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    I'm asking for my fellow Stude and Forum folk to give thier opinion on a subject. I not trying to come across as a whiner, or a big baby but would like your feedback.
    My kids and I went to a wonderful show last Sunday(skipped church). I've been a participant for 5 years now. The first 2 years in a 49 Hudson, the last 3 a 66 Daytona.
    It's rough; floors are rusty, fenders are rusty, paint is just about non existant(someone hosed it over sometime in it's past). I've been gathering parts for the 4 years I've had it, new sheet metal, grill parts, rockers and so on. I hope this is the winter I'll tear it apart and have it look nice by next spring.
    The Daytona was absolutely the roughest one there. Point being my daughter and I were made to feel that the car didn't belong there.(it is an orphan) My daughter, whom the car belongs to and to whom I promised to have done by age 16, sat by her car for a good part of the day. She was the recipient of several negative comments. "Did ya just drag that thing out of a barn?". "I bet ya bought it off ebay and drug it here,huh". "Where's the wrecker that brought it here". Last year a guy commented about it's being a "rough one" and I said to him "I'm here, where's yours and how much did ya spend on it". I even had a couple of negs from Stude guys. I realize that they aren't typical of Studebaker family folk, but wondering if I should go to any events with it's not being pretty. Three years ago spring, I showed pictures of it to the main organizer, he said "bring it".Underneath all of the ugly is a 56k mile 230 that runs like new, a completely rebuilt front suspension,serviced trans that works perfectly,new exhaust system from manifold back with all of the correct bends and hangers, a 331 factory twin track that has had seals and new gear oil installed, brakes completely gone through, new tires, a drive shaft the has had new U joints installed, a gas tank that's been completely cleaned out and sealed, an electrical system that works perfectly including BU lights, park lights, headlights, turn signals, radio,glove compartment light, park brake warning light, clock and heat/defrost system(gets cold in Michigan).
    I absolutely would go anywhere in it, including Cedar Rapids or to Bob Peterson's in Calfornia. It's taken 4 years to get it to this point and now I'd just about rather give it all away. It's been a fun thing for kids and I to do to distact us from some of the bad stuff in the world and in our lives. Folk loved my Hudson when I had taken it in the past. I'd tell folk to sit in it, start it up and see how it feels. My cars have always been drivers as in "Studebaker Drivers Club". I traveled all over the country in a 57 Broadmoor for several years and put right at 200k on it. I've never been afraid to drive em, cause I knew what they were made of and what I'd done to them to remove the fear. Not everyone can have a show quality car, but the desire and ability and know how is there, but not the money it takes.
    I did a show quality 63 Lark, which I still own, for my Dad back in the early eighties. It was fun, but ya had to be so protective; rubbin and wipin and cleaning. Took some of positive edge off.
    I don't mean to run on and on, but I've had this on my mind since Sunday. Shoulda gone to church and skipped the show.
    Kim

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    Too bad you get a bad reception. Not everyone has good manners and maybe some are just doing some good-natured ribbing. In any case I wouldn't bother going where I didn't feel appreciated. Maybe you should try doing some of the evening cruise-ins in your area. That crowd may be more receptive. Otherwise I think your last sentence answers your own question.
    All the best,


    Tim K.
    '64 R2 GT Hawk
    Tim K.
    \'64 R2 GT Hawk

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    • #3

      The most important thing here is you had some quality time with your daughter and you got a kid interested in an old car. More quality time is ahead, even if its not at a Sunday show.
      Bill

