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bams50
07-18-2009, 07:53 AM
...from CeRap...

Kind of an unusual car- 259 Auto TT, P/S, rear A/C that looks original. Has very nice reclining bucket cores, couple decent door panels, almost perfect dash and excellent red and white wheel. Has a clock in the glove box door. Also a really cool vintage SW tach![8D]

Mainly I wanted the rear end assembly. Checks out to be a 44 TT, 3:31 gears. Must be good shape, it made the 700-mile trip without any trouble! As a bonus, has an excellent pair of taillights[8D]

Engine has oil in it and the rad's full of green anti-freeze. Missing the A/C compressor and brackets:(. Maybe next week I'll rig up a can and see if it runs. If it does I'll put the driveshaft back in and try the trans.

Picked the car up in IL. Bought it off Craigslist last month. Typical story- rural area being crowded by development and the car had to go. Floors and frame are rough, so she's definitely a parts car.

Well worth the $400, but the 1400 mile round trip would have killed the deal;) But since I was going through there anyway......

Question- Shouldn't a Cruiser have higher-level trim on the outside??

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63t-cab
07-18-2009, 08:06 AM
Bob, I had a 62 Cruiser parts car and I seem to recall it had the same trim as lower level Larks.

Joseph R. Zeiger

53k
07-18-2009, 08:28 AM
quote:Originally posted by bams50

...from CeRap...
Kind of an unusual car- 259 Auto TT, P/S, rear A/C that looks original. Has very nice reclining bucket cores, couple decent door panels, almost perfect dash and excellent red and white wheel. Has a clock in the glove box door. Also a really cool vintage SW tach![8D]
Mainly I wanted the rear end assembly. Checks out to be a 44 TT, 3:31 gears. Must be good shape, it made the 700-mile trip without any trouble! As a bonus, has an excellent pair of taillights[8D]
Engine has oil in it and the rad's full of green anti-freeze. Missing the A/C compressor and brackets:(. Maybe next week I'll rig up a can and see if it runs. If it does I'll put the driveshaft back in and try the trans.
Picked the car up in IL. Bought it off Craigslist last month. Typical story- rural area being crowded by development and the car had to go. Floors and frame are rough, so she's definitely a parts car.
Well worth the $400, but the 1400 mile round trip would have killed the deal;) But since I was going through there anyway......
Question- Shouldn't a Cruiser have higher-level trim on the outside??

What is the body number? I doubt if it is a Cruiser. I would have to check, but I think by '62 all Cruisers were 289s. The clock should be between the speedometer and the gauge cluster- may have been moved because of the tach. The rear windows should have opening vent wings- doesn't look like it does. The trunk a/c may be an early Novi unit ('55 to '57), but it definitely isn't original. I suspect it is a Regal that has had a bunch of odds and ends added over the years.




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bams50
07-18-2009, 09:10 AM
It is a 62V-Y8, "Y" denoting long wheelbase; and it does have the rear vent windows. Also says Cruiser on the front fenders; so it must be, right?

The usual, uncut blank is in the clock position you mention behind the tach. The tach itself is a pretty cool piece, complete with the accompanying big control sturgits on the firewall[8D]

The engine is a V560,xxx which if I read it correctly makes it a 62 Lark 259. Must be a swap.

The A/C is complete including the two hard plastic vent tubes that go on top.

It's pretty neat sleuthing these things...

Robert (Bob) Andrews- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys)
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r1lark
07-18-2009, 09:21 AM
Pretty neat, Bob! Is that a shrunken head hanging from the rearview mirrow?

BTW, please email me off-Forum with contact info on whoever purchased your 4-door Skytop.

Paul
Winston-Salem, NC
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Dave Bates
07-18-2009, 10:49 AM
I think only the Cruiser and Daytona had the woodgrain dash.Also.make sure to save the water collector on the firewall if it's good,they are very hard to find.Sounds like a great trip.

dpson
07-18-2009, 11:11 AM
Bob,
That's definately a higher trim level dash with the padding around the radio and the white faced instruments. I'd be interested in the whole dash if it's something you want to sell.

P.S. The Bud Light can in the back is non-vintage. Wonder how that got in there.....

Dan Peterson
Montpelier, VT
1960 Lark V-8 Convertible
1960 Lark V-8 Convertible (parts car)
1961 Lark Crusier
1962 Lark V-8 Regal Convertible

StudeRich
07-18-2009, 01:09 PM
quote:Originally posted by dpson

Bob,That's definately a higher trim level dash with the padding around the radio and the white faced instruments.
Actually this car appears to be a real Cruiser, but they came with a black faced clock, so it has been replaced, moved and the dummy from another car installed. The gauges on '62 Regal, Daytona & Cruiser were Black, so they have been downgraded to the '61 and Deluxe '62 type. Also of course, as Paul said the engine has been replaced with a 259.
I can't see both of them, but I am pretty sure it has the factory option '61 Lark SW Ampmeter and Oil Pressure gauges added, which could be why all the Instruments were changed to White faced!

It has had the '55-'57 A/C added and even that Daytona gold Lark bird on the "C" pillar has been added.

