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09-09-2009, 02:36 PM
Hello there to all of you out in Studebaker-land, my name is Bob and I wanted to introduce myself. I am a 21 year old college student from Chicago. Now that I've gotten some of the basics out of the way...on to the important stuff! [:p]

I am not a Studebaker owner, but I would like to someday change that. There has been, however, a couple of Stude's in the family. My Mom's father owned a 1948 Studebaker Champion, and was the first car he and my Grandmother bought as a married couple. I have a picture of them posing quite proudly in front of it, and I cherish it. My Mom's father was not a car guy by any stretch of the imagination, so I don't have any details about it other than the year.

My Dad's father, however was most definitely a car guy, and is the reason my father and I are car guys. He had a 1959 Lark hardtop coupe. This car is the reason I decided to join up on the board here, and try to do more research, and learn more about a brand I have always loved. Life has interesting timing, and I have found these past couple days to have been pretty interesting...allow me to explain. My Dad's father had passed away a few months ago, and we have since inherited a lot of odds and ends that my Grandmother did not want or need. In one box amid some other random papers, was a large collection of vintage car brochures and owners manuals. He had saved full line brochures for the 1948 Pontiac, Hudson, Buick, and Packard. My Dad concluded this was from when my Grandpa went shopping for his father's new car, since he ended up buying a new '48 Packard that year.

These were all in incredible condition and just a load of fun to look through, but the next find was the most interesting and exciting to me...the owners manual, accessories brochure, warranty, unused "preparation for new vehicle delivery" checklist, unused "service product report" carbon triplicate form, and last but not least...window sticker for his 1959 Lark that he bought new at Meisel Lincoln Mercury Inc, in Cleveland, Ohio. Not to mention the marked Studebaker-Packard Corp envelope it all came in. His '59 Lark hardtop coupe was black with a red interior and was loaded with about $500 worth of options, including the 259 c.i. V8, auto trans, white wall tires, cigar lighter, and a few more, bringing the grand total to $2912.10. So after going over all of this info and having a lot of fun looking through it, I decided to scour the internet to see what I could find. In addition to coming across this wonderful site, I found the 1959 Lark on ebay right now, which I also found posted here on the site. The timing of this is just wild to me, as you could tell from my description of my Grandpa's car, this Lark on ebay is just about identical to it, and makes me wish I had about $6,000!

So now I guess I'll apologize for the novel I just wrote, but like I said, the timing of getting all of this old paperwork and then seeing the identical sibling to my Grandpa's old Lark on ebay right now was just too much to ignore, and really lit a fire under me as far as my passion for Studebakers is concerned. I appreciate all of you taking the time to read this, and I hope to learn a lot here, and to find a Lark of my own.


09-09-2009, 02:50 PM
Welcome to SDC (I assume that you have joined) and the world of Studebakers.
Have you checked the serial number of the car on eBay against the paperwork for your grandfather's Lark. It would be something if it is the same car. Since your grandfather's car started out in Cleveland, Ohio, I doubt that it still survives unless it had unusual care and/or moved away at an early age. I find it odd that it was purchased new at a L/M dealer. Cleveland had Studebaker dealers.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

SDC member since 1968
Studebaker enthusiast much longer

09-09-2009, 02:56 PM
Bob, we're glad you found us - you're in the right place to take care of a Studebaker jones! There's a lot of knowledge about Studes and cars in general here, and we're happy to share it, so if you want help finding a car, deciding whether to purchase one, or what to do when you've got it, just ask!


Clark in San Diego
'63 F2/Lark Standard

09-09-2009, 02:58 PM
Welcome to the Forum (and the madness)! ;):)

'57 Transtar Deluxe
Vancouver Island Chapter
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Pat Dilling
09-09-2009, 03:02 PM
Bob, Welcome to the forum and as Gary said, hopefully the Studebaker Drivers Club. There is a big push within the club right now to encourage more young members such as yourself. You do not have to own a Studebaker to be a member, just have an interest in them. With your membership comes a great monthly magazine called Turning Wheels. It is full of all things Studebaker including interesting history, how-to articles, reports and pictures of events, classified and comercial ads and of course, lots of Studebakers. Also there is certainly a local chapter in your area where you will get a chance to meet and hang out with other Studebaker lovers. The club is also a great resource for help and knowledge if you have a car to work on, plus we all like to get out and show off our cars. Thanks for sharing thaat great story and all the good treasures you have found among your Grandpa's things. Good luck in finding the Studebaker of your dreams, you have come to the right place.


