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Chris Pile
11-06-2008, 10:05 PM
I like the color, and the cool wheels - but the hood profile from the side looks stupid.
Further - there is no lettering or badges to tell someone this a Studebaker, and I think that sucks!
Check all the huge detail photos...

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/11/06/sema-2008-choppin-block-31-studebaker-model-54/

Chris Pile
Midway Chapter SDC
The Studebaker Special

PlainBrownR2
11-06-2008, 11:26 PM
http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=22896&SearchTerms=Studebaker,and,Toyo,tire


For anyone that forgot here's the artist's rendition from October.;)

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/My%201950%202r5%20Studebaker%20Pickup%20with%20turbocharger/P1000145-1.jpg
[img=left]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/My%201950%202r5%20Studebaker%20Pickup%20with%20turbocharger/P1000137-1.jpg[/img=left]
[img=right]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/DSC00005.jpg?t=1171153370[/img=right]
[IMG=left]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/Ex%20Studebaker%20Plant%20Locomotive/P1000578-1.jpg[/IMG=left]

52-fan
11-07-2008, 09:15 AM
It is a beautiful rod for what it is, but I still don't get the trend for putting a car of any kind on the ground. It serves no purpose toward driving the car and adds to the expense of building it. Still, they are attention grabbers and that is what is most important to these guys.

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s186/52-fan/StudebakersofArkansas2-1.jpg
1952 Champion Starlight, 1962 Daytona, both w/overdrive.Searcy,Arkansas
"I may be lazy, but I'm not shiftless."

klifton1
11-07-2008, 10:43 AM
As much as I like Hot Rods, This one looks like a shiny, highly detailed, impractial rat rod. It's still fun to look at.
Klif

55 Speedster

vegas paul
11-07-2008, 11:29 AM
I saw it in person on Wednesday at SEMA and it blended in with the hundreds of other beautifully done, albeit anonamous rods at the show. Don't get me wrong, it was VERY well done. Seems to me, if you wanted to attract attention and stand out from all the high $$$ rodded creations at the show, all you would have needed was a restored Stude... The crowds would have formed around something different.

My opinion only, but when I go to this type of show, after the first 90 minutes my senses are on overload for chrome, bling, crate engines, and customized everything (including the young "modified" female models!!!). Sometimes something different turns out to be something that was once quite ordinary.

Las Vegas, NV - Stop by, coffee's on!
'51 Champion Business Coupe G899965 10G-Q4-1434
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s144/vegas_paul/graciestude_edited.jpg

JRoberts
11-07-2008, 11:33 AM
Most of these cars have a semi-adjustable suspension. When driving it it is still low, but not slammed on the ground. I like these things, but maybe I'm just weird.

Joe Roberts
'61 R1 Champ
'65 Cruiser
Editor of "The Down Easterner"
Eastern North Carolina Chapter

DEEPNHOCK
11-07-2008, 08:46 PM
Someone 'splain to me the A/C system on this thing...
Jeff[8D]

mbstude
11-07-2008, 08:56 PM
What Jeff said. Why is there an A/C compressor?

Makes no sense.

Matthew Burnette
Hazlehurst, GA
http://www.studebakerdriversclub.com/images/StudeDriveLogo_small.jpg

bridgegaurd
11-07-2008, 09:02 PM
quote:Originally posted by mbstude

What Jeff said. Why is there an A/C compressor?

Makes no sense.

Matthew Burnette
Hazlehurst, GA
http://www.studebakerdriversclub.com/images/StudeDriveLogo_small.jpg


if you ever driven around in a convertable with air on a hot day with the top down you'd know. same concept except with a street rod the cowl, floor and sun make you thankfull for any cool air you can get.

bridgegaurd
11-07-2008, 09:07 PM
quote:Originally posted by JRoberts

Most of these cars have a semi-adjustable suspension. When driving it it is still low, but not slammed on the ground. I like these things, but maybe I'm just weird.

