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Bullet
09-12-2009, 03:03 PM
Whatever happened to the Woody that was being or going to be restored at the National Studebaker Museum, the one that they saved from the Provinng Grounds bone yard? It was written up in T.W. and there were pictures and the thought at the time was to have it ready before the S.B. International Meet a couple years ago. Haven't heard a thing about it recently.



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mbstude
09-12-2009, 03:07 PM
It's still in a restoration shop in Ohio. Hasn't changed a bit over the last 10+ years.

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I still want to know what happened to the Fiberglass Wagon.


Matthew Burnette
Hazlehurst, GA

silverhawk
09-12-2009, 03:13 PM
Same here, it would be a really cool one, after it was rebuilt. Why has this wagon been allowed to sit?

Dylan Wills

'61 lark deluxe 4 door wagon

studegary
09-12-2009, 03:40 PM
I seem to remember the remains of the fibreglass wagon as being in Max C's shop in Pennsylvaia.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

SDC member since 1968
Studebaker enthusiast much longer

Roscomacaw
09-12-2009, 03:48 PM
Like Dylan, I'd like to know why it's in limbo???[B)]

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1963 Cruiser
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President two door

mbstude
09-12-2009, 03:53 PM
quote:Originally posted by studegary

I seem to remember the remains of the fibreglass wagon as being in Max C's shop in Pennsylvaia.



I think that was the Woody. It sat in Max's shop for years.

If the fiberglass wagon is still around, I'd be really shocked.

Matthew Burnette
Hazlehurst, GA

studegary
09-12-2009, 04:12 PM
quote:Originally posted by mbstude


quote:Originally posted by studegary

I seem to remember the remains of the fibreglass wagon as being in Max C's shop in Pennsylvaia.



I think that was the Woody. It sat in Max's shop for years.

If the fiberglass wagon is still around, I'd be really shocked.

Matthew Burnette
Hazlehurst, GA




Yes, I know that the woody rested there for awhile. My memory is that they were BOTH there.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

SDC member since 1968
Studebaker enthusiast much longer

Retired
09-12-2009, 04:28 PM
For latest update: Check with Phill Brown. Stude67@aol.com

Last word I received, a year ago, from Phill is that the "Woody" is being worked on between other jobs at the wood workers shop. This arrangement, agreed to by both parties, included a provision for a reduced labor cost.

Richard

rockne10
09-12-2009, 09:24 PM
Donations to the SNM are still needed to assist in the completion of this project.
Will yours be the dollar that puts it on display?

Roscomacaw
09-12-2009, 09:31 PM
Right now I'm spending more than I have on my own wagon![xx(]

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1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1963 Cruiser
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President two door

unclemiltie
09-12-2009, 09:38 PM
Our local Mo-Ill Chapter donated $1800 to this project many years back. Earle Haley presented the check and he has been gone for some time now. It was what we had made at the 81 National Meet. I lot of the old timers in this chapter whom really wanted to see this car completed are no longer with us.

Milt

1947 Champion (owned since 1967)
1961 Hawk
1964 Convertable
1967 Avanti
1961 Lark 2 door
1950 Commander Starlight

mbstude
09-12-2009, 10:06 PM
Milt, I know of several similar stories regarding this car. [V] A bunch of money has been donated for this thing's restoration. And they still need more cash? Sheesh...

Matthew Burnette
Hazlehurst, GA

studeclunker
09-12-2009, 10:58 PM
I'm not at all surprised that,"A bunch of money has been donated for this thing's restoration. And they still need more cash," to complete the project. think of it this way; a seriously rusted out metal car can cost fifty thousand to restore. This car is about 50/50 wood. Not only that, they are having to fabricate the parts from scratch. That's time consuming. Time is money.

See where I'm going with this?

Now, I don't know what year the Woody is. It looks to be an early '50s or late '40s. Even so, let's say it's a '56 just for argument's sake. Bess, my '56 needs a lot of work. If I sent her out to a shop to have the rust in her floors, fenders (front and rear), and dents hammered out. Taken to bits with a frame-off restoration (like the Woody is getting) it would cost between thirty and forty thousand. Well worth it in my opinon.[^] However, though the old girl has rust problems, she just needs bits repaired, not fabricated from scratch from top quality materials. The Woody, on the other hand, does need bits fabricated from scratch and they'd better be top quality as the car won't hold up otherwise. What I've walked all round the park for; is to point out that the Woody is going to be very expensive to fix up. Much, much more than a normal (metal bodied) example of the same kind of car. It's one reason there are so few left of any make or model.;)

So, if anyone is in a hurry to see this car finished, then start donating money so that they can do so with full labour charges.;)

Anyone care to write the Museum to inquire about the status?