Pat Dilling
Olivehurst, CA
Custom '53 Starlight aka Stu Cool
LS1 Engine Swap Journal: http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/journal.php?action=view&journalid=33611

09-09-2009, 03:03 PM
Welcome, Bob!! We value Bobs here! Bobs are great! I understand your interest and wish you the best in finding that special car. Looks like it will be a Lark, huh? Fun cars and great looking.

'50 Champion, 1 family owner

09-09-2009, 03:38 PM
Welcome to the forum Bob!

Dylan Wills

'61 lark deluxe 4 door wagon

09-09-2009, 03:53 PM
Welcome, Bob. I'm glad you're family Studebaker history had its start in Cleveland. Here's a picture of a former dealership which still displays the Studebaker logo. I have yet to confirm what dealership this had been on W.117th street. What is the address on your grandfather's paperwork? Dealers were bought and sold quite a bit during those recession years preceeding the '59 Lark model presentation. Maybe a Lincoln Dealer bought them.


The other is a picture, of which I am pretty fond, in front of my grandfather's 1959 Lark Regal. Great family memories.


09-09-2009, 03:56 PM
Hey, Bob. What a great post and interesting story. Hopefully, you'll continue to post during your investigation and search for a Lark. What a tire-burner your Grandfather's car must have been. Can you tell us what happened to it? Being in Chicago, you are close to many participants in this forum. Maybe you can hook up sometime and allow them to help.

Good luck in college and keep in touch.


Richard Morris
Renton, WA
64 Avanti R-1 #5367
90 Avanti 4-door #78

Bill Pressler
09-09-2009, 04:05 PM
Bob, although it's not likely, I wouldn't totally rule out that the car on eBay could be your grandfather's old car. This past spring I bought a car listed on eBay that looked familiar to me. It was in Wisconsin. I checked the serial number of the car, and it was a car sold new in my small hometown in PA which I remembered as it was owned by the original owner 'til 1990 and was then sold to a new owner in WI. It had changed hands a few times since 1990, but I had some old paperwork on the car that I'd had for almost twenty years and it was indeed the same car.

It's in my garage now!

You might want to ask the eBay seller a question online--asking him if he has the Production Order for the car and if so, what is the "Destination" on the form? These are available for many Studebakers, from the Studebaker National Museum in South Bend, IN, and many Studebaker owners have ordered these production orders for their cars over the years.

Good luck, and welcome to the world of Studebakers!

Bill Pressler
Kent, OH
'63 Lark Daytona Skytop R1
'64 Daytona Hardtop

09-09-2009, 04:38 PM
Thank you all very much for the warm and inviting welcome! I am very excited to be a part of this forum.

Gary and Pat, I have not yet joined the SDC, but I would like to at some point. It is nice to know that they are reaching out to younger members, and I would love to be one of them.

Showbizkid, thanks a lot! I'm trying to keep my eyes peeled for a Lark, so if you all want to keep yours peeled as well, I wouldn't mind in the least! At this point I'm looking for driver/project, as I have a very, very tiny budget.

Bob, it's always a pleasure to be around other Bobs!

BarnLark, that is a fantastic picture of your beautiful '60 Lark Convertible, and what an awesome old dealership. The address of the dealer that sold my Grandfather's Lark was 9501 Carnegie, in Cleveland.

Bill, I will try getting in touch with the ebay seller. I can't imagine that its the same car, but it sure would be interesting.

Rich, I can only imagine what a burner my Grandpa's old Lark would have been...but thats how he always ordered his cars, with the biggest engine available and heavy duty everything. He was a head salesman for Monroe Calculators and Adding Machines in Cleveland when he would have had this car. Like I said, he was a big car nut and I'm sure with the '59 Lark being a hot new and different car, he just had to have one....so he did! But being a salesman he put a lot of miles on his cars, and he would turn them over every couple of years. This is why I know that the Lark on ebay couldn't be his, there is just no way his would of had that few miles on it by the time he was done with it.