Joe Roberts
'61 R1 Champ
'65 Cruiser
Editor of "The Down Easterner"
Eastern North Carolina Chapter

I guess we belong to the same club, cause i like it also. To bad it's a $100,000 build or more. And is destianed to tile floors and museams instead of a cruze night at the local Artic Circle. Not fond of the hood and wish it had Studebaker on the grill and rear. But it is one nice build i could live with it parked in my driveway.

sals54
11-07-2008, 09:36 PM
I scanned all the pictures and I like it better than the artists rendering. Woulda looked better with a Stude engine. They tried to dupe the Stude with the fake valve cover bolts. The triple exhausts would have made a difference to me. Still one hecka cool ride.

sals54
http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm197/sals54/NewSignature.jpg

Green53
11-08-2008, 12:05 AM
I just got home from SEMA tonight. The car was different but not anything that would be good driver. I shot a few pics myself that I will try to get on. Tried to call you Paul but no answer.
Denny L

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff85/Daytona64/53Stude2015.jpg

PlainBrownR2
11-08-2008, 12:35 AM
Just remember the product it's displaying; Toyo tires. This vehicle is more or less destined to be used as a prop, which is probably why there's not a badge to be found on it. That's also why they decided on a custom, this is image. Imagine the low profile tires you see on the Studebaker you see there......then imagine those same rims and tires on a restored chassis. This is a company now who's biggest draw is the tuner and custom set. Dunno bout everyone else but in Toyo's case and what they're selling and who they're selling to, I can't picture it.
I love seein them on the ground(Hunnert Car Pileup, go figure), and here they are legal, as long as it's not putting a furrow down the center of the pavement or dragging something crucial in the street. I would also presume that the suspension allows for a height that doesn't have em' skirting around speed bumps in the road, which for some of the import cars here makes em look really silly. As to why, and I imagine Stu will chime in on this, part of it is style(just like whitewalls, tailfins, dual antennaes). I think the show on Speed Channel "Livin' the Low Life" is an example of this. The other part I can think of is handling. When the steering geometry(if manipulated) and the center of gravity drop, suddenly you might have a vehicle that may not roll, tip, in general handle like a go kart. Of course it introduces issues that need to be worked out like other customs, the one I can think of is room for the driveshaft inside the tunnel underneath.

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/My%201950%202r5%20Studebaker%20Pickup%20with%20turbocharger/P1000145-1.jpg
[img=left]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/My%201950%202r5%20Studebaker%20Pickup%20with%20turbocharger/P1000137-1.jpg[/img=left]
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bridgegaurd
11-08-2008, 03:26 AM
quote:Originally posted by PlainBrownR2

Just remember the product it's displaying; Toyo tires. This vehicle is more or less destined to be used as a prop, which is probably why there's not a badge to be found on it. That's also why they decided on a custom, this is image. Imagine the low profile tires you see on the Studebaker you see there......then imagine those same rims and tires on a restored chassis. This is a company now who's biggest draw is the tuner and custom set. Dunno bout everyone else but in Toyo's case and what they're selling and who they're selling to, I can't picture it.
I love seein them on the ground(Hunnert Car Pileup, go figure), and here they are legal, as long as it's not putting a furrow down the center of the pavement or dragging something crucial in the street. I would also presume that the suspension allows for a height that doesn't have em' skirting around speed bumps in the road, which for some of the import cars here makes em look really silly. As to why, and I imagine Stu will chime in on this, part of it is style(just like whitewalls, tailfins, dual antennaes). I think the show on Speed Channel "Livin' the Low Life" is an example of this. The other part I can think of is handling. When the steering geometry(if manipulated) and the center of gravity drop, suddenly you might have a vehicle that may not roll, tip, in general handle like a go kart. Of course it introduces issues that need to be worked out like other customs, the one I can think of is room for the driveshaft inside the tunnel underneath.

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/My%201950%202r5%20Studebaker%20Pickup%20with%20turbocharger/P1000145-1.jpg
[img=left]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/My%201950%202r5%20Studebaker%20Pickup%20with%20turbocharger/P1000137-1.jpg[/img=left]
[img=right]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/DSC00005.jpg?t=1171153370[/img=right]
[IMG=left]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/Ex%20Studebaker%20Plant%20Locomotive/P1000578-1.jpg[/IMG=left]


Ain't nuthin but a thing,first street rod/drag racer. 27 turtle back, body, on a 32 frame, olds engine, hydro, olds rear, plywood floor under feet. aircraft seats with bottom cushion, drive line and tailshaft covered with a piece of tin with home made shifter through it. Neutral safety switch HUH?. steering geomertyHUH? I'm just glad it never dropped a tie rod.

I'll take this high dollar designed chassis for a ride any day. But then so would i that old turtle back if i could find it. Just for old times sake. But it and the short that rode in are long gone. A rat rod when they weren't called that. If you don't use a hammer and a cresent wrench it aint rat.

Now if i could just get a set of them toyos under my C-cab Hmmm anybody got a big hammer.