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kurtruk
09-13-2009, 12:35 AM
The Woody is a 1947 Champion--prototype.

Looks to me like all the difficult wood pieces are completed.

Yes, it is sad that so many old timers have passed-on while this thing sits un-completed. I'm sure many gave to this cause.

KURTRUK
(read it backwards)


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bridgegaurd
09-13-2009, 05:59 AM
quote:Originally posted by rockne10

Donations to the SNM are still needed to assist in the completion of this project.
Will yours be the dollar that puts it on display?
I like many others would like to see this one completed. Just as much as i would like to see the desert car brought back to life in some fashion.

So my question is:
Is there a specific fund that one can donate to, to insure that the money goe's towards this car only.

barnlark
09-13-2009, 09:11 AM
I'd like to know what the total amount donated is to this point. It hasn't gotten cheaper to get this done as the years go on, that's for sure. Has the money been completely drained at this point, or is it earning interest while the woodworker gets around to finishing it? Sounds like a lot of hard earned cash has already been donated and an update on where the project is at this point would be nice. Sometimes just throwing money at it doesn't equal a finished project. Is it time to get to it, or just money slowing it up? How long has this been going on? Also, are those the most up to date pictures?

Woodworking on a car is a very long process, if that's the slow up. Just having it fitted on the car doesn't mean it's anywhere near completion. I've worked on a '53 Roadmaster Woody...it's painstakingly slow to get the wood finished right. A quality wood worker working on it all day should be much faster. We have plenty of good body & finish guys in this Club who can get the rest done quickly, I would think.

Warren Webb
09-14-2009, 01:16 AM
I'm with Dave on this. Seems like its been almost 30 years now based on Milt's statement of the $1800. donation in 1981 & how about the additional donations from membership renewals, has a total received ever been published? I can understand it being painstaking, but seriously, sitting for the past 10 years with little or nothing done is shamefull.

60 Lark convertible
61 Champ
62 Daytona convertible
63 G.T. R-2,4 speed
63 Avanti (2)
66 Daytona Sport Sedan

studeclunker
09-14-2009, 01:47 AM
Does anyone know who the curator at the Museum is? This person might know the status of the car. Perhaps someone find out this person's e-mail and we can all send one.;)

Then again, if they want to raise money, it might be wise to set up the car in the museum with a collection box.:)

Matt, did'nt I hear you're going to be writing for T.W.? Well, here's an idea for an article! It would reach the entire membership instead of the tiny portion who frequent this board. One thing that would be wise, would be to include the name and address of whom at the museum is responsible for this project. That way, we as a club, can contact this person and encourage progress in whatever way each individual is able.

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K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
Ron Smith
Where the heck is Lewiston, CA?

clonelark
09-14-2009, 02:37 AM
If it was sent to a woodworker to save $$$ at his pace, His pace is out of line. It would be cheaper to send it to someone who would sign a contract to finish the car at a set price. Lots of people deserve to see this car finished in thier lifetime. Times ticking away.

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Retired
09-14-2009, 04:20 AM
Phil Brown, Stude67@aol.com
is the SDC/Museum point of contact on the "Woody " project.



Richard

bams50
09-14-2009, 05:29 AM
Clonelark may have the right idea. Instead of it being a fill-in somewhere to save money, what about getting estimates from shops for a full-time resto, get those numbers, and see about raising the money for that pace? I am very hesitant to donate any money to a vague, open-ended project. As Dave points out, the hourly costs and material costs are going up all the time. Might be something to think about.

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Parish, central NY 13131
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ChampTrucking
09-14-2009, 06:56 AM
I sent a link of this post to Ms.Bonham @ The Museum.

barnlark
09-14-2009, 07:20 AM
Thanks, Rich. I think we'd all like to help, but that would be for the Woody's actual completion with an honest plan, not an open ended account. Just my opinion, though.