Thanks guys!


09-09-2009, 05:03 PM
Very well written post. Do you still have family in Cleveland? I live near West 117th. I have a 1962 Lark Cruiser sedan.

09-09-2009, 05:04 PM
Sounds like fun. [8D] Great story and good luck in finding your Lark.

Welcome aboard, it's good to see another young guy on here. I'm 19 and Dylan (AKA silverhawk) is 16 I think.

Let me warn you.. Stude's tend to multiply. Nobody has just one, not for long anyways. I have a few, but only 3 are worth counting. It's an incurable disease. :)

Matthew Burnette
Hazlehurst, GA

09-09-2009, 05:06 PM
One more Bob welcoming you here. Those early Lark hardtops are sharp-lookin' cars!

Stick around, Bob. We'll get you so infected with the Stude bug that you'll NEVER recover![}:)] Not that that's a bad thing.:D

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1963 Cruiser
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President two door

09-09-2009, 05:55 PM
Hi Bob,

I caught the Stude bug from my Husband, so I know what it is like to have it. I just got my first Studebaker (GT Hawk) for my 51st Birthday! So no matter what age you are, young or old they are fun! This group can answer any questions you have. If you ever come out to Northern California, I'd like to invite you to visit us!
I bet there is a chapter near you & you might want to attend a meeting & see the Studebakers they drive.

Welcome & enjoy the journey of looking for the right Studebaker & then driving it!

Johna Pierce

StudeRick &
Johna, 64GTGAL
Sacramento CA
1964 GT Hawk
1957 Silver Hawk
1964 Avanti

09-09-2009, 07:14 PM
Glad to meet you Matt! It is very cool to know there are other young guns out there like me...gives me hope for the future! I currently own a 1971 Olds 98 and my Dad has a 1964 Buick Electra and a 1972 Chrysler Town and Country wagon, so I am no stranger to the old car game. We also recently got rid of a couple old gm clamshell wagons and my Dad's 1976 Cadillac Coupe DeVille...the car I learned to drive in. So I know how old cars can multiply as well!

Thanks S_Ferrell, and no, I don't have relatives in Cleveland anymore. My Dad and my Grandparents moved to Detroit when my Dad was ten.

Mr. Biggs, I am planning on sticking around, especially after this warm welcome. And I have no problem catching any automobile related disease...in fact, I welcome them!

Johna, that sounds like quite the fantastic b-day present! Congrats and thank you for the invite! I am going to keep myself aware of the local clubs/chapters as well.


09-09-2009, 07:25 PM
Welcome Bob, indeed. Do you still have family, in Detroit? There is a very cool circa 1950 bullet nose car for sale around here (Detroit area). The guy is asking just $2500. It's a 2dr sedan, like Fozzie's in The Muppet Movie. It's a 6 cyl. I can get you the phone number. Huck

Gary Hildebrandt

09-09-2009, 08:00 PM
I add my welcome!

Here's a link to your Illinois Chapters information.

Here's a link to last month's classifieds in TURNING WHEELS.
Check back as they get updated or, join SDC and receive your own monthly issue. It's going to happen. Don't fight it.:D

Brad Johnson
Pine Grove Mills, Pa.
http://s57.photobucket.com/albums/g233/rockne10/Rockne/th_Rocknegauges.jpg'33 Rockne 10, '51 Commander Starlight, '53 Commander Starlight

09-09-2009, 08:11 PM

Welcome to the site, Bob's are great!!!!!

And thanks for helping Matt and Dylan in reducing the average age of the site.

I think you will find this a friendly and valuable resource.

Please ask for any help you need no matter how minor it may seem.

Also, don't miss the search function in the upper right hand corner of the page. You can find discussion on a plethora of topics.

Dave's ain't all bad either after studedave's generous offer.

