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edpjr
09-11-2009, 10:10 PM
This car belongs to my youngest brother Mark. I think it could've safely gone to the junkyard as a parts car, but he was intent on fixing it up. It has the 283 CID V-8 2bbl with auto transmission. First, he had to get the gas tank rotted out, replace the fuel lines, fuel pump and rebuild the carb. Then it required full tune-up parts and all fluid changes. Next, the brakes had to be completely refurbed including shoes, wheel cyl, master cyl, lines, etc. One of the most expensive repairs was the front-end and steering parts that were basically completely shot. The interior is generally pretty decent, but will need the carpet replaced. Right now its at the body shop having new rocker panels installed and much other rust/body repair. Next week they should have it ready to spray back to the original red color. Mark spent a ton of $$$ on this car. Don't know if it was worth it, but he likes it. [:o)]And, I guess he could eventually add a small 4V carb and dual exhausts to give it some ooommph. ;)

http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu136/edpjr/marksstude.jpg

"Proud owner of a Lark powered Avanti"

Shane
09-11-2009, 10:31 PM
Nice looking car, keep us updated

http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss313/squireshop/ShanesPics_0004-1.jpg http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss313/squireshop/002-1.jpg http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss313/squireshop/006.jpg<div align="left">My first stude '61 champ in 1987</div id="left"> <center>Shane</center><center>Kennewick, WA</center>

studeclunker
09-12-2009, 01:20 AM
Oh... I think you might be surprised at just how much oomph that little 283 might have.;) 'Course, that auto tranny will get in the way. Still, if your brother has a first gear start installed, he'll notice a considerable difference in take-off speed.;)

Looks like a nice car![^] Tell your brother to keep up the good work. His baby is well worth the bucks spent on her.[:X]

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scott.rodgers
09-12-2009, 01:31 AM
Good luck with the Cruiser!

A lot of '66 talk on the forum lately. I'm looking forward to picking up the 66 Daytona I bought recently.

Scott Rodgers
Los Angeles
SDC Member since 1989
'60 Lark HT
'63 Wagonaire

studeclunker
09-12-2009, 02:10 AM
I like the 66s. They have a lot of virtues and were good cars.

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K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
Ron Smith
Where the heck is Lewiston, CA?

showbizkid
09-12-2009, 02:17 AM
Worth it? Every one saved is worth it [^]

Plus it's a cool looking car!


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Clark in San Diego
'63 F2/Lark Standard
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66daytonastud
09-12-2009, 10:08 AM
Exactly what was the difference between the cruiser and my Daytona?

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af277/66daytonastud/Photo0041.jpg

66 Daytona all stock

Roscomacaw
09-12-2009, 10:57 AM
A couple of extra doors for starters![:0]

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1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1963 Cruiser
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President two door

Thomas63R2
09-12-2009, 11:57 AM
You need to get over this money thing. Restoring old cars is many parts money + love of cars. From a practical standpoint being an enthusiast and spending a lot of time with yesteryear technology is a foolish pursuit.

When it comes to money spent I am not so concerned with what someone else has spent - it is their car and their money after all. The bottom line is that there are times when an enthusiast just loves some certain car - and maybe you already know that love can make you blind to money :)

If it makes him happy and it restores another car then I think it is all good. I am positive that because he saw value in what you describe as a parts car that his efforts will make the future owner of the car that much more proud.

Thomas

StudeDave57
09-12-2009, 12:32 PM
Someone remind me again- how many '66 Cruisers did Studebaker build [?] [?] [?]

Yup- it was TOTALLY WORTH his effort and cash!!!


signed~
A '65 Cruiser driver 18 years running

edpjr
09-12-2009, 12:39 PM
He'll never sell this car. He still drives a '72 Plymouth Valiant 4-dr slant six that he's had for over 25 years...


quote:Originally posted by Thomas63R2

You need to get over this money thing. Restoring old cars is many parts money + love of cars. From a practical standpoint being an enthusiast and spending a lot of time with yesteryear technology is a foolish pursuit.