So this Cruiser was once owned by a typical multiple Stude. owner who like many, enjoyed the ease of the great interchangeability of different years and models of Studebaker parts to customize his cars to suit his tastes rather than the designers! [:0]

This definitely IS a "special" car Bob, too bad it is so far gone it has to be parted out, but hey we can't save them ALL! :(

StudeRich

bams50
07-20-2009, 11:19 AM
Thanks for the info, Rich! I knew you'd have the scoop on it. It does have the full set of gauges, as you guessed. And no, that's not a shrunken head on the mirror, but a pair of really tired fuzzy dice;) Would be a really nice car restored but the floors and especially the frame are totally shot[xx(] At least it's equipped to give some really good pieces to savable cars...

As for the beer can- one of the guys where I bought it tossed that in as a christening for a safe trip. I had no problems as usual, so maybe the can was the secret! I'll have to start adding one to every car I drag home 700 miles[:o)]

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259man
07-20-2009, 11:56 AM
My '62 Cruiser came standard with the 259.

As I understand it, the 289 was standard in Cruisers starting in 1963.

Cool car, Bob!



Tom
1960 Lark VIII
1962 Lark Cruiser

studegary
07-20-2009, 09:21 PM
quote:Originally posted by 259man

My '62 Cruiser came standard with the 259.

As I understand it, the 289 was standard in Cruisers starting in 1963.

Cool car, Bob!



Tom
1960 Lark VIII
1962 Lark Cruiser


I believe that you are correct. 1961 and 1962 Cruisers had a 259 standard with a 289 as an option. 1963 and 1964 Cruisers had a 289 as standard with R series engines as options.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

SDC member since 1968
Studebaker enthusiast much longer

bams50
07-21-2009, 11:09 AM
Stuck home doing office work today:([}:)][V] so needed a break. Threw a battery in the old girl. Turns over and makes oil pressure; carb is stuck. Every light works, down to the license plate lights! Rear A/C has two blowers, left and right, both work fine. Wipers and radio also work.

I pushed it into the garage and sprayed some PB Blaster on the carb shaft. Maybe it'll free up enough to start the engine. If it runs I'll put the driveshaft back in and try the tranny. I'll get back to it this week sometime.

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bams50
08-01-2009, 04:10 PM
Well, me and my young helper Elvis (yes, that's his real name!) finally had some Stude time, and spent it on the Cruiser. The carb was hoplessly stuck, so I switched it with another Stromberg I had that was decent. Filed the points and filled the float bowl and gave it a try- no fire. Checked for spark at the plug, nice and strong. It turns slow and makes a metallic screeching sound from the front of the engine. I pulled the belts to rule out any accessories; still makes that sound; like something's dry. Ultimately I gave up- I have no immediate need for the engine, and when I do I'll investigate further. It's full of oil, rad's full of green coolant, and it makes oil pressure, even turning slowly. I bet it's a good engine, definitely a good core for a rebuild.

Elvis pulled the A/C unit from the trunk. Looks pretty decent and both fans blow, so I didn't want to leave it potentially exposed to the elements. It's in good shape, all the way to the plastic deflectors at the top, inside the car. It's safely inside.

Looking at the car, the headliner is in remarkable condition- no holes, tears, or stains. I thought, too bad it can't be saved and reused... but no one to my knowledge has ever done so. Still, the rear window was smashed, so I pulled the rubber and started pulling at the glued edge. It seemed supple, so we pulled the rear seat and started on the C-pillars. Before we knew it, the headliner was out in one piece and unharmed, including the perfect 2-tone B-billar trim! The trick was at the front; I pushed the windshield out at the top just enough to free the headliner fabric, removed the headliner, and hooked the gasket back in.

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The discolorations are only dirt; I tried a little Windex on one spot and it cleaned right up[8D]

I have no idea how well, or even if, it will take to reinstallation in another Cruiser, but at least there's a chance of it.

I had a rear window already out of another car with a gasket on it, so I set it in the opening. She also yielded an original bumper jack and two perfect taillight assemblies, including perfect lenses and even body-to-bezel gaskets that peeled of like brand new! I stuck a loose piece of plywood in place of the broken RF window, and out back she went. The rear proved to be a 44 TT with 3:31 gears; that'll go into my Daytona project someday, along with the near-perfect dash.

Good day, good parts, and good therapy messing with this stuff[^]

Robert (Bob) Andrews- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys)
Parish, central NY 13131
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Skinnys Garage
08-02-2009, 02:13 AM
Wow Bob, that's a pretty cool trick getting a 47 year old headliner out in one piece![:0]

I believe the headliner should fit any '62 4-door sedan as they are all basically the same car. All 4-door sedans for '62 carried the "Y" on the trim tag for 113" wheelbase. The Y4 is the DeLuxe, Y6 Regal and the Y8 like yours is the Cruiser. I have a Y4 Deluxe and a Y8 Cruiser, they are nearly identical (including side trim) from the outside except for bumper guards, stainless drip edge and the rear vent windows.

