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Steve T
06-09-2009, 09:17 PM
Musing about the wonderful interchangeability of parts that's a hallmark of our favourite marque, I began thinking there must be a lot of "mutt" Studebakers out there. Some are "phantoms" (eg. a '66 convertible, a '53 Speedster, or a bulletnose hardtop); others are simply expedient ways of getting a fun old ride back into circulation (eg. the '55 sedan with '57 front clip that was in TW a few issues ago). All, IMO, are cool! I think it'd be fun to gather a bunch of those cars together, pictorially, whether in a photo thread here or in a "Mix'n Match Studes" feature in TW sometime. Thoughts?

S.

JGK 940
06-09-2009, 09:25 PM
All for it.

Not sure why, but I particularly like Ks with '53-'54 snouts and '57-'58 fins - and can't wait to see more '64-'66-fendered Champs.

Keoni Dibelka / HiloFoto
In Hawai'i; on Hawai'i; on the Windward Side
If da salt air never chew 'em up bumbye da lava will...

candbstudebakers
06-09-2009, 11:59 PM
Try this on it is the only picture I have of it right now, it is a little different but all most all Studebaker.

http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv271/canbstudebakers/IM001178.jpg

Bob Peterson / C & B Studebakers

Castro Valley, CA

http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv271/canbstudebakers/IM000994-1-1.jpg

Mark57
06-10-2009, 12:36 AM
Hmmm... mix 'n match eh?! [}:)][:o)] How about a '57 pickup with a '63 car engine... [:0];)[:0]:D

(Sorry could not resist.[:p])

<h5>Mark
'57 Transtar Deluxe
Vancouver Island Chapter
http://sdcvi.shawwebspace.ca/ </h5>

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x153/MarkH57/CandyStore1Thumb.jpg

hotrodstude
06-10-2009, 12:53 AM
saw a 1957 golden hawk with a 1962 hawk roof welded on it . it was in banks junk in frederick va. it was about 10 years ago dought it is still there.

JGK 940
06-10-2009, 01:52 AM
...and I know they're not to everybody's taste, but I sure does like me some of them '53 Starlings:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr119/Kalimaikaika/Studemania/53-9Starling.jpg

(with apologies & thanks to the photographers/posters of the shots I photochopped...)

Keoni Dibelka / HiloFoto
In Hawai'i; on Hawai'i; on the Windward Side
If da salt air never chew 'em up bumbye da lava will...

clonelark
06-10-2009, 02:02 AM
Wow i like this 53, Is that a Lark Hardtop with 53 sedan front end and doors? What are the rear fenders?

http://i41.tinypic.com/5cmkz.jpg

lstude
06-10-2009, 06:54 AM
There is 57 front and 55 from the cowl back.

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q8/LHSJR/ParkinglotSpokane015.jpg



Leonard Shepherd
http://leonardshepherd.com/

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q8/LHSJR/MyStudebakernobackgroundsm.jpg

8E45E
06-10-2009, 07:20 AM
quote:Originally posted by JGK 940

...and I know they're not to everybody's taste, but I sure does like me some of them '53 Starlings:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr119/Kalimaikaika/Studemania/53-9Starling.jpg



Wow! That's interesting! A 53 'J' body![^] If they made a hardtop sedan that year, I wonder what they would have called it since the Starlight and Starliner names were still in use in 1953.[?][?]

Craig

Transtar60
06-10-2009, 08:24 AM
quote:Originally posted by Mark57

Hmmm... mix 'n match eh?! [}:)][:o)] How about a '57 pickup with a '63 car engine... [:0];)[:0]:D

(Sorry could not resist.[:p])

<h5>Mark
'57 Transtar Deluxe
Vancouver Island Chapter
http://sdcvi.shawwebspace.ca/ </h5>

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x153/MarkH57/CandyStore1Thumb.jpg
My 8E12 has an 289 from a 57 Commander.:D

http://racingstudebakers.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10056/5E13%20Pic%203.JPG
3E38
4E2
4E28
5E13
7E7
8E7
8E12
8E28

59 Lark
etc

Rick Courtier
06-10-2009, 08:27 AM
Here is the famous Blackbird

http://i470.photobucket.com/albums/rr61/microbrewery/IMG01653a.jpg


http://i470.photobucket.com/albums/rr61/microbrewery/IMG01666a.jpg



Rick Courtier

http://i470.photobucket.com/albums/rr61/microbrewery/screensmall.jpg
1956 Sky Hawk
1956 Transtar
1905 Farm Wagon

Nelsen Motorsports
06-10-2009, 09:46 AM
My car has a 57 Golden Hawk interior, but it is a true 54.

http://i558.photobucket.com/albums/ss29/NelsenRacing/n1558086144_30050401_419-1.jpg
Alex Nelsen
1954 Champion Coupe
Lizella, GA

dean pearson
06-10-2009, 10:07 AM
I would love to see any pix of a hard top bullet nose! Especially a 50 bullet.
Thats what I'm building now and have heard of other ones but never actually seen one.
Dean.