When it comes to money spent I am not so concerned with what someone else has spent - it is their car and their money after all. The bottom line is that there are times when an enthusiast just loves some certain car - and maybe you already know that love can make you blind to money :)

If it makes him happy and it restores another car then I think it is all good. I am positive that because he saw value in what you describe as a parts car that his efforts will make the future owner of the car that much more proud.

Thomas


"Proud owner of a Lark powered Avanti"

sweetolbob
09-12-2009, 03:46 PM
Your brother sounds like a real car guy. They are getting harder and harder to find these days.

Just a note on the vehicle's condition, That "junker" is almost in #2 condition for Michigan. :D

Bob

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okc63avanti
09-12-2009, 09:37 PM
I learned to drive on a 69 Dodge Dart with a 225 slant six with a 3 on the tree. The slant six in one of best engines every built by Mopar.

<div align="left">John</div id="left">

<div align="left">'63 Avanti, R1, Auto, AC, PW (unrestored)</div id="left">
http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq16/okc63avanti/63StudebakerAvanti-1.jpg

avantilover
09-12-2009, 11:56 PM
There were 1844 1966 V8 Cruisers built.

Totals for 1966 are as follows:

S F4: 2dr Commander 6 1245
V F4: 2dr Commander 8 198
S F8: Daytona 6 253
V F8: Daytona 8 620

4drs
S Y4: Commander 6 1888
S Y4T: Commander Taxicab 6 167
S Y9: Cruiser 6 414
V Y4: Commander 8 1368
V Y9: Cruiser 8 1844

Wagons
S P8: Wagonaire 6 320
V P8: Wagonaire 8 618

All up 8935 Cars and Vale Studebaker

Source An Identification Guide to Studebaker Passenger Vehicles Vol. 2 1946-1966 pp 456 - 460 DG Jones.

Daryl Jones is a member of the SA Chapter of SDC and has compiled/ is compiling 5 volumes (ring binders) of data to - as he put it collect everything in one place.

Vol.1 Passenger Cars 1902-1942
Vol 2 1946-1966
Vol 3 Miscellaneous Technical Data 1902-1966 includes Australian variations, Paint colours, Hub caps and Wheel Covers, Grille Badges and Bonnet emblems, Dash panels etc (in colour).
Vol.4 Commercial Vehicles 1902-1964 (nearing completion)
Vol.5 Factory Produced Options & Accessories 1904-1966 (only just started doing this one).

This is only available in the ring binders and is excellent. I believe Ed Reynolds has a set.

If there were a demand maybe Ed could reprint and sell through SI? But that's up to Him and Daryl.

John Clements
Avantilover, your South Australian Studebaker lover!!!
Lockleys South Australia

Thomas63R2
09-13-2009, 01:47 AM
Maybe he'll never *sell* the car - but not much chance of him living forever. Give it a few decades and there will be a future owner of his cars - and probably most of ours too.

It is actually better that he does keep the car "forever", that is the best way to get his money's worth: by driving the car.

Thomas

StudeMichael
09-13-2009, 08:11 AM
The repairs done were mainly maintenance items. Didn't seem like anything over the top. I understand money is tight right now for most.

edpjr
09-13-2009, 09:34 AM
I wonder how many of these 8935 last-of-the-line Studebakers survive 43 years later? My family owns two of them.



quote:Originally posted by avantilover

There were 1844 1966 V8 Cruisers built.

Totals for 1966 are as follows:

S F4: 2dr Commander 6 1245
V F4: 2dr Commander 8 198
S F8: Daytona 6 253
V F8: Daytona 8 620

4drs
S Y4: Commander 6 1888
S Y4T: Commander Taxicab 6 167
S Y9: Cruiser 6 414
V Y4: Commander 8 1368
V Y9: Cruiser 8 1844

Wagons
S P8: Wagonaire 6 320
V P8: Wagonaire 8 618

All up 8935 Cars and Vale Studebaker

Source An Identification Guide to Studebaker Passenger Vehicles Vol. 2 1946-1966 pp 456 - 460 DG Jones.