I've had them for about 15 years and always considered them parts cars, but now I'm not so sure about the Cruiser. It's actually a pretty solid 60K car with TT, bumper wings, PB, clock, AC (gone now) and a pretty cool VIN# 62V20000. The engine is stuck and most of the side glass has been out of it since I got it, so it's not pretty inside (hence the parts car mentality).

Too bad we're not about 1300 miles closer, we could combine the two and make one good one![:p]

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Skinny
Watertown, SD

bams50
08-02-2009, 08:40 AM
quote:Originally posted by Skinnys Garage

Wow Bob, that's a pretty cool trick getting a 47 year old headliner out in one piece![:0]

I believe the headliner should fit any '62 4-door sedan as they are all basically the same car.

Yeah, that's the upside of Northern cars. Southern/Western cars don't rust like here, but ours don't get cooked like theirs. Frequently our interiors are well-preserved. This one has a gorgeous dash, and aside from the bottoms the door upholsteries held up fairly well. Downside of course is the floors and frame[xx(] Maybe I'll come across a solid one that needs a headliner- who knows?? Headliners don't cost that much, but it was so nice I couldn't resist trying. I can't remember the last time I saw a headliner that didn't have at least ONE mouse hole!

Are you sure the headliner will fit a regular sedan? I thought the Cruisers were longer WB, and therefore different headliner...


quote:Too bad we're not about 1300 miles closer, we could combine the two and make one good one!

Story of my life[xx(]:)



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N8N
08-02-2009, 08:49 AM
if the windshield is solid you might as well save that too, I had a heck of a time finding one for my '62 a couple years ago. I believe that they have since become available, but only in tinted.

As of a few years ago, SASCO still had '62 woodgrain glovebox doors, so that dash can be "made right" if the rest of it is in good shape. The top pad is NLA but they had scads of the knee padding. Do I see the rare accessory oil pressure gauge and ammeter drilled into the dash? Dang I would have given a LOT for that setup when I had my own '62!

Let's see that tach - it might be worth more than you think, if it is a Sun brand and still functional.

nate

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mbstude
08-02-2009, 09:29 AM
1961 was the last year that a Cruiser was on a longer wheelbase. Starting in 62, the bodies were the same between Cruisers and "regular" 4 doors.

Bob, I sent you an email via the Forum about some parts off this car. Did you get it?

Matthew Burnette
Hazlehurst, GA

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bams50
08-02-2009, 09:32 AM
quote:Originally posted by N8N

if the windshield is solid you might as well save that too, I had a heck of a time finding one for my '62 a couple years ago. I believe that they have since become available, but only in tinted.

As of a few years ago, SASCO still had '62 woodgrain glovebox doors, so that dash can be "made right" if the rest of it is in good shape. The top pad is NLA but they had scads of the knee padding. Do I see the rare accessory oil pressure gauge and ammeter drilled into the dash? Dang I would have given a LOT for that setup when I had my own '62!

Let's see that tach - it might be worth more than you think, if it is a Sun brand and still functional.



Windshield looks good, and yes it does have full gauges. There are a couple minor chips in the finish on the dash, but that should clean up very well overall; thanks for the tip on the glovebox door.

I wondered about the tach too. It's got somekind of control unit almost as big as itself under the hood. I'll put up a couple of pictures this week.

Robert (Bob) Andrews- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys)
Parish, central NY 13131
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bams50
08-02-2009, 09:40 AM
quote:Originally posted by mbstude

Bob, I sent you an email via the Forum about some parts off this car. Did you get it?


Just got, just replied:) Keep in mind, while I can do the Forum from my iPhone, I can't get my e-mail; so I only see it once or twice a day. Thanks![^]

Robert (Bob) Andrews- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys)
Parish, central NY 13131
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Skinnys Garage
08-02-2009, 11:30 AM
quote:Originally posted by bams50


quote:Originally posted by Skinnys Garage

Wow Bob, that's a pretty cool trick getting a 47 year old headliner out in one piece![:0]

I believe the headliner should fit any '62 4-door sedan as they are all basically the same car.

Are you sure the headliner will fit a regular sedan? I thought the Cruisers were longer WB, and therefore different headliner.

Robert (Bob) Andrews- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys)
Parish, central NY 13131
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I'm afraid Matthew is right Bob. By '62 the bean counters must have decided it was cheaper to use "misdirection" with the use of rear vent windows, rather than build a whole different car. All the 4-door sedans are built on the 113" chassis with the same body.:(

I don't believe that makes either of our Y8 Cruisers less special though, just more "cloneable".;):D

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Skinny
Watertown, SD

N8N
08-02-2009, 05:20 PM
careful when you pull that dash, there should be a separate add-on harness for the ammeter, make sure you get it all out intact or at least close enough to so that it can be used as a pattern. I don't believe that is available anymore, or at least the part number didn't come up when I punched it into SASCO's web site. (maybe they've found some since; this was a few years ago.)

nate

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bams50
08-02-2009, 07:24 PM
Good tip Nate, I'll watch that harness. Ultimately I'd like to pull the dash and harness complete, clean, check, and re-tape it, and install. I put it off for now because I know it's a few-hour job. Maybe I'll bring it back in and get it out before Winter...

How much harder is it to pull the dash with the windshield in? I've done it twice with the windshield out.

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