JGK 940
06-10-2009, 12:25 PM
I've nicknamed this one the DownUnderBird and give it top marks for individuality:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr119/Kalimaikaika/Studemania/DownUnderBirdTail.jpg

(many thanks to the Stude fan in Western Australia who snapped and posted this unaltered picture)

Keoni Dibelka / HiloFoto
In Hawai'i; on Hawai'i; on the Windward Side
If da salt air never chew 'em up bumbye da lava will...

TedsHawk
06-10-2009, 12:48 PM
I keep thinking why no one seems to have tried making a 53-55 convertible using a lark conv body tub re skinned with 2dr sedan sheet metal. (not c/k) seems like it would be easier than fabricating a conv out of a c/k body. would make an attractive car I think. any of you photo shop experts willing to give it a try ?

1957 Golden Hawk
"Studebaker? they dont make them anymore"

Bullet
06-10-2009, 12:49 PM
I had a friend in Salem Or that built a '52 hardtop with a built nose. He also made it a carson top. I never saw it completed, as I moved to SoCal, and understand he sold it locally. But I understand it was fairly easy to do, given that most of the parts are interchangable.

allstateguy
06-10-2009, 01:26 PM
my favorite "phantom" Stude would be a 58 hardtop with 56 front and rear. I've never seen one made yet.

JohnP, driving & reviving
an early Lark
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q246/allstateguy/100_0683-1.jpg

Lark Parker
06-10-2009, 01:39 PM
Here's the Possum Smasher:
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n4/larkparker/Dales1953.jpg

Pretty standard conversion fare:
Was a barn car 1955 Champion with AT.

Now has a 259 V8 with 3spd OD.
1962 GT frame, rear quarters, tail lights, and dash.
1953 front end sheet metal and bumpers (both ends).
Thunderbird seats (front and back), Cutlass visors.
At last memory search it had 15, or maybe 16, different car
and truck parts sources in it.
It's not a car that's likely to appeal to purists or rodders.
I wanted to get a 53 Commander but couldn't afford one at the time.
Notice the great stainless work on it. &lt;g&gt;

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n4/larkparker/Miscellaneous/caryreduced.jpg Lark Parker

Just an innocent possum strolling down life's highway.

silverhawk
06-10-2009, 02:10 PM
Thats your car? I've heard about it before, and always thought it was a pretty cool car.

Dylan Wills

'61 lark deluxe 4 door wagon

vegas paul
06-10-2009, 02:46 PM
SteveT (original poster) asked about a bullet-nosed hardtop as a mix-n-match... Here's mine. Isn't mine technically a hard top? (No B pillar!). I don't think this is what he had in mind, however...
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s144/vegas_paul/1462673_3_350.jpg

Las Vegas, NV - Stop by, coffee's on!
'51 Champion Business Coupe G899965 10G-Q4-1434
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s144/vegas_paul/graciestude_edited.jpg

Roscomacaw
06-10-2009, 02:57 PM
Mark says: " How about a '57 pickup with a '63 car engine?"

That's what I'm drivin'! ;) Of course, it ran for 18 years with a donor motor out of a '64 Cruiser, before it got the fresh 63 engine.;)



1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1963 Cruiser
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President two door

mausersmth
06-10-2009, 05:05 PM
Here's my '57 Commander DeLuxe with a '56 face on it!
Just got the build sheet, gonna put her back to original specs (exc. air, tunes, radials and Pertronics module!) She was gray/white when she left South Bend, I want her to look that way again...
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa307/mausersmth/57%20Commander/IMGA0320.jpg

A. Charles Eck, Jr.
Essex, MD
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa307/mausersmth/64%20Cruiser/DSCF0085-1.jpghttp://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa307/mausersmth/57%20Commander/100_1155-1.jpg
Studebakers were made to drive! (Besides, they don't get lost as easy in the Wal-Mart parking lot!)

'64 Cruiser 'Louise'
'57 Commander 4 door sedan 'Bluebird'
'66 Ford F-250
'66 Ford F-100
'53 John Deere 50
'41 John Deere H All-Fuel
'41 John Deere B All-Fuel

dean pearson
06-10-2009, 05:48 PM
Vegas Paul, Very cool car- I really like the Buisness coupes.
Dean Pearson.