Daryl Jones is a member of the SA Chapter of SDC and has compiled/ is compiling 5 volumes (ring binders) of data to - as he put it collect everything in one place.

Vol.1 Passenger Cars 1902-1942
Vol 2 1946-1966
Vol 3 Miscellaneous Technical Data 1902-1966 includes Australian variations, Paint colours, Hub caps and Wheel Covers, Grille Badges and Bonnet emblems, Dash panels etc (in colour).
Vol.4 Commercial Vehicles 1902-1964 (nearing completion)
Vol.5 Factory Produced Options & Accessories 1904-1966 (only just started doing this one).

This is only available in the ring binders and is excellent. I believe Ed Reynolds has a set.

If there were a demand maybe Ed could reprint and sell through SI? But that's up to Him and Daryl.

John Clements
Avantilover, your South Australian Studebaker lover!!!
Lockleys South Australia



"Proud owner of a Lark powered Avanti"

billslark
09-13-2009, 04:06 PM
I have a Daytona V8, was a three speed, now has a turbo 350. Bought some NOS 64-66 sheet metal, and got the car with it. It has lots of rust and a broken frame and has not run for years. If it was not in such bad shape, I'd put a 259 in it, and a three speed overdrive back in it, and drive it.

Bill

Bill Pressler
09-13-2009, 06:49 PM
The '66 Cruiser is a neat car. You sure don't see too many. I really like the louvered pieces above the taillights, and the plush interiors. The last '66 my hometown dealer sold new was a solid Timberline Turquoise Cruiser with the off-white all-vinyl interior, per the Retail Sales Cards in the Studebaker National Museum archives. Boy, would I have liked to see that car. Sold to a customer in Masury, OH, about eighteen or twenty miles away.

I wish the owner of the red Cruiser good luck. Sometimes if you like a car, there's nothing wrong with putting more into it than you'd be able to sell it for. I'd sure rather have that Cruiser than a lot of other '66 cars.

Bill Pressler
Kent, OH
'63 Lark Daytona Skytop R1
'64 Daytona Hardtop

JRoberts
09-13-2009, 07:46 PM
It doesn't sound like too much is being spent on this car. I know the dollars add up and in reality it is a lot, but this particular car seems worth it to me.

I purchased a '65 Cruiser from my uncle a few years ago. It has a 283/auto. I have a 200R4 for it and the 156,xxx mile engine will soon be rebuilt. It needs some interior work as 44 years of wear is bound to take its toll. If it were to be a show car some exterior work would have to be done, but I'm thinking a driver. Maybe some paint down the road. I have some body panels if I should need them.

I'm thinking this '65, like your brother's '66, will be a fun car once these kinds of things are taken care of. I think he's done alright by this car and before long it will do alright by him.

Joe Roberts
'61 R1 Champ
'65 Cruiser
Editor of "The Down Easterner"
Eastern North Carolina Chapter

edpjr
09-13-2009, 08:22 PM
Thanks and I hope you're right that he'll enjoy it for years to come. My guess is he'll have invested about $10K when it's done.


quote:Originally posted by JRoberts

It doesn't sound like too much is being spent on this car. I know the dollars add up and in reality it is a lot, but this particular car seems worth it to me.

I purchased a '65 Cruiser from my uncle a few years ago. It has a 283/auto. I have a 200R4 for it and the 156,xxx mile engine will soon be rebuilt. It needs some interior work as 44 years of wear is bound to take its toll. If it were to be a show car some exterior work would have to be done, but I'm thinking a driver. Maybe some paint down the road. I have some body panels if I should need them.

I'm thinking this '65, like your brother's '66, will be a fun car once these kinds of things are taken care of. I think he's done alright by this car and before long it will do alright by him.

