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oldcarfart
09-29-2008, 09:18 PM
I need a right hand side straight axle steering arm (the style with two tie rod end holes vs. one hole) for a project, anyone got an extra? TIA!! oldcarfart@aol.com

mbstude
09-29-2008, 09:25 PM
Alright Calvin, I'm curious. You're asking for straight axle parts on a Stude forum... What ya buildin'? [8D]

Matthew Burnette
Hazlehurst, GA

oldcarfart
09-30-2008, 08:46 AM
I am looking at making a cross-steering setup (i.e. 32 Ford w/ vega steering box)for Studebakers to use a modern steering box (manual or power steering)with 99% OEM Studebaker existing parts. It's just an experiment now but may be a low-cost alternative upgrade with all bolt on parts. My budget is limited but mechanical resources and experience are documented.



quote:Originally posted by mbstude

Alright Calvin, I'm curious. You're asking for straight axle parts on a Stude forum... What ya buildin'? [8D]

Matthew Burnette
Hazlehurst, GA

Dick Steinkamp
09-30-2008, 09:13 AM
OCF,
Will this be for a straight (beam) axle like a gasser, or will the Stude A arms, king pins, etc. be retained and only the center bellcrank eliminated?

Like this (the ones with two holes)?...

http://www.zigsstreetrods.com/Graphics/c0706701.jpg

What will it be bolting to?

Will those available on the hot rod aftermarket work?





Dick Steinkamp
Bellingham, WA

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s66/ddstnkmp/Stude-a-mino%20old%20pics/oldpics6asmall.jpg

52-fan
09-30-2008, 11:55 AM
If you're using a beam axle, couldn't you just use Studebaker pickup parts? My brother's Transtar has a GM cross steer box with everything else from the box to the wheel all Studebaker.

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s186/52-fan/StudebakersofArkansas2-1.jpg
1952 Champion Starlight, 1962 Daytona, both w/overdrive.Searcy,Arkansas
"I may be lazy, but I'm not shiftless."

Alan
09-30-2008, 01:00 PM
Calvin is probably looking for a Stude part no. 678668

oldcarfart
09-30-2008, 06:41 PM
bypassing the center bellcrank only.



quote:Originally posted by Dick Steinkamp

OCF,
Will this be for a straight (beam) axle like a gasser, or will the Stude A arms, king pins, etc. be retained and only the center bellcrank eliminated?

Like this (the ones with two holes)?...

http://www.zigsstreetrods.com/Graphics/c0706701.jpg

What will it be bolting to?

Will those available on the hot rod aftermarket work?





Dick Steinkamp
Bellingham, WA

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s66/ddstnkmp/Stude-a-mino%20old%20pics/oldpics6asmall.jpg

oldcarfart
09-30-2008, 06:45 PM
YES! or similar item.






quote:Originally posted by Alan

Calvin is probably looking for a Stude part no. 678668

buddymander
10-01-2008, 10:30 AM
Bypassing the center bellcrank ONLY? Surely you don't intend to run a steering rod from one steering arm over to the other. Or are you going to weld the two hole arm to a pitman arm on a box steering left to right instead of fore and aft? Why not just cut off the bellcrank arms leaving the rear one and hook a rod from the new box to a juncture on the rear bellcrank arm in the location of the inner tie rod ends? Like I did.

oldcarfart
10-01-2008, 12:45 PM
why not? ford and many others did it for years, it's called cross-steering, very popular in street rods and big trucks.
"Like I did", so yours is the only way?



quote:Originally posted by buddymander

Bypassing the center bellcrank ONLY? Surely you don't intend to run a steering rod from one steering arm over to the other. Or are you going to weld the two hole arm to a pitman arm on a box steering left to right instead of fore and aft? Why not just cut off the bellcrank arms leaving the rear one and hook a rod from the new box to a juncture on the rear bellcrank arm in the location of the inner tie rod ends? Like I did.

r1lark
10-01-2008, 02:23 PM
quote:Originally posted by oldcarfart

I am looking at making a cross-steering setup (i.e. 32 Ford w/ vega steering box)for Studebakers to use a modern steering box (manual or power steering)with 99% OEM Studebaker existing parts. It's just an experiment now but may be a low-cost alternative upgrade with all bolt on parts. My budget is limited but mechanical resources and experience are documented.



quote:Originally posted by mbstude

Alright Calvin, I'm curious. You're asking for straight axle parts on a Stude forum... What ya buildin'? [8D]

Matthew Burnette
Hazlehurst, GA



OCF,

Believe I understand what you are thinking about. Mount a cross-steer box, and run a tie rod to a 'two hole' steering arm on the passenger side spindle. The existing two tie rods that run between the steering arms and the bellcrank would remain, right? That would allow you to run just about any cross steer box, power or manual. Slick.....;)

Am I thinkin' right??

Paul
Winston-Salem, NC
Visit The NEW Studebaker Skytop Registry website at: www.studebakerskytop.com

Alan
10-01-2008, 02:27 PM
You are right, but you have to make a bracket that mounts the Vega or 122 under the frame rail and would need a few u-joints and some mods to the steering column including placing a bearing in the column end. Myself if I were going to do cross steer I would use the Flaming River cross steer rack. Speedway has them P/N 910-32245 for $329. or see if you can just buy the rack and make your own brackets but I don't think that would reduce the price that much.

buddymander
10-01-2008, 03:36 PM
My way the only way? Don't get silly on me man. If you don't want help from somebody who already eliminated the drag link and simplified the whole system, that's fine with me.

oldcarfart
10-01-2008, 06:45 PM
BINGO! IF this works it will open up a low cost option for steering box options, I want to make a bracket that will also easily mount.



quote:Originally posted by r1lark


quote:Originally posted by oldcarfart

I am looking at making a cross-steering setup (i.e. 32 Ford w/ vega steering box)for Studebakers to use a modern steering box (manual or power steering)with 99% OEM Studebaker existing parts. It's just an experiment now but may be a low-cost alternative upgrade with all bolt on parts. My budget is limited but mechanical resources and experience are documented.



quote:Originally posted by mbstude

Alright Calvin, I'm curious. You're asking for straight axle parts on a Stude forum... What ya buildin'? [8D]

Matthew Burnette
Hazlehurst, GA



OCF,

Believe I understand what you are thinking about. Mount a cross-steer box, and run a tie rod to a 'two hole' steering arm on the passenger side spindle. The existing two tie rods that run between the steering arms and the bellcrank would remain, right? That would allow you to run just about any cross steer box, power or manual. Slick.....;)

Am I thinkin' right??

Paul
Winston-Salem, NC
Visit The NEW Studebaker Skytop Registry website at: www.studebakerskytop.com

oldcarfart
10-01-2008, 06:47 PM
that's one option among many this would open a window to.



quote:Originally posted by Alan

You are right, but you have to make a bracket that mounts the Vega or 122 under the frame rail and would need a few u-joints and some mods to the steering column including placing a bearing in the column end. Myself if I were going to do cross steer I would use the Flaming River cross steer rack. Speedway has them P/N 910-32245 for $329. or see if you can just buy the rack and make your own brackets but I don't think that would reduce the price that much.