JGK 940
06-11-2009, 12:50 AM
<center>http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr119/Kalimaikaika/Studemania/Sensible.jpg

Sensible?

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr119/Kalimaikaika/Studemania/Sporty.jpg

Sporty?

Why not be BOTH?

You CAN Have it All With the Smartest Entry in the Affordable Car Segment:

The Champion Convertible!

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr119/Kalimaikaika/Studemania/57ChampionConvertibleGrayWhitePassS.jpg

Your Ticket to Heaven in '57

Is Waiting for Your 'Test-Dream' NOW

At a Studebaker-Packard Retailer

Near You</center>

Keoni Dibelka / HiloFoto
In Hawai'i; on Hawai'i; on the Windward Side
If da salt air never chew 'em up bumbye da lava will...

JGK 940
06-11-2009, 01:42 AM
http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr119/Kalimaikaika/Studemania/BulletNoseHardtop.jpg

(lifted from http://www.studebakerhardtop.com/1952a.htm )

Keoni Dibelka / HiloFoto
In Hawai'i; on Hawai'i; on the Windward Side
If da salt air never chew 'em up bumbye da lava will...

JGK 940
06-11-2009, 04:03 AM
For TedsHawk: the 1953 Palm Beach:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr119/Kalimaikaika/Studemania/1953PalmBeach.jpg

Keoni Dibelka / HiloFoto
In Hawai'i; on Hawai'i; on the Windward Side
If da salt air never chew 'em up bumbye da lava will...

5859
06-11-2009, 04:16 AM
That 57 convertible is a hot looking car, let's see a 58!

garyash
06-11-2009, 06:26 AM
How about this one that I spotted a few years ago at a car show in Massachusetts:

http://www.studegarage.com/images/other/hawk_custom.jpg

[img=left]http://www.studegarage.com/images/indy/gary_indycar25_vvsm.jpg[/img=left] Gary Ash
Dartmouth, Mass.
'32 Indy car replica (in progress)
'48 M5
'65 Wagonaire Commander
'63 Wagonaire Standard
web site at http://www.studegarage.com

DEEPNHOCK
06-11-2009, 07:32 AM
Here's a pic of Russ & Carol Roberts "1956 PowerHawk" from Rock Hill, SC...
Don't know anything about them, or their car, but I was scratching my balding head when I looked at the pic, and then the description;)
Jeff[8D]
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j54/deepnhock/100_2035.jpg


quote:Originally posted by Steve T

Musing about the wonderful interchangeability of parts that's a hallmark of our favourite marque, I began thinking there must be a lot of "mutt" Studebakers out there. Some are "phantoms" (eg. a '66 convertible, a '53 Speedster, or a bulletnose hardtop); others are simply expedient ways of getting a fun old ride back into circulation (eg. the '55 sedan with '57 front clip that was in TW a few issues ago). All, IMO, are cool! I think it'd be fun to gather a bunch of those cars together, pictorially, whether in a photo thread here or in a "Mix'n Match Studes" feature in TW sometime. Thoughts?

S.

TedsHawk
06-11-2009, 07:44 AM
quote:Originally posted by JGK 940

For TedsHawk: the 1953 Palm Beach:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr119/Kalimaikaika/Studemania/1953PalmBeach.jpg

Keoni Dibelka / HiloFoto
In Hawai'i; on Hawai'i; on the Windward Side
If da salt air never chew 'em up bumbye da lava will...




wow thanks! the 53 looks cool, so does the 57. I would think they would be fun to make for real. I think ill take a nice black 55 palm beach with with skirts

1957 Golden Hawk
"Studebaker? they dont make them anymore"

showbizkid
06-11-2009, 09:47 AM
Wow... those ragtops could have been real sellers if they'd actually made them. The '53 looks very Country Club stylish, and the '57 is right in with the times... what a shame they were never made!


[img=left]http://members.cox.net/clarknovak/lark.gif[/img=left]

Clark in San Diego
'63 F2/Lark Standard
http://studeblogger.blogspot.com
www.studebakersandiego.com

Dick Steinkamp
06-11-2009, 09:58 AM
Keoni gets the Photoshop award of the year for these [8D]...

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr119/Kalimaikaika/Studemania/1953PalmBeach.jpg

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr119/Kalimaikaika/Studemania/57ChampionConvertibleGrayWhitePassS.jpg

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr119/Kalimaikaika/Studemania/53-9Starling.jpg

All nicely proportioned.

Fooled the heck out of me (but that's not saying much ;))

Dick Steinkamp
Bellingham, WA

http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww63/dstnkmp/pics075-1-1.jpg

JGK 940
06-11-2009, 06:08 PM
Many thanks for the hat tip, Mr. Steinkamp... means a lot coming from Ute - er - you.