PackardV8
11-08-2008, 11:18 AM
Show cars are an artistic ideal and built only for static display - that they are literally un-driveable is beside the point. It's like looking at Michelangelo's David and saying, "A guy with skin and hair that white and no clothes on would be useless in the quarry, he'd get too dirty and scratched up working." It's sculpture; about the look, the vision - nothing to do with a real, operable everyday car.

thnx, jack vines

PackardV8

Dick Steinkamp
11-08-2008, 05:53 PM
quote:Originally posted by PackardV8

Show cars are an artistic ideal and built only for static display - that they are literally un-driveable is beside the point. It's like looking at Michelangelo's David and saying, "A guy with skin and hair that white and no clothes on would be useless in the quarry, he'd get too dirty and scratched up working." It's sculpture; about the look, the vision - nothing to do with a real, operable everyday car.



So true, Jack. It's just another way to enjoy the hobby...for both the builders of these cars and those of us that get to ogle them [:p].

There are also STOCKERS that could be placed in the same category. Never driven, kept in a climate controlled garage, always trailered, etc. That doesn't make me appreciate them any less for what they are.

Then there are pure race cars. Never could be licensed or driven on the street, but they turn my crank BIG TIME anyway [8D].

Antique tractors to top fuel cars to Riddler Award winners. I love them all and appreciate them for what they are.

If every vehicle has to fit into some specific criteria to be appreciated, you're missing HUGE parts of a very enjoyable hobby.


Dick Steinkamp
Bellingham, WA

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s66/ddstnkmp/Stude-a-mino%20old%20pics/oldpics6asmall.jpg

sals54
11-08-2008, 06:00 PM
Jack, Dick, Right On. There's room in this hobby for all types and sizes. I love the big money cars. They're not my cup 'o tea, but I do love to look at em. Plus, you never know where you'll get your next great idea. I've seen some very curious front suspensions on some of these super low cars. It gives me ideas on how to build mine. Great car, though.

sals54
http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm197/sals54/NewSignature.jpg

DEEPNHOCK
11-08-2008, 07:07 PM
Besides the lack of windows, or the desire to drive with the a/c on and the top down.......
Look REAL close at the compressor lines and tell me how it works...
I want to know.
Jeff[8D]

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j54/deepnhock/SemaStudeMysteryAC-1.jpg

Dick Steinkamp
11-08-2008, 07:09 PM
quote:Originally posted by sals54

Jack, Dick, Right On. There's room in this hobby for all types and sizes. I love the big money cars. They're not my cup 'o tea, but I do love to look at em.


Interesting point.

If I have to buy cars on my budget (and I do :(), this car wouldn't be in my collection.

If I had unlimited money (:D), but could only own 5 cars ([V]), this car wouldn't be in my collection either.

If I had unlimited money and had a 40,000 square foot building to store them in (can you say Jay Leno?), I just might own this one.

It's all relative. If you have to visualize owning the car under your present circumstances, it limits the cars that can appeal to you. If you can enjoy the car WITHOUT that limitation, it opens up a whole new car world.

Dick Steinkamp
Bellingham, WA

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s66/ddstnkmp/Stude-a-mino%20old%20pics/oldpics6asmall.jpg

Sdude
11-17-2008, 10:26 AM
Saw this car at SEMA. I noticed the guage cluster on the dash, and sure enough it was a Stude... It was great to see a Studebaker there in any configuration.

Jon Stalnaker
Editor, Hawk Talks
Karel Staple Chapter SDC
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3108/2848527836_6f817c03fc_t.jpg

JBOYLE
11-17-2008, 10:40 AM
quote:Originally posted by Dick Steinkamp
Antique tractors to top fuel cars to Riddler Award winners. I love them all and appreciate them for what they are.

If every vehicle has to fit into some specific criteria to be appreciated, you're missing HUGE parts of a very enjoyable hobby.



Hear, Hear!

63 Avanti R1 2788
1914 Stutz Bearcat
(George Barris replica)

Washington State

merv
11-17-2008, 04:16 PM
[quote]Originally posted by DEEPNHOCK

Someone 'splain to me the A/C system on this thing...
Jeff[8D]
it looks to me that the compressor is used to power the air bags. check out the filter on the intake side.

mervyn mundorf
63 avanti r2 4speed
83 avanti 20th ann
63 gt hawk canadian
55 speedster
and others

4961Studebaker
11-18-2008, 10:40 AM
quote:Originally posted by merv

[quote]Originally posted by DEEPNHOCK

Someone 'splain to me the A/C system on this thing...
Jeff[8D]
it looks to me that the compressor is used to power the air bags. check out the filter on the intake side.



