962 Lark Sedan
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1961 Champ

Transtar60
12-15-2009, 07:08 AM
Officially no P1 for 8E Champs but the local Stude dealer(Wolfe Motors) had an 8E12 with narrow box, side mounted spare, the T6 cab, 5spd OD, spotlight, Airconditioning, and some other options.

Unfortunately the truck and the dealer are long gone.

http://racingstudebakers.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10056/5E13%20Pic%203.JPG
3E38
4E2
4E28
5E13
7E7
8E7
8E12
8E28

59 Lark
etc

Avantidon
12-15-2009, 08:52 AM
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk161/avantidon/100_0056.jpg

Here is one of the first Spaceside box T-Cabs built after the installation of the Dodge purchased stamping equipment. That equipment was put into service on 01/23/61

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Mark57
12-15-2009, 10:43 AM
quote:Originally posted by Avantidon

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk161/avantidon/100_0056.jpg




Now that's EYE CANDY! [:p][8D]

<h5>Mark
'57 Transtar Deluxe
Vancouver Island Chapter
http://visdc.shawwebspace.ca/ </h5>

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Avantidon
12-15-2009, 11:32 AM
Thanks Mark. It's a pleasure to drive.

clonelark
12-15-2009, 11:39 AM
So what frame did Studebaker use for Champs, what was the wheelbase, could i put a champ cab on a 60 4 dr frame?

If it wasn't for the last minute i'd never get anything done.
http://i45.tinypic.com/68cxs3.jpg

Avantidon
12-15-2009, 12:54 PM
The frame underneath the T-Cab P/U's is essentially the same frame used under the M series trucks. As you know funds were tight at Studebaker so they did a lot more with less. This truck is a typical example of that. Total cost for the redesigned T-Cab less than $500K which included the purchase of the stamping equipment from Dodge/Chrysler which was approximately $130K. Overall cost really a great deal for an "ALL New" truck.

See you in the future as I write about our past

62champ
12-15-2009, 05:30 PM
quote:Originally posted by clonelark

So what frame did Studebaker use for Champs, what was the wheelbase, could i put a champ cab on a 60 4 dr frame?

If it wasn't for the last minute i'd never get anything done.
http://i45.tinypic.com/68cxs3.jpg


Short wheel base (6 foot bed) is 112"
Long wheel base (8 foot bed) is 122"

<center>60S-W4 - 7E7-122
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l163/62champ/car/th_DSC00096.jpghttp://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l163/62champ/car/62%20E7-122/th_DSC02236.jpg</center>

Mark57
12-15-2009, 08:11 PM
quote:Originally posted by clonelark

So what frame did Studebaker use for Champs, what was the wheelbase, could i put a champ cab on a 60 4 dr frame?



If you put a Champ cab on a Lark chassis, here's what you'd get! ;)

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x153/MarkH57/E9.jpg

<h5>Mark
'57 Transtar Deluxe
Vancouver Island Chapter
http://visdc.shawwebspace.ca/ </h5>

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x153/MarkH57/IMG_0196a.jpg

63t-cab
12-15-2009, 09:20 PM
62champ,your Champ is almost a twin to my 63 8E12 with the exception of mine haveing the P2 bed,oh and chrome bumpers.I actually like your bed better!!!

Joseph R. Zeiger

clonelark
12-16-2009, 08:31 AM
Those are all sweet trucks, may have to get me one as a beater, guy always needs a pickup.

If it wasn't for the last minute i'd never get anything done.
http://i45.tinypic.com/68cxs3.jpg

Avantidon
12-16-2009, 09:13 AM
I love my truck and keep thinking of getting another one. it goes to lots of shows and cruises and is really just a plain jane model 6E.