And now, the 1955 Commander Californian, in Coral:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr119/Kalimaikaika/Studemania/Coral1955CommanderCalifornian.jpg

Keoni Dibelka / HiloFoto
In Hawai'i; on Hawai'i; on the Windward Side
If da salt air never chew 'em up bumbye da lava will...

scott.rodgers
06-11-2009, 06:36 PM
I'd love to see a '58 Packard Hardtop with '57 Clipper trim.

Scott Rodgers
Los Angeles
SDC Member since 1989
'60 Lark HT
'63 Wagonaire

Gary1953
06-11-2009, 07:44 PM
Please keep the pictures coming.
I think this subject would be a great Turning Wheels article.


http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l269/gsandes50/Picture008.jpg
Gary Sanders
Nixa, MO
President Toy Studebaker Collectors Club. Have an interest in Toy Studebakers? Contact me for details.

dean pearson
06-11-2009, 08:02 PM
Keoni, The car you lifted from the hard top site would be just like my future ride if it had a 50 grille.
I'm thinking black on bottom and white top hood and grill with spotlights both sides and a sun visor. Cop car style Tubbed and massive H.P.
By the way very cool pics so far is the 55 wagon yours? I dig that car and it's a first for me when it comes to wagons.
Thanks for your posts they are very cool Please keep em coming!
Dean Pearson.

JGK 940
06-12-2009, 12:57 AM
For 5859:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr119/Kalimaikaika/Studemania/1958PresidentStateConvertible.jpg

Thanks for all these compliments, folks: I'm just playing, here, but it's good to know y'all are having some fun with this stuff, too.

Scott: I've been thinking about a '57 Clipper hardtop since you and I discussed it some months ago - I just haven't found source material I like yet. It'll happen.

Dean: Ditto. I'm prowling for the details. Watch this space. The '55 wagon doesn't exist yet, but I'll be happy to take credit for the design when somebody gets around to building it. Like most of my raw material, the pictures came from eBay listings.



Keoni Dibelka / HiloFoto
In Hawai'i; on Hawai'i; on the Windward Side
If da salt air never chew 'em up bumbye da lava will...

lstude
06-12-2009, 06:46 AM
Since we are doing Photoshop, I did this 63 2dr. hardtop Wagonaire, that Paul Johnson (53K) thought up years ago.

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/63Wagonaire2drhardtop.jpg

Leonard Shepherd
http://leonardshepherd.com/

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q8/LHSJR/MyStudebakernobackgroundsm.jpg

JGK 940
06-12-2009, 12:22 PM
quote:Originally posted by lstude

I did this 63 2dr. hardtop Wagonaire, that Paul Johnson (53K) thought up years ago.Leonard Shepherd


Love it! Guess I don't get the credit after all... oh, well.

Good job, Leonard. Thanks for posting!

Keoni Dibelka / HiloFoto
In Hawai'i; on Hawai'i; on the Windward Side
If da salt air never chew 'em up bumbye da lava will...

tutone63
06-12-2009, 02:26 PM
quote:Originally posted by JGK 940

Many thanks for the hat tip, Mr. Steinkamp... means a lot coming from Ute - er - you.

And now, the 1955 Commander Californian, in Coral:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr119/Kalimaikaika/Studemania/Coral1955CommanderCalifornian.jpg

Keoni Dibelka / HiloFoto
In Hawai'i; on Hawai'i; on the Windward Side
If da salt air never chew 'em up bumbye da lava will...


Okay, this one is my favorite so far!!

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh54/tutone63/63larkside-1.jpghttp://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh54/tutone63/n1005314212_30160111_518999.jpghttp://www.thelincolnforum.net/phpbb3/images/smilies/035.gif


1963 Lark, 259 V8, two-tone paint, Twin Traction. Now that the salt is off the roads, she is getting back into regular rotation!

4961Studebaker
06-12-2009, 06:05 PM
I like the wagon also, take the nose high stance down a inch or two, and leave it like it is [:0]. They don't all have to be to the ground. :)
And the door ding on the trim...;)

Love the photoshop sessions, especially when you can tastefully proportion a vehicle from original origins to something that could have been made.

Keoni....can you change that to all black with the chrome trim for the heck of it????[:p][:p]

ChopStu
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q14/kkad0711/IMG_5406-1.jpg

Steve T
06-12-2009, 07:23 PM
Boy I started something, didn't I? Actually this thread's going in two interesting directions at once: actual cars that, for various and sundry reasons, are hybrids of various models/years (my original focus in starting the thread); and these very interesting, and often very appealing, "what-if" phantoms, made possible through digital imaging technology though they do not necessarily (yet) exist.

