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showbizkid
09-08-2009, 05:32 PM
...whose idea it was to put the V8 distributor hold-down screw in such a brilliantly inaccessible place :(

Just venting!


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jclary
09-08-2009, 05:39 PM
It was a lot easier to get to when I was younger!

fmarshall
09-08-2009, 05:44 PM
It is easy to get to with a distributor wrench like:

http://www.etoolcart.com/browseproducts/Distributor-Wrench-V201.HTML

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63 Avanti R2, 4-Speed, 3.73 TT
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mbstude
09-08-2009, 05:44 PM
Go to your local FLAPS and get a distributor wrench. ;)

Matthew Burnette
Hazlehurst, GA

StudeRich
09-08-2009, 05:51 PM
Been there done that! Guys it is not the tightening that is difficult, it's the STARTING the darned screw! :( Bah hum bug! [xx(]

I too, could start that thing a lot faster when I was 20!

StudeRich

Mark57
09-08-2009, 05:53 PM
Nifty! As I observed, many jobs are made much easier when you have the correct tool for the job![8D][^]
The trick is having a facility large enough to hold ALL of the tools you will need throughout your life. ;)

<h5>[b]Mark
'57 Transtar Deluxe
Vancouver Island Chapter
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bondobilly
09-08-2009, 05:55 PM
quote:Originally posted by StudeRich

Been there done that! Guys it is not the tightening that is difficult, it's the STARTING the darned screw! :( Bah hum bug! [xx(]




Quick trick.... put a drop of Crazy Glue on the screw and once started spray Crazy Glue remover if it won't come off easy.

showbizkid
09-08-2009, 06:01 PM
quote:Originally posted by StudeRich

Been there done that! Guys it is not the tightening that is difficult, it's the STARTING the darned screw!


EXACTLY!


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www.studebakersandiego.com

Warren Webb
09-08-2009, 06:13 PM
Tool needed- a mechanically inclined grandson under the age of 5 whose hands have not grown big enough to be able to reach in with the correct bolt & start it so that grandfather can continue to share in the joy of using that special wobble shallow socket & enough extentions to tighten the bolt once timing is set.

60 Lark convertible
61 Champ
62 Daytona convertible
63 G.T. R-2,4 speed
63 Avanti (2)
66 Daytona Sport Sedan

studeken
09-08-2009, 06:19 PM
Ah, the older I get, the better I was! KP

Ken Pyle

rockinhawk
09-08-2009, 07:13 PM
quote:Originally posted by Mark57

Nifty! As I observed, many jobs are made much easier when you have the correct tool for the job![8D][^]
The trick is having a facility large enough to hold ALL of the tools you will need throughout your life. ;)

<h5>[b]Mark
'57 Transtar Deluxe
Vancouver Island Chapter
http://visdc.shawwebspace.ca/ </h5>

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And the mental capacity to remember where you put them!
Another tip: duct tape across the top of the wrench, stick the bolt in when the job is done the tape will pulloff easy. NT


Neil Thornton
Hazlehurst, GA
'57 Silver Hawk
'56 Sky Hawk
'51 2R16 dump truck
Many others.
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dean pearson
09-08-2009, 07:58 PM
Easy now,
At least you can't blame it on some Japanese guy with little hands.
Dean.

DEEPNHOCK
09-08-2009, 08:02 PM
I just loc-tite a stud in there and then install the lock plate.
(Then drop the washer, lock washer, and nut.....Which immediately disappear never to be seen again[:0][B)])
Jeff[8D]

jlmccuan
09-08-2009, 08:58 PM
Hey, I used the Crazy Glue tip. Typing one-handed-can someone hand me the Crazy Glue remover I left in the house PLEASE. Cell phone is just out of reach from my free hand and I'm bolted to my car...

Jim
Often in error, never in doubt
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JDP
09-08-2009, 09:09 PM
I've noticed I have educated fingers for jobs like that. It comes from installing the bolt for 50 years and it stopped being a issue maybe 30 years ago. I've done that with N8 on occasion, he'll say there s no way in hell to do this or that, and I just do it, but he's my go-to guy when it comes to electrical stuff.

JDP/Maryland

BobGlasscock
09-08-2009, 09:39 PM
Roofing tar or honey. Honey tastes better.

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edpjr
09-08-2009, 09:43 PM
My mechanic brother kept asking the exact same question even after we ordered a $30 distributor wrench. I'm an engineer and he kept giving me dirty looks all night...


quote:Originally posted by showbizkid

...whose idea it was to put the V8 distributor hold-down screw in such a brilliantly inaccessible place :(

Just venting!


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Clark in San Diego
'63 F2/Lark Standard
http://studeblogger.blogspot.com
www.studebakersandiego.com


"Proud owner of a Lark powered Avanti"

jclary
09-08-2009, 09:51 PM
Do you ever wonder if the guys engineering the engines and the folks designing the cars ever saw each other until the annual company picnic or Christmas party? Or what the conversations were like as they discussed what was going to go where and how it was to be set up on the assembly line? There had to be some interesting conversations.