Again Welcome



09-09-2009, 08:17 PM
Hi Bob, welcome to the madhouse. Yes, Matthew is quite correct. Leave two Studebakers in close proximity, and when you come back there might be one or two more. I left for work and came home three days later to find two more in my driveway and a third awaiting my pickup in the Napa Valley (LOL). The two cars in my sig line cost me less than fifteen hundred dollars combined. Neither was running, of course, but they weren't difficult to fix either. A five or six hundred dollar car will have issues. But that's part of their charm. If you need a reliable car for transportation, a restored car is a good value. I mean, dollar for dollar, a restored car is a better bargin than a new car. After all, the new car goes down in value whilst the restored classic goes up. Well, as long as you take care of it, of course.;) So, for now, welcome to the club and the madness.

As an aside, my Dad's name was Bob and he was from Chicago. I also have a number of cousins with your name as well. Then again, what can you expect from a Smith, right(LOL)?;)[:o)]:D

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Home of the famous Mr. Ed!
K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
Ron Smith
Where the heck is Lewiston, CA?

09-09-2009, 09:26 PM
Originally posted by Studedude
Since I have been a 21 year old college student myself, I think I know what part of the problem might be... if you can't afford the $19.95 right now, I'll spring for it if you join SDC!

I'll split it with you, Dave. [^] That's easier than ten Bobs gettin' two bucks together each. :D

Anne F. Goodman
09-09-2009, 09:53 PM
Welcome to the Forum Bob, I have a son named Bob he drives a 1955 President. We have quite a fleet of Studebakers something happens after dark they multiply. I tried to resist drove my 1969 El Camino took six years then I bought my first Studebaker a 1949 Champion deluxe sedan. I now have two Studebakers of my own a 1954 Commander Coupe too. My Husband has 1957 Siverhawk and a 1957 GoldenHawk. We all share Gus a 1958 Transtar pickup. So they are addictive. But this is the best group of people that you would ever hope to meet. Again Welcome.

Mabel 1949 Champion
Hawk 1957 Silverhawk
Gus 1958 Transtar
The Prez 1955 President State
Blu 1957 Golden Hawk
Daisy 1954 Commander Regal Coupe

09-09-2009, 10:15 PM
Greetings Bob.Its like a Bob Fest in here.PHEW! Love the story of your Grandpa and his Lark. Remember to try and find a solid body to start with.Replacing drive line and suspention parts is easier than patching a rust bucket back together IMO. Please don't hesitate to post your thoughts!!

Bob Bryant
09-09-2009, 10:36 PM
Bob: Another Bob says welcome to the forum and the world of Studebakers.

"It's like deja vu all over again."--Yogi Berra

09-10-2009, 12:20 AM
I feel like I'm in a sea of Bobs! I've never been around so many Bobs in my life....come to thing of it, I don't think I've ever known this many Bobs in my life!

Dave and BarnLark, I appreciate that extremely generous offer very much. I haven't been on this site much more than a day and I have already received this much generosity, it really speaks for this group of people. I will respectfully decline the offer, because I think I can come up with $20...just gotta wait 'til payday!

StudeClunker, I'm not too worried about finding a reliable car off the bat, as I have one already (my '71 Olds) and I don't even really need one period since I live in the city. But first and foremost, as ChampTrucking brings up, is finding a solid body. I can find rust under every rock and around every corner here in Illinois, as I'm sure many of you in the midwest understand.

Huck, that bullet nose coupe sounds awesome, and I would love to own one of those someday, but right now my focus is centered around Larks, or possibly a Wagonair, since I grew up with and love station wagons. And also, I no longer have family in Detroit. My Dad's parents lived there up until about 7 years ago, but they moved to Florida permanently just last fall. But I consider Detroit and the surrounding area a second home, since I used to go there so much, and I love the automotive history that surrounds you up there.

Thanks for the links rockne10!

Sweetolbob, thanks for the tips! I am more than happy to help bring down the median age here!


09-10-2009, 12:34 AM
Detroit? Hey, Kent is in the vicinity of Detroit, I think. Anyway, he has a nice '62 sedan. I know as it came from me.;) It has a wee bit of rust, but nothing like would be generated back there. Needs a lot of work though.[B)] Then again, Maybe someone could find a nice starter Wagonaire for you. They are around, especially if you're not against one of the Chevy-Bakers of '65 and '66.;) All you need is an understanding and patient Landlord...[}:)]

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Home of the famous Mr. Ed!
K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
Ron Smith
Where the heck is Lewiston, CA?