Someone echoed my suggestion this might be a TW topic. I'd differ slightly with that: it's two distinct topics...either of which would make entertaining reading in TW. "Mix 'N Match Studes" for the actual "mutt" vehicles..."Studebaker Product Planning Re-Imagined", perhaps, for these nifty phantoms conjured by Keoni et al. Both have their respective charms. Thanks for all the posts...keep 'em coming!

Cheers

S.

(hm, wonder how a '50 nose would fit on a '62 Lark?):D

JGK 940
06-13-2009, 01:39 AM
quote:Keoni....can you change that to all black with the chrome trim for the heck of it????[:p][:p]

Well... I can try:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr119/Kalimaikaika/Studemania/ChopStus55Californian-1.jpg

Looks kinda like a rat rod, but gloss black is a stone BEAR to whip up from scratch... [8D]

Keoni Dibelka / HiloFoto
In Hawai'i; on Hawai'i; on the Windward Side
If da salt air never chew 'em up bumbye da lava will...

4961Studebaker
06-13-2009, 09:29 AM
i didn't envision it looking more hearse like. Your efforts are appreciated though. Would need a bright color, the coral, or cardinal red.

fun thread, wish I had the photoshop skills to do this also.

ChopStu
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q14/kkad0711/IMG_5406-1.jpg

jjones
06-13-2009, 09:52 AM
Does my 47 M with a 57 Commander 259 count?

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff17/jeffhelen/DSCF1042.jpg
Jeff Jones
Tucson Arizona
1947 M-5

JGK 940
06-13-2009, 02:19 PM
quote:Originally posted by 4961Studebaker

i didn't envision it looking more hearse like....need a bright color, the coral, or cardinal red.

Pretty much my reaction, too, while I was working on it; only way it looks right to me in black is as a panel van.

Hmmm...

Keoni Dibelka / HiloFoto
In Hawai'i; on Hawai'i; on the Windward Side
If da salt air never chew 'em up bumbye da lava will...

dean pearson
06-13-2009, 04:26 PM
You guy's nailed it ... A hearse for midgets or maybe a long armed dwarf but hey I would be proud to drive the heck out of it.
Keoni, Is my bullet nose cop car in the works somewhere?
You got me all excited, I cant even get someone to post a pic. of an actual car like mine.
I know at least four exist but have no idea where, who they belong to or what color they are.
By the way what does bumbye mean?
Thanks,
Dean.

Allan Songer
06-13-2009, 04:54 PM
Well, I'm ALMOST finsihed building a '56 "Super Champion." A '56 F4 with '64 Super Lark engine and rear suspension. Add in a T85 and I'm good to go!

JGK 940
06-13-2009, 07:40 PM
Dean: Still looking for source material. It'll happen bye-and-bye (say it slow and lazy... you know, Pidgin-kine: "bumbye") [8D]

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr119/Kalimaikaika/Studemania/1957ClipperTownCountrySportSedan.jpg

All NEW for 1957: The Clipper Hard-Top Sport Sedan from Studebaker-Packard

Keoni Dibelka / HiloFoto
In Hawai'i; on Hawai'i; on the Windward Side
If da salt air never chew 'em up bumbye da lava will...

JGK 940
06-13-2009, 07:41 PM
quote:Originally posted by Allan Songer

Well, I'm ALMOST finished building a '56 "Super Champion." A '56 F4 with '64 Super Lark engine and rear suspension. Add in a T85 and I'm good to go!


Sounds SCHWEET... pics?

Keoni Dibelka / HiloFoto
In Hawai'i; on Hawai'i; on the Windward Side
If da salt air never chew 'em up bumbye da lava will...

56H-Y6
06-14-2009, 09:29 AM
Hi

Love all these interesting body style variatons, it's one of my favorite design drawing exercises. Seeing Keoni's wonderful work makes me want to learn Photoshop to do variation up more quickly and convincingly than drawing and rendering them.

I too imagine convertible and hardtop versions of '56 Presidents and '57 Clippers, '58 Packard and President convertibles (thanks for the lovely advertisement). The '57 Clipper four door hardtop is an idea especially dear to me, add a '56 & '57 President Classic version as well.