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      • #4
        Originally posted by kamzack
        My daughter sat by her car for a good part of the day. She was the recipient of several negative comments. "Did ya just drag that thing out of a barn?". "I bet ya bought it off ebay and drug it here,huh". "Where's the wrecker that brought it here".
        I even had a couple of negs from Stude guys.
        I did a show quality 63 Lark. It was fun, but ya had to be so protective; rubbin and wipin and cleaning. Took some of positive edge off.
        Kim the comments your received at the show infuriate me. Don't loose any sleep over them.
        I feel especially bad for your daughter.
        I also drive an original paint vehicle, surface rust and all.
        I get sick and tired of the A** holes who ask when I'm going to paint it.
        WHAT MAKES YOU THINK I [u]WANT</u> TO PAINT IT!!
        I DON'T WANT A TRAILER QUEEN!
        I can let the kids climb all over it and not worry about the shine. I use it to drive, haul and work for me.
        There is a mind set out there that if you have a classic car it has to be in pristine condition, and if it's anything other than that, don't bother to bring it to a show. I despise it.
        Don't get me wrong, I love shiny paint and chrome, just not on mine at this point in time.
        Maybe some day down the road she'll get a new coat of paint but as of right now I like it just the way it is. She's a driver.
        OK...rant over[}]
        Check out the "Good Guys" car shows. They attract old looking vehicles...rat rods etc. You and I would fit right in at one of their shows.

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        • #5
          You sure hit a nerve with me. We have a car show on Tues nights, in Solon Ohio. It is one of the biggest in the state, over 200 cars per week. I am also fortunate that it is only ten minutes from my office. It also had the rudest, cold, snobbish people I have ever met in the hobby and that includes working in a museum for over nine years. I love showing my car, it is completely 1962 orginal. I allow children to sit in it. Fathers take photos of their kids behind the wheel. It kills the "classic" 57 Che### owners that no one pays attention to their cars when Stuart is there. I could never understand for the life of me what gives people the right to come right up to my chair and exclaim how ugly my car is, would they say the same thing to a girl I was dating? I was at Solon one night, having a conversation with a gentleman in his 70s. He had a stunning 1937 LsSalle Touring Sedan. He opened the car and let me look inside. The car was next to a 1995 Vet. Then this mid life late forty something runs over and yells at the old man" hey buddy, could you move your car, your too close to me." I told him, this man is old enough to be your father, show respect, besides his car is probably worth more than yours and maybe he doesnt need an extension of his manhood like you do.

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          • #6
            I've been to Solon for that once in my Lark, being fifteen minutes away. I rather go to my golf league in it. Most are very nice and complimentary, but I never let the 2% get to me. If I wanted to fit in, I would and buy a big three car. I refuse to be over-sensitive about having a Stude though. It comes natural living near Cleveland. Why defend the choice and sound like a baby? Have fun and laugh it off. They'll go away. You have the power to make it a good experience, or get touchy about it. Even here, everyone has different tastes. Plenty of car idiots to go around, they aren't unique. Insecure people say things to make themselves feel better. It will never end.
            Kim, hang in there and take plenty of pictures of the before, so the after will bring a satisfying smile when the money and time permits. You and your daughter are larger than that. Thanks for representing the SDC, anyway. [^][8D]



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            • #7
              Take a look at Gus in the picture can you imagine the nerve 0f me taking him to car Shows putting eyeballs and eyebrows on him Buck Teeth. Well some people get really offended that he is by their beautiful Cars. They ask when are we gonna fix him up? I say he's already done. It takes all kinds most people just love him. Driving a Studebaker is an experience all buy itself, they aren't brave enough to Dare to be different. Now me I get the Brand out there every chance that I get any reaction to our Studes is a good one in my book. Sometimes it hurts but stay positive I purposefully bring less than perfect Studebakers to Car Shows because we are all not the same and they need a reminder. They were all born to be driven. So please take your car out in public if that show bothers you take it to another. Nice to hear that mechanically you have the hard part done.

              Mabel 1949 Champion
              Hawk 1957 Silverhawk
              Gus 1958 Transtar
              The Prez 1955 President State
              Blu 1957 Golden Hawk
              Daisy 1954 Commander Regal Coupe
              Fresno,Ca
              Mabel 1949 Champion
              Hawk 1957 Silverhawk
              Gus 1958 Transtar
              The Prez 1955 President State
              Blu 1957 Golden Hawk
              Daisy 1954 Regal Commander Starlight Coupe
              Fresno,Ca

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              • #8
                I am sorry for the poor reception that you received, especialy on your daughter's behalf.

