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JDP
11-16-2009, 08:39 PM
Just sold a nice Lark on ebay, and yet another bidder finds out he has a terminal illness moments after winning the auction. It seems odd that it happens so often, either the bidder get really sick, dies or has a death in the family just after winning. I hate to be a skeptic, but you wonder how many are buyer remorse as opposed to a real family tragedy.
I gave the guy a few days to ponder his options before I relist the car.

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JDP/Maryland

Eugene
11-16-2009, 09:06 PM
Hi I know what your saying I don't sell to many cars on ebay but we sell lots of items and this week we have had two buyers back out one has no money I ask then why bid...the other bids and wins the bid and then ask a????? on how to put thing on ebay pay me then we can talk still has not payed what the ----.. Good luck my friend.. Gene.

N8N
11-16-2009, 09:07 PM
That's still a nice looking car... but I need another car like hole in head at the moment.

Actually - I *do* need a cheap driver, but I'm working on a deal to get one of the cars on my "short list" so I'm saving my ducats at the moment...

nate

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bige
11-16-2009, 09:16 PM
I've noticed that along with illness and death in the immediate family it affects employment also...although maybe all the people that lost their jobs after they won my auctions got fired for being on ebay at work.

ErnieR

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Mark57
11-17-2009, 12:03 AM
Seems like a fair price for that car to me... now if I had storage and a few extra bucks. ;)

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Chris Pile
11-17-2009, 04:42 AM
Nice car, and great auction page as usual, John.
Too bad about the bidder. I'm sure as many deals as you've had, once in awhile you'll get snubbed. Good luck with all your future transactions.

Chris Pile
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jimmijim8
11-17-2009, 06:51 AM
I hate when that happens. As far as selling the car, you know, no problem. Just a slight delay. Might be more or a little less next time. That's all. Too bad about the guys illness. I've got some money burning a hole in my pocket right now but I think I am going to remain a 1 Stude person. 'Sides that. I'm not able to drive stick. That's a nice car John. Should be more interest in a nice car for cheap rather than someone throwing money away on something that may never be right. Buy them cheaper than building them. I always say, now that I learned the hard way. I wouldn't listen to my dad when he said. "you don't want {THAT} car." Most people are challenged by other things more important than fixing up old cars but just don't have priorities in order. Some enjoy the challenge of resurrecting a poor specimine. Ok by me. Some folks have more time and money on hand than others. Some have to learn about owning a nice piece the hard and expensive way. Some want to just drive and enjoy a nice car and make modest monthly payments. Some want to bust butt and pay a bit at a time. Some just can't get a loan. If money is not really a big obstacle just buy within reason and if you tire of or have to sell it, there will be someone to step up to the plate. Don't plan on a windfall. jimmijim

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studegary
11-17-2009, 08:19 PM
The most recent car that I sold on eBay (not a Studebaker), the guy that was the highest bidder near the auction's end wrote and said that someone got his password and bid on his account and he wanted to withdraw his bid. The guy had just joined eBay during my auction. I told him to take it up with eBay. Luckily, another guy had a snipe bid set that won the auction and he arrived at my home with cash and drove off in the car. He later wrote about how good the car was, but never gave me a feedback.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

SDC member since 1968
Studebaker enthusiast much longer

53k
11-18-2009, 07:54 AM
The eBay bidder who "won" the used R-4 several months ago backed out on the seller- claimed his wife threatened to divorce him if he bought it. A few weeks later he was the high bidder on my R-4.




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ozarkman
11-18-2009, 09:04 AM
Need to add a disclaimer in the auction...Do not bid if you may become terminally ill, or if your wife will divorce you if you win this auction.

From deep in the Ozarks...

Fred

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Roscomacaw
11-18-2009, 10:56 AM
Good idea, Fred. Maybe it should also read: PLEASE - check the health of all your family members and check with your employer as to your job security before placing a bid!

JDP, I well remember the guy that won that 61 Lark we put up. It took less than half an hour to induce his dad to have a heart attack! Probably, dad was an ardent Ford man and couldn't deal with his son owning a lowly Studebaker.[xx(]

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1963 Cruiser
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President two door

JDP
11-18-2009, 11:08 AM
quote:Originally posted by Mr.Biggs

Good idea, Fred. Maybe it should also read: PLEASE - check the health of all your family members and check with your employer as to your job security before placing a bid!

JDP, I well remember the guy that won that 61 Lark we put up. It took less than half an hour to induce his dad to have a heart attack! Probably, dad was an ardent Ford man and couldn't deal with his son owning a lowly Studebaker.[xx(]

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1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1963 Cruiser
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President two door




Yea, he had just hit the bid button when dad had to be rushed off. So many bidders have personal or family health issues, or lose their jobs instantly after winning a auction, it's scary.:)

JDP/Maryland

JBOYLE
11-18-2009, 11:40 AM
Luckily I can't vouch for serious health issues...but I think we can agree that Studebakers may be hazardous to your MENTAL health.

I know I'm nuts. Just this morning I got up extra early to call parts vendors back east before I went to work. All for a nearly 50 year-old car the price guides say I'll never get my money back on.

63 Avanti R1 2788
1914 Stutz Bearcat
(George Barris replica)

Washington State

Dick Steinkamp
11-18-2009, 05:11 PM
John,
Have you made a second chance offer to the #2 guy? Looks like his last bid was $1 under your reserve and he was interested enough to bid several times on it.

Dick Steinkamp
Bellingham, WA
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Dick Steinkamp
11-18-2009, 06:51 PM
quote:Originally posted by Dick Steinkamp

John,
Have you made a second chance offer to the #2 guy? Looks like his last bid was $1 under your reserve and he was interested enough to bid several times on it.