I've drawn up a '64 President Salon: imagine a '64 Cruiser body mounted on a 120" wheelbase Hawk chassis, body aligned to rear wheelwell/rear axle line, seven inches added to lengthened hood & front fenders. The grille area has hidden headlights behind three horizontal chrome bars radiating from a framed emblem like in the center of the '64 Hawk grille all backed by a black mesh. The sides are completely clean save chrome wheel lip moulding and rocker panel trim. The rear quarter/rear styling is a clean combination of Studebaker C-K-Hawk & '61 Lincoln. The Lincoln influence is also seen in the rear-hinged center-opening doors. I imagine an ultra plush, four bucket seat/arm chair interior with center console the length of the interior.
I just have to watercolor render these designs to give you all a look, but this gives you an idea of how my mind works.

I think the reason we don't see more of these possible variations show up is the general difficulty and detail work these body construction changes require to execute. Still I'd love to see them built!

Steve

TedsHawk
06-14-2009, 10:20 AM
Another model that I always thought should have been offered by Studebaker and would be fun to make was a long wheelbase sedan and wagon for the 59 model year. Like a "President 400" using the long wheelbase with a lark front sheet metal (4 headlight version of course) and go back to the 56 style fins but with a reworked horizontal taillight and simple full length side trim with maybe just a small area for some color or anodized trim. And wood trim on the wagon. I always thought pinning everything on the "compact" lark lost them some loyal customers who just didn't want a compact. But had no other choice but to move on to a different make. I would think it could have been made up with mostly existing parts.

1957 Golden Hawk
"Studebaker? they dont make them anymore"

JGK 940
06-14-2009, 02:13 PM
quote:Originally posted by 56H-Y6

Hi

I've drawn up a '64 President Salon: imagine a '64 Cruiser body mounted on a 120" wheelbase Hawk chassis, body aligned to rear wheelwell/rear axle line, seven inches added to lengthened hood & front fenders. The grille area has hidden headlights behind three horizontal chrome bars radiating from a framed emblem like in the center of the '64 Hawk grille all backed by a black mesh. The sides are completely clean save chrome wheel lip moulding and rocker panel trim. The rear quarter/rear styling is a clean combination of Studebaker C-K-Hawk & '61 Lincoln. The Lincoln influence is also seen in the rear-hinged center-opening doors. I imagine an ultra plush, four bucket seat/arm chair interior with center console the length of the interior.

You, sir, are spooky. I've been "seeing" pretty much precisely this car for a while, now, or just about all of it, anyway, save the hidden headlights. Mine uses glass covers in a hybrid between the '64-5 Studebaker trapezoid and Engel's for the '66 Imperial. I'll keep you posted.

So, here's the deal:

Steve T's right about this being two topics (although I think it's really three):

1) I'd very much like to see more of what he calls mutts. There have to be more actual photographs of cars like the DownUnderBird, Mr. Eck's '56-1/2 Commander and the square-fendered Champs we've glimpsed from time to time. I'd like to suggest we start a thread called "Mutts" in the Members' Pictures section after getting dispensation from Mr. Shaw to post pics of cars we've seen as well as cars we've owned.

2) I'd also like to suggest a thread in the Pic section for customs, mild to wild, built or not. I've been digging through 289 pages of threads in the General section over the past couple days looking for the wild Barris creation Gary Ash's post reminded me of. Finally found it. This would also be a Real Neat Place to show off Dick Steinkamp's Ute That Stole My Heart.

3) PhotoChops. Mr. Unger's interested; I heard from him on Friday and have started working on the project. I hope to have sixteen or seventeen high-quality phantoms ready for the presses at Turning Wheels by late July. I'm learning a whole new skill set (up 'til now I've used Photoshop to bring out what's already there in my pictures instead of to trick anyone into seeing anything that isn't) and having a blast. Who knows? Maybe I'll start competing on Worth1000.com next. Anyway: thanks for the ideas, folks. Please keep 'em coming.

And please think seriously about the request when I send you a PM through the forum asking to use a well-composed shot for a backgound or highlights, or something (yes, barnlark Dave and Matthew "I am Evil I am Christine" Burnette, I'm talkin' to YOU).

Thanks again all for the compliments and for unleashing my inner Exner.

P.S. Dean: I haven't forgotten you. Seriously. I'm just having a devil of a time finding shots of '50s for grilles, '51s for fenders, and pretty much anything for spotlights... and I haven't yet asked Michidan Branch for permission to do a virtual nose transplant onto his incredibly sweet narrowed, tubbed, raked and mirror-shined silver '52 hardtop: http://www.studebakerhardtop.com/mine.htm

Keoni Dibelka / HiloFoto
In Hawai'i; on Hawai'i; on the Windward Side
If da salt air never chew 'em up bumbye da lava will...