Joe Roberts
'61 R1 Champ
'65 Cruiser
Editor of "The Down Easterner"
Eastern North Carolina Chapter


"Proud owner of a Lark powered Avanti"

Mark57
09-13-2009, 08:26 PM
quote:Originally posted by edpjr
My guess is he'll have invested about $10K when it's done.



And he'll have a way better automobile than what you can buy for $10K elsewhere even with todays deals... [^];)

<h5>Mark
'57 Transtar Deluxe
Vancouver Island Chapter
http://visdc.shawwebspace.ca/ </h5>

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x153/MarkH57/IMG_0472a.jpg

edpjr
09-13-2009, 10:30 PM
I'll pass these positive comments on to Mark. A lot of his buddies have been ribbing him about spending so much $$$ on this car....


quote:Originally posted by Mark57


quote:Originally posted by edpjr
My guess is he'll have invested about $10K when it's done.



And he'll have a way better automobile than what you can buy for $10K elsewhere even with todays deals... [^];)

<h5>Mark
'57 Transtar Deluxe
Vancouver Island Chapter
http://visdc.shawwebspace.ca/ </h5>

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x153/MarkH57/IMG_0472a.jpg


"Proud owner of a Lark powered Avanti"

8E45E
09-13-2009, 10:54 PM
quote:Originally posted by edpjr

I'll pass these positive comments on to Mark. A lot of his buddies have been ribbing him about spending so much $$$ on this car....



Not a chance! I got a '66 Commander off the frame right now

What shade of red is that Cruiser going to be? Mount Royal Red? Or Highlander Red?

Craig

edpjr
09-14-2009, 01:05 PM
I think he said "Fire-Engine" red...


quote:Originally posted by 8E45E


quote:Originally posted by edpjr

I'll pass these positive comments on to Mark. A lot of his buddies have been ribbing him about spending so much $$$ on this car....



Not a chance! I got a '66 Commander off the frame right now

What shade of red is that Cruiser going to be? Mount Royal Red? Or Highlander Red?

Craig


"Proud owner of a Lark powered Avanti"

edpjr
09-14-2009, 01:07 PM
I think he said "Fire-Engine" red...


quote:Originally posted by 8E45E


quote:Originally posted by edpjr

I'll pass these positive comments on to Mark. A lot of his buddies have been ribbing him about spending so much $$$ on this car....



Not a chance! I got a '66 Commander off the frame right now

What shade of red is that Cruiser going to be? Mount Royal Red? Or Highlander Red?

Craig


"Proud owner of a Lark powered Avanti"
[/quote]

"Proud owner of a Lark powered Avanti"

8E45E
09-14-2009, 01:15 PM
quote:Originally posted by edpjr

I think he said "Fire-Engine" red...


It would be interesting to know. Find out of the tag is still on the underside of the glove box. Neither were really a 'fire-engine' red; Highlander red is close to the color it is now in the picture. Mount Royal Red is darker and a metallic.

Craig

edpjr
09-14-2009, 11:29 PM
I'll ask my brother Mark to look for the paint code. I love him, but he's very eccentric. If he's decided on "fire-engine" red, it won't matter what the original Stude colors were. [:I]


quote:Originally posted by 8E45E


quote:Originally posted by edpjr

I think he said "Fire-Engine" red...


It would be interesting to know. Find out of the tag is still on the underside of the glove box. Neither were really a 'fire-engine' red; Highlander red is close to the color it is now in the picture. Mount Royal Red is darker and a metallic.

