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51studebaker2R10
10-25-2008, 03:01 PM
Hi everyone, Simon here in Mountain View, California.

I recently picked up this 1951 2R10 after first seeing a Studebaker pickup driving around the Gilroy area and falling for the distinctive body shape. I bought it to be a bike hauler and like the longer bed for this purpose, but I'm new to the American stuff and have lots to learn.

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The vehicle was sitting for many years and has accumulated a nice coating of dust and some rust in non-critical areas that I want to address. It runs in that we got it moving under its own steam after cleaning out the carb and installing a temporary electric fuel pump, however the radiator appears to be shot and it heats up rapidly.

It has the original smaller flathead six still installed. Whilst I want to at least get this engine running to experience the truck in its original configuration (I do like the flatheads!), I reckon I might be better served by installing a 259 or 289 V8 to suit my purpose. I'm not sure what ratios it's running yet, nor how the brakes stop it, but would imagine these areas need attention also?

I've searched through the site and spent some time reading the threads, but haven't found too much info regarding this engine transplant. Starting with the radiator buy, I want to install/upgrade items that will work with the bigger engine and was wondering if anyone here could please give me advice or direction with this project? If anyone can also point me in the direction of a good source of parts/work in the Bay Area it would be much appreciated!

PS can anyone identify this colour?

2R5
10-25-2008, 03:38 PM
Hey welcome aboard .... you maybe should come over and get on the truck page where all us Studebaker truck farmers hang out .....nice truck you have htere good luck with it .
Here's the truck page .
http://www.network54.com/Forum/23885/

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rockne10
10-25-2008, 04:18 PM
Hello, Simon.
Welcome to the Forum.

Looks like you got a pretty solid truck; nice to start with that.

Getting the 170cid six to work as it should is a wise first move. It may not be what you want for hauling but there will always be a market for them.

Installing the V-8 would involve only minor issues but, explore the performance upgrades available to the existing six from Cathcart; only issue is the expense.

Brad Johnson
Pine Grove Mills, Pa.
http://s57.photobucket.com/albums/g233/rockne10/Rockne/th_Rocknegauges.jpg'33 Rockne 10, '51 Commander Starlight, '53 Commander Starlight

Skip Lackie
10-25-2008, 04:33 PM
The V8s were available in the pickups beginning in 1955, so all of the necessary parts to put a V8 in your truck are readily available. Be aware that a lot of things (like clutch and steering linkage, front springs, etc) were different between the Champion 6 and the V8, so your best bet in the long run might be to keep your eyes out for a V8 parts truck, whether the engine itself is any good or not.

Most Stude parts vendors sell by part number, so you will be a lot better off with a parts book and shop manual. The two books you need are the 2R through E (49-56) parts book and the 2R shop manual. They come up on ebay all the time, and reprints are available from the vendors listed on the main SDC web site.

Welcome to the Studebaker truck world. They're great vehicles!

Skip Lackie
Washington DC

Mark57
10-25-2008, 06:01 PM
Welcome Simon! [^] Another C-Cab lover is always welcome. ;)[8D]
And as "2R5" said, you should check out the Studebaker Truck website and Forum. :)

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55 prez
10-25-2008, 06:11 PM
Welcome to the forum. It looks like you have a Studebaker station wagon in the background of one of your pictures so maybe you have a V/8 available. I have a 2R6 which was the big six before I transplanted a V/8 into it. I like the performance much better but I did drive the big six until it quit on me.

starlightchamp
10-25-2008, 06:19 PM
Hi Simon, Welcome to the forum. Regards your questions.
Closest Bay Area parts and service is Studebaker West in Redwood City. 650-366-8787.
There are many parts suppliers listed on line and in the Turning Wheels club Magazine.
The magazine is excellent--join the SDC and it comes with membership.
My guess to color is Mauri Blue if it is still an original color.