In fact, the ONLY things he's bid on in the last month are your cars. I think he would jump at a second chance offer.

Dick Steinkamp
Bellingham, WA
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Dick Steinkamp
Bellingham, WA
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JDP
11-18-2009, 07:01 PM
quote:Originally posted by Dick Steinkamp

John,
Have you made a second chance offer to the #2 guy? Looks like his last bid was $1 under your reserve and he was interested enough to bid several times on it.

Dick Steinkamp
Bellingham, WA
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I have a $3500 offer, and the winner is still pondering if he wants a Studebaker with his sudden illness. We're installing a new windshield and will probably play with it before relisting if he does finally back out.

JDP/Maryland

valleyguy
11-18-2009, 07:08 PM
Two words: Buyers remorse. Also prevalent in the real estate
business.

Joe D.

bams50
11-18-2009, 07:13 PM
Very sad indeed, but you always have to wonder if it's really true.

I'd be inclined to say something like "Well, at least you'll have your new Studebaker to enjoy while you work towards a cure!":)

Robert (Bob) Andrews- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys)
Parish, central NY 13131
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GOD BLESS AMERICA

Johnnywiffer
11-18-2009, 07:36 PM
quote:Originally posted by bams50

I'd be inclined to say something like "Well, at least you'll have your new Studebaker to enjoy while you work towards a cure!":)
I think that is called "Positive Thinking" or "If ya got a lemon, make lemonade" or "Always look for the silver lining."

Too bad more people don't do it! [8D]

John

JDP
11-18-2009, 07:38 PM
quote:Originally posted by bams50

Very sad indeed, but you always have to wonder if it's really true.

I'd be inclined to say something like "Well, at least you'll have your new Studebaker to enjoy while you work towards a cure!":)

Robert (Bob) Andrews- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys)
Parish, central NY 13131
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GOD BLESS AMERICA




I don't know if it's true either, but I just got a call that he was mailing a check for the car. I did not pursue the health issue after hearing that. He claims his wife said "You aren't dead yet" and that sounds like a wife's comment, so maybe he's legit.

JDP/Maryland

ozarkman
11-18-2009, 10:14 PM
quote:Originally posted by JDP


quote:Originally posted by bams50

Very sad indeed, but you always have to wonder if it's really true.

I'd be inclined to say something like "Well, at least you'll have your new Studebaker to enjoy while you work towards a cure!":)

Robert (Bob) Andrews- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys)
Parish, central NY 13131
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GOD BLESS AMERICA




I don't know if it's true either, but I just got a call that he was mailing a check for the car. I did not pursue the health issue after hearing that. He claims his wife said "You aren't dead yet" and that sounds like a wife's comment, so maybe he's legit.

JDP/Maryland



Well after the check clears...introduce him to the forum. Then he can see what a bunch of raving maniacs we really are!:D

From deep in the Ozarks...

Fred

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bams50
11-19-2009, 06:25 PM
quote:Originally posted by Johnnywiffer


quote:Originally posted by bams50

I'd be inclined to say something like "Well, at least you'll have your new Studebaker to enjoy while you work towards a cure!":)
I think that is called "Positive Thinking" or "If ya got a lemon, make lemonade" or "Always look for the silver lining."

Too bad more people don't do it! [8D]

John


Amen to that![8D]

Robert (Bob) Andrews- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys)
Parish, central NY 13131
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GOD BLESS AMERICA

studegary
11-20-2009, 01:45 PM
This death of a relative syndrome is not unique to the car world. When my greatniece attended my father's, her greatgrandfather's, funeral, her employer, a major known corporation, asked for documentation. It seems like they have been taken many times. She provided a copy of the obituary and a statement from the funeral home that she was there. I felt strange asking the funeral director for this and he said that it is common and that they have a form letter for just this purpose. The World is a changing!

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

SDC member since 1968
Studebaker enthusiast much longer

8E45E
11-20-2009, 01:54 PM
quote:Originally posted by JDP

Just sold a nice Lark on ebay, and yet another bidder finds out he has a terminal illness moments after winning the auction. It seems odd that it happens so often, either the bidder get really sick, dies or has a death in the family just after winning.


Hmmmm...kind of like the disproportionate amount of Convenience Store clerks who've won the 'big one' in the lottery???

Craig

aenthal
11-21-2009, 08:44 PM
If we just got rid of eBay, life expectancy would shoot up instantly.
Everyone knows that it is winning on eBay that causes cancer, flu, ALS, deaths among relatives, and probably also freckles. It's not germs. It's not smoking. It is winning on eBay.
Why waste all the time researching drugs and protocols when eliminating eBay will end all of the sudden medical problems?
Compare how many eBay losers get these diseases with the percentage of winners and you will see what I mean.

edpjr
11-21-2009, 10:28 PM
Sh*t happens. Especially to older folks, so there may be some truth to these sudden illness claims. I can attest to the fact that within 3-4 months of buying my last Studebaker, my doctor and a local radiologist diagnosed me with Stage III Lymphoma. At that point, my interest in work, business, eBay and Studebakers took a nose dive. I spent two months going back and forth to the Mayo Clinic in Jacksonville, Fl for diagnostics, tests, surgery, bone marrow withdrawal, etc. Through a sheer miracle provided by divine providence, and against 99-1 odds, the cancer diagnosis was reversed and it was determined that I had a rare non-malignant pulmonary illness that can be successfully treated and carries a survival rate of greater than 96%. Strange things and miracles do happen. I hope the Studebakers didn't have anything to do with it. I really think they are more hazardous to one's wallet and sanity....[:p]

edp/NC
'63 Avanti
'66 Commander

52hawk
11-22-2009, 10:02 AM
I sold a '52 parts car 3 times on ebay. The first buyer vanished from the face of the earth!


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