JGK 940
06-14-2009, 02:17 PM
quote:Originally posted by TedsHawk

Another model that I always thought should have been offered by Studebaker and would be fun to make was a long wheelbase sedan and wagon for the 59 model year. Like a "President 400" using the long wheelbase with a lark front sheet metal (4 headlight version of course) and go back to the 56 style fins but with a reworked horizontal taillight and simple full length side trim with maybe just a small area for some color or anodized trim. And wood trim on the wagon. I always thought pinning everything on the "compact" lark lost them some loyal customers who just didn't want a compact. But had no other choice but to move on to a different make. I would think it could have been made up with mostly existing parts.

Please see "You, sir, are spooky" comment, above....

Keoni Dibelka / HiloFoto
In Hawai'i; on Hawai'i; on the Windward Side
If da salt air never chew 'em up bumbye da lava will...

TedsHawk
06-14-2009, 03:34 PM
Yes, I think the c/k chassis would have been a better choice for a sedan, but I would have to be a complete re skin. But it would have given then a much lower car more in line with the 60's competition. My idea is just for a stop gap "big car" for 1959 to sell along side the new lark. But I guess maybe they were worried about having something that could be recognized as to where the lark came from. making it seem less "all new"
now for something a bit different... found this on line, says it was spotted in Switzerland very cool anyone seen it before?
http://i318.photobucket.com/albums/mm432/nbptted/3591424967_7ef03435ef.jpg


1957 Golden Hawk
"Studebaker? they dont make them anymore"

DEEPNHOCK
06-14-2009, 03:41 PM
http://inlinethumb19.webshots.com/22994/1104570514038087468S600x600Q85.jpg
Make sure you visit this years old Webshots site on Stude Phantoms...
Let me know what you need,if anything...
Jeff[8D]
http://rides.webshots.com/album/104540753NKtCAI


quote:Originally posted by JGK 940
&lt;snip&gt;
3) PhotoChops. Mr. Unger's interested; I heard from him on Friday and have started working on the project. I hope to have sixteen or seventeen high-quality phantoms ready for the presses at Turning Wheels by late July. I'm learning a whole new skill set (up 'til now I've used Photoshop to bring out what's already there in my pictures instead of to trick anyone into seeing anything that isn't) and having a blast. Who knows? Maybe I'll start competing on Worth1000.com next. Anyway: thanks for the ideas, folks. Please keep 'em coming.
&lt;snip&gt;


http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j54/deepnhock/1937CEBearfootingArtwithLabelgif-1.jpghttp://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j54/deepnhock/SDClogo4forum.jpghttp://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j54/deepnhock/StudebakerTruckFarmerStickerA-1.jpghttp://www.racingstudebakers.com/avatar_01.jpghttp://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j54/deepnhock/GatorDadBigjpg-1-1.jpg

http://community.webshots.com/user/deepnhock

JGK 940
06-14-2009, 04:19 PM
quote:Originally posted by DEEPNHOCK
Make sure you visit this... site on Stude Phantoms...
http://rides.webshots.com/album/104540753NKtCAI[/b][/navy]

Thanks, Jeff!

There's some great stuff here, folks, from mutts like a crew-cab Champ and a '58 Packard convertible (in Resale Red, no less) to seriously out-there dream machines like what looks like an Avanti-based cab-over tractor for a fifth-wheel racecar trailer.

Who knew?

Keoni Dibelka / HiloFoto
In Hawai'i; on Hawai'i; on the Windward Side
If da salt air never chew 'em up bumbye da lava will...

jeryst
06-14-2009, 09:06 PM
I love the front ends on 53-54 Commander Starliners. I also love the back ends of 57-58 Hawks.

Anyone have a picture of such a beast, even if it is just a Photoshopped one? I'd love to see a 3/4 shot from the front corner, so that you could see the front end as well as the fins.

bams50
06-14-2009, 09:42 PM
Cool thread![8D] I have zero knowledge of Photoshop, so all I can offer is a real one:

http://i.ebayimg.com/17/!BUFor4g!Wk~$(KGrHgoH-D0EjlLlyn79BKLu0W3DzQ~~_12.JPG

http://i.ebayimg.com/13/!BUFo4gwBmk~$(KGrHgoH-EUEjlLluH(EBKLu1cfpg!~~_12.JPG

Robert (Bob) Andrews- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys)
Parish, central NY 13131
http://www.patrioticon.org/images/flag3-1.gif

JGK 940
06-14-2009, 11:27 PM
quote:Originally posted by jeryst

I love the front ends on 53-54 Commander Starliners. I also love the back ends of 57-58 Hawks... I'd love to see a 3/4 shot from the front corner, so that you could see the front end as well as the fins.


http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr119/Kalimaikaika/Studemania/1954GoldenCommander.jpg

(The roof and fins are from an eBay listing. The Commander belongs to someone here, I think, but I failed to note whom. Please let me know if it's yours so I can pull the art or give you credit...and please forgive my having re-posted it without permission. [:o)])

Keoni Dibelka / HiloFoto
In Hawai'i; on Hawai'i; on the Windward Side
If da salt air never chew 'em up bumbye da lava will...

