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StudeMichael
09-15-2008, 09:36 PM
I ordered a dash pad for my 1957 Clipper project from Phantom six months ago. I heard nothing so I emailed them three weeks ago. I just heard back tonight (they did apologize for the delay) by email that they are not available. It looks like a simple pad. Any ideas on making one from stock vinyl? If I could find an nos one that would be better I am sure but I am not getting my hopes up.

1957 Packard Clipper
1958 Golden Hawk
1963 Daytona Convertible
1963 R2 Daytona
1963 R2 GT Hawk
1963 R1 Wagonaire
1963 R4 Avanti
1964 Champ
1966 Cruiser

mbstude
09-15-2008, 09:53 PM
Have you tried Just Dashes? Worth checking into..

http://justdashes.com/Index.htm

Matthew Burnette
Hazlehurst, GA

torker
09-15-2008, 10:20 PM
This topic pulled my Chatty Cathy string. "Just Dashes" needs way more for a core than just a rock hard, tattered & wilted piece of vinyl and various chunks of expanding foam to work with, which is the typical condition of a 57L or 58L Packard dash pad, and they will still charge you boo-koo bucks! Yes, I've seen some survivors that were somewhat more intact, but they still sagged and drooped over the gauge cluster and had other defects. Phantom Interiors, with all due respect, told me that what they could do is sew up a seamed vinyl cover for an intact but cracked pad...which will not solve the problem in all too many cases. OTOH, My 69, 70 & 71 Buicks all have original pads, and they are cherry, and back when the yards were full of them, good pads were really EZ to find. They just had a quality grade of plastic used on them, I guess. Packards musta used something brought in from Taiwan. Yuk, yuk. Believe me, I'm working on the issue for My own Pack-O-Baker project, and I will let you know what I figure out. Maybe someone else will arrive at a viable solution before then. Good Luck.

silverhawk
09-15-2008, 10:38 PM
Is it possible to mold a new one out of fiberglass and then recover it?

Dylan

Dwain G.
09-15-2008, 10:59 PM
Even if you found an NOS pad, the problem with those dashes was the foam filling. The dashes started sagging while the cars were still under warranty prompting a service bulletin fix (or two).

http://home.comcast.net/~jdwain/images/63.63.jpg
Dwain G.

58PackardWagon
09-15-2008, 11:30 PM
Just Dashes did two for me. 63 Lark and a 58 Packard. Both went in bent, missing foam and cracked and both came back looking better than brand new. One took about a month and one just a little longer, but I kid you not, their work is concourse perfect !!!!!! With the 63 they even replated all of the chrome for me and had the non chrome parts polished. Each ran about 800.00 Also when they ship it back they have a special box they use and they pack it with a ton of foam and wrap it in foam. Everything was outstanding !!!

58 Packard Wgn (Parade Red)
58 Packard Wgn (Park Green)
58 Packard Sdn (Shadowtone Red)
62 Daytona (White)
63 R2 Lark (Super Red)
57 Packard Wagon parts car
57 Packard sedan parts car
58 Packard 2 dr hdtp parts car

raoul5788
09-16-2008, 08:37 AM
I had Rene make one for me for my '57 Packard wagon when he owned Phantom. Let's say the results were less than spectacular. I found a good local upholstery shop that reworked the shell Rene made and recovered it themselves. It turned out quite good. I tried Just Dashes, they wouldn't even go near it. I will post some pictures later when I get a chance.

Chip
'63 Cruiser daily driver
'57 Packard wagon almost on the road!

StudeMichael
09-16-2008, 01:23 PM
The reason I asked about the do it yourself approach is that it looks to be a very basic pad except around the dash cluster. If you would post some pictures later that would be great Chip. I have nothing at all on the car to work with. The original pad is completely gone.

1957 Packard Clipper
1958 Golden Hawk
1963 Daytona Convertible
1963 R2 Daytona
1963 R2 GT Hawk
1963 R1 Wagonaire
1963 R4 Avanti
1964 Champ
1966 Cruiser

raoul5788
09-16-2008, 02:32 PM
Here is a link to several pictures of the dash. I hope they help!
http://s304.photobucket.com/albums/nn163/raoul5788/

Chip
'63 Cruiser daily driver
'57 Packard wagon almost on the road!

