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Helping-A-Friend
09-08-2009, 09:28 PM
Hey guys I posted awhile ago, trying to help my friend with his rustbucket of a car. But while trying to find parts for his car I ran across a 1963 Lark Cruiser, that seems to be in pretty good condition.

The body appears to be solid and I will be taking pictures on Thursday. The car is a champagne goldish color? greenish interior, maybe? It used to be a V8 car but the engine is gone. There are parts of 'an' engine in the trunk, but I didnt look close as to what it was or how much was there. Title included, etc. Ideally, what would something like this go for? I know you need to see pix and have more detail but are we talking $100 or $2000? I dont want to insult the guy.

Let me know as your time allows, and as always, Lord Bless each of you,
Snell

Dick Steinkamp
09-08-2009, 09:31 PM
quote:Originally posted by Helping-A-Friend
Ideally, what would something like this go for?


Ideally for the seller or ideally for the buyer? ;) :)

Dick Steinkamp
Bellingham, WA

http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww63/dstnkmp/63%20Daytona%20done/PP026-1.jpg

Helping-A-Friend
09-08-2009, 09:48 PM
I'm looking to buy the car to help my friend. But I really have no idea what they are worth. AS I have admitted before I am a Mustang guy, I know them like the back of my hand.

Any input would be appreciated, with pix to follow Thursday evening.

Snell

Shane
09-08-2009, 09:48 PM
Late last year I bought a 1965 Commander with out the Motor the auto Trans is still in it for $200.00 Excellent interior new wind shield flanged posi rear-end lots of good parts under side is totaly shot frame in bad shape too.

http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss313/squireshop/004-1.jpg[IMG]http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss313/squireshop/002-1.jpgShane Kennewick,WA

rockne10
09-08-2009, 09:49 PM
The '63 Cruiser, with its 289, was a marvelous vehicle but, without its engine, I probably wouldn't offer more than five or six hundred. If someone had a 289 and needed a car to put it in the Cruiser is a good choice.
Even the time and effort to part it out wouldn't bring sufficient return to make a higher offer.
Still, wouldn't like to see it lost.

barnlark
09-08-2009, 11:26 PM
8 months ago I got a Cruiser similar to that with a full drive train for free! Anything close to that would be best. ;) Don't offer any more than Rockne10 suggests, for sure. $300 is about right to try on him. Hey, there's not an engine in there, that's not an insult. You will need the extra cash to prepare for an engine budget. Without seeing it and testing everything for workability it's pretty hard to tell. Can't wait to see the pics. Good luck.

Helping-A-Friend
09-09-2009, 12:35 AM
Once again forgive my ignorance, but was the 289 a Ford? I have about 15 of those. Don't laugh if its not, cuz American Motors used a bunch of Ford Internals back in the day...

I hate to admit that but its true... hehe

Snell

Mark57
09-09-2009, 12:50 AM
quote:Originally posted by Helping-A-Friend

Once again forgive my ignorance, but was the 289 a Ford? I have about 15 of those. Don't laugh if its not, cuz American Motors used a bunch of Ford Internals back in the day...

I hate to admit that but its true... hehe

Snell


Up to 1964, Studebaker used their own V8 power plants - 232, 224, 259, 289 and 304 were all Stude built. If you saw a Stude 289 next to a Ford 289, you would readily see the difference! ;)

<h5>Mark
'57 Transtar Deluxe
Vancouver Island Chapter
http://visdc.shawwebspace.ca/ </h5>

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x153/MarkH57/IMG_0472a.jpg

TedsHawk
09-09-2009, 07:37 AM
quote:Originally posted by Mark57


quote:Originally posted by Helping-A-Friend

Once again forgive my ignorance, but was the 289 a Ford? I have about 15 of those. Don't laugh if its not, cuz American Motors used a bunch of Ford Internals back in the day...

I hate to admit that but its true... hehe

Snell


Up to 1964, Studebaker used their own V8 power plants - 232, 224, 259, 289 and 304 were all Stude built. If you saw a Stude 289 next to a Ford 289, you would readily see the difference! ;)

<h5>Mark
'57 Transtar Deluxe
Vancouver Island Chapter
http://visdc.shawwebspace.ca/ </h5>

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x153/MarkH57/IMG_0472a.jpg


I have worked on cars for years, never saw a Ford motor in an AMC why would they. They had their own perfectly good V8 and 6cyl motors. I continually amazed at why people think Ford or GM made everything.I had a Rambler before my Studebaker and the parts store "kids" always insisted it was a Dodge

1957 Golden Hawk
"Studebaker? they dont make them anymore"

4961Studebaker
09-09-2009, 08:14 AM
:D :D

Take no offense Helping-A-Friend.......I laugh on the other side of the monitor because about 2 months ago we all here on the forum talked about the Ford 289 subject, as well as some other Car show Wisdom experience's that Studebaker owners experience at Cruises, Events and random parking lot encounters. Anyway I have fun reading threads with that type of subject matter, and your post made me laugh. :D :D (New Corvette Guy seems to provoke resonse too.)