09-10-2009, 12:36 AM
Bob , welcome to the forum, I think you will like once you really get going, and by the way my name is Bob, Anne, Pat and I got home at 9:00PM no problems as always a good 22 hour round trip just over 800 miles..Bob

Bob Peterson / C & B Studebakers

Castro Valley, CA


09-10-2009, 01:42 AM
Okay, here is a quick question concerning the Lark...would I fit into one?! I am 6'5" and leg and headroom is always a concern for me when it comes to cars. Can anyone weigh in on this?


09-10-2009, 02:23 AM
Yes you will fit as the Lark is based on the fullsized 1958 cars but with roughly 2 feet removed from the front and rear, the Passenger compartment is the same. You could even drive it wearing a Hat!!! Which was the fashion in that era.

John Clements
Avantilover, your South Australian Studebaker lover!!!
Lockleys South Australia

09-10-2009, 08:02 AM
Check out the Blackhawk Chapter of the SDC in the Chicago area.

We meet on 2nd Tuesday of the month at Dennny's resturant in Oak Brook Terrance

You can find more about the local chapter at the SDC home page and look up local chapters.

If you want more info, send me a message.



09-10-2009, 08:24 AM

And shame on all of you for not mentioning that the latest issue of Turning Wheels ;)(TW acronym for future reference BOB)
Deals with Bobs beloved larks from 59-61.

I will send you my copy,

There's a lot of Lark nuts around here so you'll fit right in.
Play around with the search function at the top of the forum page there's some good topics lately, One of intrest to you might be the Forum members age thread, you'll find we're not as old as everyone thinks.
What was your first car/studebaker thread. And so on.

You'll get a feel for the group in no time. And keep in mind.....humor is hard to type sometimes.:D[8D][:o)];):(:([:0][^][:X][V][?][:o)][:o)][:o)]

Email sent

144 weeks till completion

09-10-2009, 01:11 PM
Thats what I thought Avantilover, but I am glad you confirmed it for me!

Hey Mike, I see from your signature pic that you're from Barrington. Well my family and I are from Crystal Lake, although I live in the city now. I would definitely like to try and meet up at the Dennys. I'll get ahold of you for more details.

4961Stude, thanks for the big welcome. That article in TW sounds like it's right up my alley. Can I purchase a back issue, or do I have to be a member first?
It sounds like there are a lot of great topics, and I will definitely look up the couple you listed. I am on a couple of online forums, and I understand the difficulties that can arise from only being able to type thoughts, missing out on the inflection of spoken words, but I appreciate the reminder because its always good to bring it up.


09-10-2009, 04:19 PM
Being tall is no problem for the Lark! I had 17 at one point in my life and I am 6'6" tall and fit quite nicely behind the wheel, driving everyone one of them.


09-10-2009, 04:34 PM
Bummer you don't live over here Bob, and have some money for project. There is a '59 hardtop over near me for 600 bucks, I just have some of the same problems you do.:(

Dylan Wills

'61 lark deluxe 4 door wagon

09-10-2009, 04:59 PM
quote:Originally posted by studeclunker

[font=Comic Sans MS][size=3]Detroit? Hey, Kent is in the vicinity of Detroit, I think.

Kent's up in central Michigan. I talked to him recently, and he said he has a few Studes he needs to unload. Bob, email me at mbstude@gmail.com and I'll get you his contact info. He's another young guy and I'm sure he'll have something you can work with.

Matthew Burnette
Hazlehurst, GA

Bill Pressler
09-10-2009, 05:47 PM
You might want to ask the eBay seller a question online--asking him if he has the Production Order for the car and if so, what is the "Destination" on the form?

I just had a real 'duh' moment, Bob....If the eBay listing has the car's serial no., you can compare it to the serial no. from your Granddad's car's window sticker. If not, you can ask the seller for the serial no. and not have to worry about asking him about the production order. But, you've probably figured this out already!