DEEPNHOCK
06-15-2009, 07:56 AM
Who's Hawk is that Bob?
Way cool!
Jeff[8D]


quote:Originally posted by bams50

Cool thread![8D] I have zero knowledge of Photoshop, so all I can offer is a real one:

Michidan
06-15-2009, 09:35 AM
Keoni, you can photoshop my 52 anytime you want. No premission required. What I need to do is updat ethat photo though, the car looks even better now....

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g293/loraxdan66/signature3.jpg
www.studebakerhardtop.com

silverhawk
06-15-2009, 11:13 AM
Wow, that last phantom is awesome!

Dylan Wills

'61 lark deluxe 4 door wagon

StudeDave57
06-15-2009, 01:09 PM
That '54 ROCKS!!!!

Your next mission (should you choose to except it) [:0] :D [:o)]

Let's see a '56 President Classic with a '57 Packard Town Sedan's nose (hood, bumper, grille) on it. Leave the '56 trim down the side.
Another car I'd like to see is a '58 Stude with a '57 Stude (or Packard) nose on it... ;)


StudeDave '57 [8D]
Ferndale, WA

'54 Commander Regal 4dr 'Ruby'
'57 Parkview 'Betsy' (she's a 2dr wagon)
'57 Commander DeLuxe 2dr 'Baby'
'57 Champion Custom 2dr 'Jewel'
'58 Packard sedan 'Cleo'
'65 Cruiser 'Sweet Pea'

Lark Parker
06-15-2009, 01:36 PM
If you run out of design projects I started to build a GT Hawk based pickup truck.
Slide the C post forward to eliminate the rear side windows. I dropped the idea after I pencil whipped the bed length as being too small.
I'd still like to see one.

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n4/larkparker/Miscellaneous/caryreduced.jpg Lark Parker

Just an innocent possum strolling down life's highway.

Stude Mick
06-20-2009, 04:29 AM
There is a guy in my club that is talking about taking the roof and tail gate off a rusty 55 2door wagon and grafting it to a GT hawk to build a 62 GT Conastoga wagon. Be an interesting looking vehical, dont think i have ever seen a Hawk wagon before. Hoping he goes a head with it to see how it would look

Michael Pink
Victoria, Australia

1955 Commander Coupe
1961 Lark Cruiser
1962 GT Hawk
1963 Avanti R1

http://www.studebakercarclub.net/amd05a.jpg http://www.studebakercarclub.net/micksavanti.jpg http://www.studebakercarclub.net/mickscommander.jpg

Studebaker Car Club Of Australia Website
http://www.studebakercarclub.net

DEEPNHOCK
06-20-2009, 05:47 AM
Several renditions of Hawk station wagons on this phantoms webshots site....
http://rides.webshots.com/album/104540753NKtCAI
For example:
http://inlinethumb24.webshots.com/12055/1104542968038087468S600x600Q85.jpg
(Done using a parts catalog trim page)
Jeff[8D]


quote:Originally posted by Stude Mick

There is a guy in my club that is talking about taking the roof and tail gate off a rusty 55 2door wagon and grafting it to a GT hawk to build a 62 GT Conastoga wagon. Be an interesting looking vehical, dont think i have ever seen a Hawk wagon before. Hoping he goes a head with it to see how it would look

JGK 940
06-20-2009, 06:30 AM
quote:Originally posted by DEEPNHOCK

Done using a parts catalog trim page


...and quite well, I might add. Thanks for posting.

Wish I could say the TW project was motoring right along but, truth to tell, I'm having a little trouble coming up with source material for some of the chops.

What I want are relatively large (minimum 1500 X 2100 pixels), high-resolution, high-quality photographs of some specific postwar models from some specific angles.

What I need is to make sure I'm clear about the fact we can make this work only with photographs for the use of which we can get permission, in writing, from both the photographer and the car's owner. There are a couple of exceptions to this requirement, but they're pretty rare... and it ain't just cover-my-elemu common sense in a lawsuit-happy society; it's plain old-fashioned courtesy and respect for all the work folks put into turning wrenches and snapping shutters so the rest of us can have fun looking at pretty pictures. The word in Hawaiian is pono.

That said, anybody want to see my wish list? ;)

Mahalo

Keoni Dibelka / HiloFoto
In Hawai'i; on Hawai'i; on the Windward Side
If da salt air never chew 'em up bumbye da lava will...