I need to get started on my Clone i was just going to build a regular 289 up to R2 specs but now i'm wanting a real JT block and heads to make an authenic R2 i know it will be tough finding all the pieces but i really want to get to building an engine. Any R2 engines for sale complete minus the S/C set up? i already have an r2 S/C setup i bought with the car.
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The last I heard SASCO still had some new low compression Truck heads, which is what was used on Avanti R2 and Super Jet Thrust engines to lower the comp. so they could use the same Pistons as the R1.
The block, pan and baffles (windage trays and all the bits and pieces etc. will be the hard part, unless you get really lucky and find a complete JTS engine, I think I would just use your 289 "P" block instead.
StudeRich at Studebakers Northwest -Ferndale,WAStudeRich
Second Generation Stude Driver,
Proud '54 Starliner Owner
SDC Member Since 1967
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quote:Originally posted by clonelark
I need to get started on my Clone i was just going to build a regular 289 up to R2 specs but now i'm wanting a real JT block and heads to make an authenic R2
Dick Steinkamp
Bellingham, WA
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Bellingham, WA
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So, that's an October 7th of 1963 R1 289 built engine. Besides being edit: norm-aspirated, what are the cam, head and piston differences from the R2's and 3's? Still learning this high perf stuff. It's probably in the BP, CA article. [B)]
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Dick is right if you are building the R-2 you need the JTS number and the 84 series numbered heads, the R-1 used the series 70 numbered heads these numbers are the last two in the casting number I have Jt block, a pair of 84 heads and the pan, you can call me if you wish at 510-266-2522 or e-mail at candbstudebakers@sbcglobal.net.....BobCandbstudebakers
Castro Valley,
California
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quote:Originally posted by Dick Steinkamp
quote:Originally posted by barnlark
Besides being non-aspirated,
Dick SteinkampWe've got to quit saying, "How stupid can you be?" Too many people are taking it as a challenge.
G. K. Chesterton: This triangle of truisms, of father, mother, and child, cannot be destroyed; it can only destroy those civilizations which disregard it.
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I've got a JTS block that's cleaned, line-bored and sonic tested. Started life in a 64 GT Hawk It wants a good home[:I]
1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1963 Cruiser
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President two door
No deceptive flags to prove I'm patriotic - no biblical BS to impress - just ME and Studebakers - as it should be.
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Anguish over the correct code stamp for a [u]clone</u> engine? And why call it a clone? If it is built to R2 specs, it will be just as fast and look just as good as any which came with a JTS stamp. A "real JTS block" was just the next 259"/289" V8 block coming down the line when the R2 production order reached the top of the stack - not a bit of difference from any other block. As stated above, the heads are just ordinary truck heads available new and used everywhere. There are very few R2-only parts involved.
A good share of what are selling today as R2 cars do not have the original block and some buyers have learned to their sorrow, are missing some of the R2-only parts. Those aren't clones, they're frauds.
We might note the hard experience of the Corvette guys. They got off into paying exorbitant high bucks for matching number blocks and date coded parts. It lead to a thriving underground counterfeiting business. Finally, the organizations realized they couldn't police it at shows, so they took it off the judging sheets. As always, your car, your money, your decision - just don't expect everyone to get it.
thnx, jack vines
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