1950 Champion Starlight
1963 Hawk GT
Santa Barbara
CA
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starlightchamp
10-25-2008, 06:26 PM
http://www.tcpglobal.com/autocolorlibrary/cgi-bin/search/search.pl

The above shows 51 colors.
Cheers,

Dick Curtis

BobGlasscock
10-25-2008, 09:24 PM
Is that a Lark stationwagon in the background?

'50 Champion, 1 family owner
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DEEPNHOCK
10-25-2008, 10:24 PM
Neat truck (I had a '49 2R10)...
Items of interest (and I am no expert)...
You have a Timken (later called a Rockwell) rear end.
You are limited to your choice of rear end ratio's..
Your 4 speed is tough.
Super low 1st gear (Granny gear)..
No O/D with a 4 speed.
Not really split rims, but rims that have lock rings that only come off with the ring detents aligned.
You had best shop for a real 'old school' tire place to mess with those rims.
Best to let the pro's do them[B)][xx(]
I bought new front springs from Triangle Spring (through a distributor)...http://www.triangleusa.com/products.html
New kingpin bushing kits (w/pins) can be obtained from several vendors.
New glass is available from several vendors (like Phillips glass)..
Rubber is available from Stude vendors, or from Steele Rubber Co.
Remember that the LHS has LH threads on the lug nuts.
Put the biggest battery cables you can find on it.
Your back bumper seems to be a west coast popular item.
I have seen a lot of them out west, but rarely east of the Mississippi (or the Rockies for that matter)...
Either way, that bumper is a stout piece and won't tear your kneecap off like the stock Studebaker rear bumper...
Be careful to check the fuel fill tube rubber hose from the tube to the tank.... It can cause fumes inside the cab if it goes bad...
Nice truck!
Jeff[8D]

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rockne10
10-25-2008, 10:49 PM
I see you have the bedside hooks for the Caravan Top. Gary Ash on this Forum has instructions for fabricating the Caravan Top like original; a vintage item to keep your bike dry.

Brad Johnson
Pine Grove Mills, Pa.
http://s57.photobucket.com/albums/g233/rockne10/Rockne/th_Rocknegauges.jpg'33 Rockne 10, '51 Commander Starlight, '53 Commander Starlight

51studebaker2R10
10-26-2008, 09:55 PM
Wow, thanks for all of the information and pointers. There's certainly lots to digest!

I'll check out the other forum too, and keep up the research.

I'm not sure about the other vehicles in the yard where I bought the truck - there was some interesting stuff there.

studeclunker
10-26-2008, 10:58 PM
quote:Originally posted by 51studebaker2R10

Wow, thanks for all of the information and pointers. There's certainly lots to digest!

I'll check out the other forum too, and keep up the research.

I'm not sure about the other vehicles in the yard where I bought the truck - there was some interesting stuff there.

Welcome to one of the most helpful, frendly car clubs around. It would be very helpful to you to actually join the SDC. This will help you with the refurbishment/restoration of your old gem and also have a side benefit of a wonderful support group.

Great find, congratulations!

That looks like a '59 to '61 wagon in the background.

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JRoberts
10-27-2008, 03:48 PM
That is a good looking truck and would make a great bike hauler. I had a'50 2R6 and toyed with the V-8 thing, but the Commander six worked just fine. Like has been said before on this thread, the later C-cab trucks were available with a V-8 and a V-8 parts truck would be a great help. With that said this and the truck forum are good sources for stuff you cannot find through the many Studebaker vendors. The V-8 will need a different transmission, but those too are fairly readily available.
Good-luck and keep us informed as to your progress.

Joe Roberts
'61 R1 Champ
'65 Cruiser
Editor of "The Down Easterner"
Eastern North Carolina Chapter

51studebaker2R10
10-29-2008, 11:15 AM
Unfortunately due to space constraints a parts truck is out of the question for me, though believe me I would love one!

Should I retain the 2R10 radiator for the v8 transplant, and am I going to want a 289 over a 259? I have the feeling I might like the revvy nature of the 259 from what I hear...

Thankyou!