N8N
09-16-2008, 03:43 PM
There's a local guy (to me) that had one of those dashes redone, but I can't remember his name to save my life. Maybe JDP remembers who I'm thinking of.

nate

--
55 Commander Starlight
http://members.cox.net/njnagel

StudeMichael
09-16-2008, 10:46 PM
Thanks Chip. The dash looks very nice!!

1957 Packard Clipper
1958 Golden Hawk
1963 Daytona Convertible
1963 R2 Daytona
1963 R2 GT Hawk
1963 R1 Wagonaire
1963 R4 Avanti
1964 Champ
1966 Cruiser

raoul5788
09-16-2008, 11:33 PM
quote:Originally posted by StudeMichael

Thanks Chip. The dash looks very nice!!

1957 Packard Clipper
1958 Golden Hawk
1963 Daytona Convertible
1963 R2 Daytona
1963 R2 GT Hawk
1963 R1 Wagonaire
1963 R4 Avanti
1964 Champ
1966 Cruiser


I am very happy with the final results. One of these days I will get pictures of the rest of the wagon posted.

Chip
'63 Cruiser daily driver
'57 Packard wagon almost on the road!

StudeMichael
09-19-2008, 10:32 PM
Does anyone have a dash pad for a 57 Clipper in rough shape that I could use for a pattern?

1957 Packard Clipper
1958 Golden Hawk
1963 Daytona Convertible
1963 R2 Daytona
1963 R2 GT Hawk
1963 R1 Wagonaire
1963 R4 Avanti
1964 Champ
1966 Cruiser

bams50
09-20-2008, 06:18 AM
I talked to Nick at Phantom at the Meet, and had a nice chat. I asked him specifically about the Packard dashes. He told me they just finished up the Speedster dashes and have heard about the need for Packard dashes, but haven't tackled it due to the extremely low demand. It might not hurt to see if you could pull together a few Packard owners that need dashes- if a few agreed to take one, they might do it...

In any case, good luck, and let us know what you do!

Robert (Bob) Andrews Owner- Studebakeracres- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131

"Some people live for the rules, I live for exceptions"- 311

"Do they all not, by mere virtue of having survived as relics of a bygone era, amass a level of respect perhaps not accorded to them when they were new?"

raoul5788
09-20-2008, 07:24 AM
After talking to Hal Hermann at the meet, I found out that Just Dashes did his '57 Clipper. It came out REALLY nice! They did it like the originals, not stitched. You should contact them.

Chip
'63 Cruiser daily driver
'57 Packard wagon almost on the road!

58PackardWagon
09-20-2008, 08:22 AM
I have a dash that was pulled out of a 57 Packard sedan. It is black. Please send me an email if interested in buying.

58 Packard Wgn (Parade Red)
58 Packard Wgn (Park Green)
58 Packard Sdn (Shadowtone Red)
62 Daytona (White)
63 R2 Lark (Super Red)
57 Packard Wagon parts car
57 Packard sedan parts car
58 Packard 2 dr hdtp parts car

StudeMichael
09-20-2008, 08:17 PM
Thanks Bams. Phantom listed (still do as far as I know) the Packard dashes as being available on their website for $495.00. I ordered and paid for one six months ago. I knew from reading the posts it takes them a while to get to your order so I waited patiently. The only contact I had concerning my order was a call in the beginning asking me what color I needed. I finally emailed them and was told they are not available. Anyways,,,I emailed 58Packard Wagon to see about buying his. Thank you for your reply! If that does not work out I will try Just Dashes but I think they are the comp[any that makes you pull the whole dash assembly and mail it to them. I am not crazy about that idea.

1957 Packard Clipper
1958 Golden Hawk
1963 Daytona Convertible
1963 R2 Daytona
1963 R2 GT Hawk
1963 R1 Wagonaire
1963 R4 Avanti
1964 Champ
1966 Cruiser