John Clary
Greer, SC
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SDC member since 1975

dictator27
09-08-2009, 11:34 PM
You mean you didn't know? :D In the corner of every engineering department there is a door marked &$%#@*^. Entering it puts you in the office of the frustration engineers whose sole purpose in life is to concoct the single most difficult way to put one bolt - just ONE bolt - in a place where you have to be triple jointed to get at it, but which cannot be left out because doing so will cause the vehicle to self destruct in thirty seconds.[xx(] That's not restricted to modern vehicles, either. Getting the steering box out of my 27 Dictator means dismantling half of the car.[V]

Terry Godkin
Surrey, British Columbia

okc63avanti
09-08-2009, 11:52 PM
You think working on a Stude is bad, try changing an alternator in a 1990 Nissan 240SX !!!!

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52-fan
09-09-2009, 08:53 AM
The problem is that the engine is installed in the car. The guy that put it in the first time didn't have that problem.

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wolfie
09-09-2009, 08:57 AM
Or change anything on an X-19 Fiat. Steve

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gordr
09-09-2009, 09:51 AM
Funny, I've never had trouble with that particular bolt. At least it's toward the rear of the block, where a little room exists.

I was working on a '97 Dodge Grand Caravan yesterday. Had to take the latch out of the liftgate to lube it. The handle body is made of plastic; one end has a hook that slips under the edge of the sheet metal. On the other end is a 6 mm stud. The "nut" on this stud was a plastic rod about 4" long, with a hex on the end. The inner end was a threaded brass insert molded into the plastic. Well, rust on the stud seized the brass insert solid. A six-point socket simply slipped, trying to turn the plastic rod. I ended up splitting the plastic off the brass insert with a cold chisel, and punching the insert through the sheet metal of the door skin. With the handle assembly out, I used a cutting disc on the trusty Dremel tool to slit the brass insert and free it from the stud. (Obviously, if I had applied enough torque to the insert to unscrew it, it would likely tear the stud loose from where IT was molded into the plastic handle body.)

I used pliers to fix the divot I'd made around the hole in the sheet metal, and put the lubed (and now working) handle assembly back in the door. And I put an ordinary captive-washer 6 mm nut into an ordinary 10 mm socket on an ordinary 1/4" drive extension, poked it up through the access hole, and screwed the nut tight, with NO trouble at all. Makes you wonder why the factory specified the special extension nut. Must have saved some monkey on the assembly line one second per car.

Sorry for the rant.

Gord Richmond, within Weasel range of the Alberta Badlands

studegary
09-09-2009, 02:16 PM
This post reminds me that my distributor wrench is one of those tools that I loaned to someone and that did not find its way back to me. People wonder why I do not loan tools like I used to.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

SDC member since 1968
Studebaker enthusiast much longer

Johnnywiffer
09-09-2009, 07:09 PM
Changing the alternator on an '85-'87 Fiero V-6 requires lowering at least one side of the rear suspension. The '88 will come out from the top.

I was working out of town, so my wife took her '87 GT to the usual shop only a few blocks from our house. I'd had this car worked on there previously and had a good relationship with the owner.

What I didn't know was that in the mean time, HE had sold the shop to some guy who was NOT familiar with Fieros. He proceeded to remove the exhaust manifold, breaking every attaching bolt and charged to replace them. When I returned, I went to his shop to discuss the bill (which had already been paid). I took the repair manual to show him the correct way to R&R.

Basically, he told me it was his shop and he'd do as he d*mn well pleased and it was not up to me (or the manual) to tell him how to do it.

Within a year the shop closed and he was gone.

Darn!

John

rockinhawk
09-09-2009, 07:43 PM
quote:Originally posted by JDP

I've noticed I have educated fingers for jobs like that. It comes from installing the bolt for 50 years and it stopped being a issue maybe 30 years ago. I've done that with N8 on occasion, he'll say there s no way in hell to do this or that, and I just do it, but he's my go-to guy when it comes to electrical stuff.

JDP/Maryland

Seems to me I remember someone with a GT Hawk at the national meet in Charlotte having a problem with that bolt in the hotel parking lot. A nimble fingered bricklayer came to the rescue. NT


Neil Thornton
Hazlehurst, GA
'57 Silver Hawk
'56 Sky Hawk
'51 2R16 dump truck
Many others.
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TX Rebel
09-10-2009, 08:47 AM
I have never had much trouble with that dist hold-down bolt, but in recent years, I have such a bad time SEEING inside the distributor that it is almost easier to remove the darn thing when setting the points.
One of F**d's better ideas that I love is the mounting of the fuel pump right on top of the engine on the early 7.3 p-strokes.
It is a snap to change- just as soon as the turbo is removed- and the turbo is a snap to remove once you get the cab out of the way!
Thank goodness that when the pump failed in '08, it happened in my driveway the day after I returned home from SB. It took me 2 days to change it, and I am fortunate not to have had to do the job on the side of the road. I was quoted $550.00 to have it done.
On later versions, the engine is tucked so far under the the cowl that it looks like the engine compartment of a van and I cringe every time I think of trading for a later model truck.
If only they had thought of removable plate on lower firewall like Studes have...

Barry'd in Studes

4-speed wagonaire
09-11-2009, 09:24 AM
Ah yes, Ford's "better idea" and Gm's "mark of excellence"!

Bill, Many Fords and one great Stude!