Craig


"Proud owner of a Lark powered Avanti"

kamzack
09-14-2009, 11:51 PM
My 66 Daytona twice door is Mount Royal Red, or was along time ago, that's what's on the bottom of the deck lid anyhow and what it says on da build sheet. Someone hosed it over with something close to da neighborhood of Mount Royal Red, but not next door to it.
Kim

65cruiser
09-15-2009, 09:08 AM
Tell him about the Cruiser Registry:

http://www.65cruiser.com

Mark

Mark Anderson
Member SDC and FMCA
Keeper of the Studebaker Cruiser Registry
www.65cruiser.com


http://www.65cruiser.com/images/studewordy.jpg

edpjr
09-23-2009, 07:46 PM
The car is painted now and looks pretty good. The rockers have been replaced and the rust repaired. There are still a few little details to clear up and then I'll post some pix. [^]

"Proud owner of a Lark powered Avanti"

edpjr
11-14-2009, 11:35 PM
Here is the latest pic of my brother Mark's '66. I'm really surprised at the transformation in this little car. Now it runs good and looks good. It's amazing what hard work and lots of $$$ can accomplish. The serial # is C534260. According to the registry numbers, this car is probably one of the last few hundred produced by Studebaker.

http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu136/edpjr/Marks66Cruiser11-09.jpg

edp/NC
'63 Avanti
'66 Commander

Mark57
11-14-2009, 11:44 PM
She looks to be coming along nicely. :)[^]

<h5>Mark
'57 Transtar Deluxe
Vancouver Island Chapter
http://visdc.shawwebspace.ca/ </h5>

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x153/MarkH57/zonemt1a.jpg

14x7
11-14-2009, 11:53 PM
Nice red paint. Looks like Rancho red ,just kidding,looks good,now some white walls and your all set.

silverhawk
11-15-2009, 12:00 AM
Looks pretty good!

Dylan Wills
http://i483.photobucket.com/albums/rr200/1961lark/My%201961%20studebaker%20lark/Watcomcountyminimeet09andJamesBells.jpg
'61 lark deluxe 4 door wagon

showbizkid
11-15-2009, 08:26 AM
Hey, that's sweet! Your brother is no doubt enjoying the heck out of it, as you are your Avanti.

I have a maxim about old cars that I use to guide me: If you love it, save it. If it breaks, fix it. If money's tight, save for it. If anyone points and laughs, blow 'em a raspberry and leave 'em in a shower of gravel and exhaust :)

(Except for your wife. In her case, say "yes, dear" and buy parts when you can!)


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Clark in San Diego
'63 F2/Lark Standard
http://studeblogger.blogspot.com
www.studebakersandiego.com

Flashback
11-15-2009, 08:40 AM
Simply put, It's worth what it's worth to the owner.
I couldn't get my money out of my 53 coupe, but then
again, I wouldn't take it even if I could. I have
bought and sold cars and trucks for years, and the
"market" is crap. They are worth what someone will pay.

Tex E. Grier
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn320/Flashback53/DSC_0045-3.jpg

clonelark
11-15-2009, 09:13 AM
With a 500 cfm 4 bbl and a nice intake and an electronic ignition that car will have more power than anyone needs on the street, a mild cam and it'll rumble. That would be a fun car to drive. As for the transmission no need for a 1st gear start, just pull it down in low back to D then back to low and it will stay in second as long as you want, shift to high and it is as good as any 1st gear start.
I have run my 64 like that for 3 years now when i want to wring it out.

http://i37.tinypic.com/j6ppqd.jpg

edpjr
11-15-2009, 10:00 AM
Yes indeed, I'm trying to get him to install dual exhaust and a 4V carb and intake. And a Pertronix would be good too. It'll take awhile to convince him though - he's very eccentric. I also have a dash from a 64 Daytona with a factory Tach. I offered him the Tach for his '66, but he just doesn't seem interested. He seems more interested in getting the clock and cigarette lighter working (and he doesn't smoke). Go figure! [?]



quote:Originally posted by clonelark

With a 500 cfm 4 bbl and a nice intake and an electronic ignition that car will have more power than anyone needs on the street, a mild cam and it'll rumble. That would be a fun car to drive. As for the transmission no need for a 1st gear start, just pull it down in low back to D then back to low and it will stay in second as long as you want, shift to high and it is as good as any 1st gear start.
I have run my 64 like that for 3 years now when i want to wring it out.