Your right about the condition of the Lark, pictures will show us a lot more, and help determine a price for you, Floor boards, fenders, and trunk area, and rear wheel wells are the typical places to look.

Welcome aboard, good luck, and maybe we'll all tell some stories.

ChopStu
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gordr
09-09-2009, 09:56 AM
Unless the body and interior of that Cruiser is in truly exceptional condition, it's probably worth only a few hundred dollars.

You didn't say if the transmission is present, not that it matters much. Most anybody who has an engine to sell you will also have a transmission.

Gord Richmond, within Weasel range of the Alberta Badlands

52-fan
09-09-2009, 10:42 AM
Except to a Studebaker guy who needs parts, the car is worth whatever scrap brings in your area. Anything above that is based on want and not need.

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s186/52-fan/StudebakersofArkansas2-1.jpg
1952 Champion Starlight w/overdrive. Searcy, Arkansas
"I may be lazy, but I'm not shiftless."

Roscomacaw
09-09-2009, 11:19 AM
Last October, I bought my 63 Cruiser for $425. When I got it home, I was able to start it and drive it into the back yard. Super-solid car that was all there. Heh - I've now got ten times that amount invested in it!

http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/30906179/aview/58_Avatar.jpg
1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1963 Cruiser
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President two door

rockne10
09-09-2009, 08:50 PM
The Studebaker 289 looks like a big block next to the Ford 289; wider cylinder angle and distributor in the rear; easy to tell the difference once you've seen it.

Dick Steinkamp
09-09-2009, 08:52 PM
quote:Originally posted by rockne10

The Studebaker 289 looks like a big block next to the Ford 289; wider cylinder angle and distributor in the rear; easy to tell the difference once you've seen it.


It's easy to tell the difference, but the have the SAME cylinder angle...90 degrees.



Dick Steinkamp
Bellingham, WA

http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww63/dstnkmp/63%20Daytona%20done/PP026-1.jpg

barnlark
09-09-2009, 09:00 PM
Originally posted by Helping-A-Friend

Once again forgive my ignorance, but was the 289 a Ford? I have about 15 of those. Don't laugh if its not, cuz American Motors used a bunch of Ford Internals back in the day...
I hate to admit that but its true... hehe

Now if you have 15 289s....all Studebaker 289s....you'll have even more new friends here! [8D]

rockne10
09-09-2009, 09:39 PM
quote:have the SAME cylinder angle...90 degrees.
"Well shut my mouth." They sure don't look the same.[B)]

candbstudebakers
09-10-2009, 12:43 AM
Shane I have a frame from a 66 4 door, also one from a 64 2 door,even one from a 63 slide top...Bob

Bob Peterson / C & B Studebakers

Castro Valley, CA
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]http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv271/canbstudebakers/IM001154.jpg

jackb
09-10-2009, 08:04 AM
...I have a 63' Cruiser. Nice cabin with appointments if all there and clean. Dash can be a pain.....I find the 289 a bit much for the car being so light. If you could find a nearby 259 drivetrain intact and running, believe me, that would be fine. I know, more power is fun to talk about, but really not needed in that car. Should be able to scare one up real cheap from a rodder or someone here....Good luck...

Shane
09-11-2009, 07:42 PM
quote:Originally posted by candbstudebakers

Shane I have a frame from a 66 4 door, also one from a 64 2 door,even one from a 63 slide top...Bob

Bob Peterson / C & B Studebakers

Castro Valley, CA
canbstudebakers-

]http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv271/canbstudebakers/IM001154.jpg
Bob, the floor panels from the fire wall to the seat are shot so she is just for parts. I recently bought a '64 cruiser a little on the ruff side but she runs great, while resurrecting her, My next quest will be to find a two door post '64 to '66. '64 commander came in a post didn't they??

http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss313/squireshop/ShanesPics_0004-1.jpg http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss313/squireshop/002-1.jpg http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss313/squireshop/006.jpg<div align="left">My first stude '61 champ in 1987</div id="left"> <center>Shane</center><center>Kennewick, WA</center>

Helping-A-Friend
09-13-2009, 09:06 PM
Ok guys sorry it took so long.
The worst part of the car, (without crawling under and checking floors) is the rear deck lid with mud in it from an accident. The Drivers side got swiped and needs work but hood, and Pass side looks almost perfect minus the surface rust of hood...

Here goes...

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Then engine compartment looks remarkably good for a car that you would think would be rusting away or crashed from sitting in this field for years...

Let me know your thoughts,
Snell

5859
09-14-2009, 12:20 AM
I am no expert, but it looks to be a 150.00 to 300.00 car to me.

Helping-A-Friend
09-14-2009, 09:59 AM
Ok, I think he wants $500 for it... I wish I could find Mustangs in this condition for $100-$300. I'd buy em all day.

Well thanks for the info. I'll let the car pass, I wouldn't even know where to start on it really.

Thanks all, and God Bless,
Snell

ozarkman
09-14-2009, 10:30 AM
quote:Originally posted by 5859

I am no expert, but it looks to be a 150.00 to 300.00 car to me.


Sounds about right to me too.

Fred

**I'm not the best speller...FireFox catches most of my mistakes, but I use IE at work**