Bill Pressler
Kent, OH
'63 Lark Daytona Skytop R1
'64 Daytona Hardtop

09-10-2009, 06:10 PM
Why doesn't everybody come to the Pure Stock Muscle Car drags, in two weeks, and we can discuss all this in person. If Kent's in Central Michigan, he should have no excuse. Huck, in Detroit

Gary Hildebrandt

09-10-2009, 08:57 PM
Run away as fast as you can..
Everyone here on this forum has been recently released from various institutions. DO NOT LISTEN TO THEM!
If you let ONE of the mentioned piles of junk in your life you will be on a downward spiral..the proverbial 'slippery slope'...and I AM NOT KIDDING!
Sonny...? Where are you? Your famous quote is needed here but I recon I will do it for you... "THE ONLY CURE IS DEATH".....
Good luck...you will need a lot of it...&lt;G&gt;
One of my customers and a chapter member puts life in perspective..."before Studebakers ruined my life"..and after...
Matthew, venture a guess as to who said that...


09-10-2009, 09:06 PM
No idea George... I'd say Chris, but she's having way too much fun with her bulletnose. She ever find another one?

Matthew Burnette
Hazlehurst, GA

09-10-2009, 09:14 PM
Bingo Matthew...
Yes, she has now put dang near a thousand miles on it since you saw it. BUT...even SHE admits to the insanity. And yes, she is still looking for another...
Advice to the new guy.....take up fishing, stamps, whatever...
STAY AWAY from Studebakers!
"This is not a cheap hobby...but fun ain't cheap and cheap ain't fun".


09-10-2009, 10:17 PM
Good advice! But, StudebakerlessGeorge doesn't have the same ring to it...some things were just meant to be. ;)

09-11-2009, 02:46 PM
quote:Originally posted by silverhawk

Bummer you don't live over here Bob, and have some money for project. There is a '59 hardtop over near me for 600 bucks, I just have some of the same problems you do.:(

Dylan Wills

'61 lark deluxe 4 door wagon

I believe I know the one you're talking about Dylan...it's a white one that sounds like it needs some floorboard repair, right? That is certainly within my price range, but getting it to Chicago would be another story.

StudebakerGeorge, I appreciate your concern....but it's too late for me. I was born with a love of cars in my blood, and once I get my mind set on a new one, I WILL eventually have one! [:p]


09-11-2009, 02:54 PM
quote:Originally posted by Bullet

Being tall is no problem for the Lark! I had 17 at one point in my life and I am 6'6" tall and fit quite nicely behind the wheel, driving everyone one of them.


Thanks Bullet, thats good to know!

09-11-2009, 03:00 PM
George, I think Chris refers to Studes "ruining her life" in a good way. She's having a blast.

quote:Originally posted by barnlark

Good advice! But, StudebakerlessGeorge doesn't have the same ring to it...some things were just meant to be. ;)

Don't let George fool ya. He's the only guy I know of with both arms covered in Studebaker tattoos. Seriously. [8D]

Matthew Burnette
Hazlehurst, GA

09-11-2009, 03:09 PM
Hey, Bob

Welcome to the Forum. Studes are addictive, and Stude lovers are also known as studenuts. Enjoy the hobby your way, and you'll always be a part of a friendly family of folk who are very diverse but all speak the same language.

Your new friend, and just call me Bob.

[img=left]http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j259/stude53/studesmall2.jpg[/img=left]Bob Feaganes (stude53)
53 Starliner Hardtop
Newton Grove, NC

09-12-2009, 10:43 AM
The nice thing about Studebakers is you can get in cheap. (relatively speaking) Do be aware that you can, and probably will, get carried away. (not that there's anything wrong with that)

But, you can drive your Studebaker as an old beater or as a beautifully restored or restomodded masterpeice and it will gather attention either way. And most Studebaker folks will support you whatever you do to your car.

As you will find, there are no other orphan car makes that have the parts inventory you will find with Studebakers.

Welcome to our world.....

Jon Stalnaker
Editor, Hawk Talks
Karel Staple Chapter SDC

09-13-2009, 06:08 AM
Thanks Stude53 and Sdude!

You certainly seem correct in that getting into the Studebaker world is a relatively cheap ticket, and the parts supply is certainly a nice and reassuring thing as well.