http://i37.tinypic.com/j6ppqd.jpg


edp/NC
'63 Avanti
'66 Commander

Roscomacaw
11-15-2009, 12:40 PM
If he needs that little piece of side moulding on the right front fender, I think I have one of those lying about here. I could see if I can scare it up. Lookin' good either way tho!;)

http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/30906179/aview/58_Avatar.jpg
1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1963 Cruiser
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President two door

rusty65
11-15-2009, 01:42 PM
Good choice!My first Stude was a '66 Commander that I really loved.My recommendation to Mark would be to YES get a dual exhaust setup and YES go with the Pertronix setup.After that, see how she runs.I have duals and Petronix on Sarah,and YES a have a 500cfm Edlebrock.In hindsight I should have kept the two barrel,because there is some fine tuning I still have to do.Some of my car guy buddies have given me heck for having the 4bbl and others have said "about time!"Good luck on your project Mark!!{Your money, your ride!!}

paynestude
11-16-2009, 06:00 PM
Nice ride Mark! My 66 Cruiser (S Y9) is the same color. I love the way the car drives/rides. I never knew so few 66's were built. I bought the car because EVERYONE knows you can't own just one Studebaker. My 59 Lark Hardtop and my 63 Lark needed company in the garage. [:p]



Here is the latest pic of my brother Mark's '66. I'm really surprised at the transformation in this little car. Now it runs good and looks good. It's amazing what hard work and lots of $$$ can accomplish. The serial # is C534260. According to the registry numbers, this car is probably one of the last few hundred produced by Studebaker.

edpjr
11-21-2009, 09:51 PM
Here's a couple more pix.

http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu136/edpjr/Marks66Front11-09.jpg


http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu136/edpjr/Marks66Driverside11-09.jpg

edp/NC
'63 Avanti
'66 Commander

edpjr
11-21-2009, 09:55 PM
I would love to get my brother that little missing piece of moulding. :D Please see if you can locate it and give me a price. Thanks very much![8D]


quote:Originally posted by Mr.Biggs

If he needs that little piece of side moulding on the right front fender, I think I have one of those lying about here. I could see if I can scare it up. Lookin' good either way tho!;)

http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/30906179/aview/58_Avatar.jpg
1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1963 Cruiser
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President two door




edp/NC
'63 Avanti
'66 Commander

COMMANDERPINK1
11-22-2009, 11:05 AM
Nice car, mine is also red with black interior but in the Commander line. Question, were the the rear doors small glass able to be opened on the 66s Cruisers?

TOM

edpjr
11-22-2009, 11:28 AM
Nope. Just for show.


quote:Originally posted by COMMANDERPINK1

Nice car, mine is also red with black interior but in the Commander line. Question, were the the rear doors small glass able to be opened on the 66s Cruisers?

TOM


edp/NC
'63 Avanti
'66 Commander

8E45E
11-22-2009, 04:11 PM
quote:Originally posted by COMMANDERPINK1
Question, were the the rear doors small glass able to be opened on the 66s Cruisers?


Not on '66 Cruisers. They figured the new Refreshaire ventilation system would make opening rear vent windows unecessary.

Craig

Bullet
11-22-2009, 06:58 PM
nice looking 1966. I think any 66 is worth saving as they are probably the ones you see the least of!



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Laemmle
11-22-2009, 07:02 PM
It is the greatest engine ever made!



quote:Originally posted by okc63avanti

I learned to drive on a 69 Dodge Dart with a 225 slant six with a 3 on the tree. The slant six in one of best engines every built by Mopar.

<div align="left">John</div id="left">

<div align="left">'63 Avanti, R1, Auto, AC, PW (unrestored)</div id="left">
http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq16/okc63avanti/63StudebakerAvanti-1.jpg