Hmmm. an engine driven compressor, versus an electircal. I'm no AC expert, whats the cfpm (cub ft per min) of a SADEN or even better the top psi it can build in this configuration? I've seen a compressor get a gauge to 85lbs on a clogged GM system, SLOWLY mind you.

I bet there's a pressure switch that kicks on the compressor's clutch.
looking at the wiring that follows the pressure line.

WHO NEEDS A/C RIGHT

ChopStu
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q14/kkad0711/IMG_5406-1.jpg

DEEPNHOCK
11-18-2008, 11:36 AM
Well now, THAT makes sense (to me anyways)[:p]
If that's what they are using it for, then I am impressed at that use[8)]
Wonder how long Sanden seals will last without oil?
Jeff[8D]


quote:Originally posted by merv

[quote]Originally posted by DEEPNHOCK

Someone 'splain to me the A/C system on this thing...
Jeff[8D]
it looks to me that the compressor is used to power the air bags. check out the filter on the intake side.

merv
11-18-2008, 11:46 AM
quote:Originally posted by 4961Studebaker

[quote]Originally posted by merv

[quote]Originally posted by DEEPNHOCK

Someone 'splain to me the A/C system on this thing...
Jeff[8D]
it looks to me that the compressor is used to power the air bags. check out the filter on the intake side.



Hmmm. an engine driven compressor, versus an electircal. I'm no AC expert, whats the cfpm (cub ft per min) of a SADEN or even better the top psi it can build in this configuration? I've seen a compressor get a gauge to 85lbs on a clogged GM system, SLOWLY mind you.

I bet there's a pressure switch that kicks on the compressor's clutch.
looking at the wiring that follows the pressure line.

WHO NEEDS A/C RIGHT

ChopStu
[img]http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q14/kkad0711/IMG_5406-1.jpg[/ i don't know what the cfm is but i have seen 300 lbs. on ac systems an air tank is alot lighterand easer to maintain than batteries. i used an ac compressor for air on my wrecker years ago with a pressure switch to engage the clutch.

mervyn mundorf
63 avanti r2 4speed
83 avanti 20th ann
63 gt hawk canadian
55 speedster
and others

PlainBrownR2
11-18-2008, 04:24 PM
Even better if one were really savvy they could go the Lightning route with the AC compressor, where the compressor(and system) could be used as an intercooler for a supercharger setup. These compressors as well as emissions smog pumps could also be retrofitted to any, ahem, small displacement go kart, thereby making a supercharger out of the compressor. Before getting into technical why's and the logistics of what seems like insanity, remember, an AC compressor, a turbo, a supercharger, and the electric compressor are designed with about the same purpose and functionality of a compressor, to move air from here to there..... [:o)]

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/My%201950%202r5%20Studebaker%20Pickup%20with%20turbocharger/P1000145-1.jpg
[img=left]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/My%201950%202r5%20Studebaker%20Pickup%20with%20turbocharger/P1000137-1.jpg[/img=left]
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4961Studebaker
11-19-2008, 09:40 AM
a supercharged go kart, now thats just madness[:0]:D[}:)]

I can see it now PlainbrownR2 calling Steinkamp for his kart after the show.........

ChopStu
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q14/kkad0711/IMG_5406-1.jpg

PlainBrownR2
11-19-2008, 03:54 PM
Nahhh I'm just an idea man with these items. While I do my own work on my own stuff, I just drop the bug in his ear in this instance and sits back to see what happens. [:o)]

Andy R.
11-19-2008, 10:57 PM
Just 1 inch of clearance...even 1/2" of shadow. That's all my imagination needs.

I am seriously digging those brushed Centerline smoothies, though.

Andy
62 GT
http://a6.vox.com/6a00cdf7ec2443094f00e398c6501e0004-pi

DEEPNHOCK
11-26-2008, 07:31 AM
And it just won the e-mail voting for 'Best Hot Rod' at Sema 2008 by Car Domain.com..........
Jeff[8D]

http://blog.cardomain.com/blog/2008/11/best-of-sema-20.html
http://blog.cardomain.com/blog/2008/11/awesome-31-stud.html

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Chris Pile
11-26-2008, 01:50 PM
Well, that's a neat pat on the back, but I'm betting that few recognized it as a Stude. They just liked the profile and exposed mechanicals (as Ed Roth used to say).

Chris Pile
Midway Chapter SDC
The Studebaker Special