                Your story reminds me of the first time that I went to Macungie. I had preregistered. I drove my 1953 Commander Starliner hundreds of miles to get there. Like your car, I had the mechanicals done, but hadn't done the body work, yet. When I got to Macungie, I was stopped at the entrance gate and told that I couldn't bring that in. I sat there and calmly explained that the car was preregistered and how far I had driven the car to get to their show. They finally begrudgingly let me enter. I sat there at the gate until they did. Once in the showgrounds, I had no problem. I have been back to Macungie, in other cars including a 1963 Avanti, and enjoyed it there.

                Gary L.
                Wappinger, NY

                SDC member since 1968
                Studebaker enthusiast much longer
                Gary L.
                Wappinger, NY

                SDC member since 1968
                Studebaker enthusiast much longer

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                • #9
                  If it drives, and its a stude, be proud! (heck, if ya got a stude at all, you should be proud!) Mine is about a 5 out of ten, I would say. Driver, some blemishes, not pristene by any meanss . (the wife noticed the paint fading for the first time this summer) Oh well. I drive it, I love it, I take it to shows, and honestly, I am usually in good company. I like seeing the rougher cars anyway, they have tons of character. every ding, every rust spot, every crack has a story. I would never put anyones classic down.




                  1963 Lark, 259 V8, two-tone paint, Twin Traction. Now that the salt is off the roads, she is getting back into regular rotation!

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                  • #10
                    It was not just my Stude being insulted, it was an older gentleman being disrespected by a Vett owner. I have southern upbringing and I cannot stand by while an elder is being disrespected.

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                    • #11
                      You can find unfeeling folks anywhere and it is indeed unfortunate when they behave badly in front of the young ones. [V]

                      But, we are the Studebaker DRIVERS Club, so to me driving them is the best (and most important) part. [8D][^]

                      Best to always take the high road in these situations as you always have to go home with yourself.

                      <h5>Mark
                      '57 Transtar Deluxe
                      Vancouver Island Chapter
                      http://sdcvi.shawwebspace.ca/ </h5>


                      Mark Hayden
                      '66 Commander

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                      • #12
                        I love taking BABY to shows and cruise nites the way she is, needing paint rust holes showing and all. It really gets good when they put me between a late model Vette and a late model Stang and people come by and say that they can go to a dealership to see them but look at this old Studebaker you never see one of these any more. then I can tell them how much fun it was to pick her up in minn. and drive her to S/B and then to Arkansas. I also regale them with the history of Studebaker. Don't let it get to you. tell your daughter that it takes all kinds to make up the world. Different strokes for different folks. By the way BABY is a 66 cruiser.

                        studedick from the lower Ozarks

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                        • #13
                          Not all people who come to car shows are nice. Along with my Studebaker and T-bird, I have a nice '65 Corvair Convertible that I take to shows once in a while. It is treated like a red headed step child. I get much better response with the Studebaker. Just about everone likes it. The funny thing is that people want to know who built the Studebaker!

                          Robert L. Hutchins

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                          • #14
                            Barnlark, S Ferrell, what cities in Ohio are you all from. I was born and raised in Niles Ohio.

                            1956 Studebaker Pelham Wagon Houston, Texas
                            Remember, \"When all is said and done. More is always said then ever done.\"

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                            • #15
                              quote:Originally posted by kamzack

                              In my family circle we have a group of cars and trucks that are far away from perfect. But we have they, drive them and show them for ourselves. And if others enjoy them good on them if they don't eeeh to bad.

                              I always have the same mindset if ya like say so (if you want to) if you don;t move on i'm not interested.

                              But like all things some people just have to run their mouth. It's the same in every hobbey. And all ya have to do is ignore them. I don't even respond it only keeps them going.

                              Your doing your thing with your car as a family project how good is that. Take that feeling and let it shine. And let the yaking idiots babble on down the line.

                              Hope you keep going and that it turns out the way you and your daughter want it to be. A nice old car waiting for the next road trip.

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