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BobPalma
08-30-2008, 10:17 AM
:) Yesterday (Friday, August 29) I spent with two non-Studebaker enthusiasts in Auburn IN at the annual Kruse Labor Day Collector Car Auction. Quite a few Studebakers on the premises, actually; at least 14-15, I'd say.

Most impressive as to "enthusiastic" pricing was a nice, second-series 1955 Commander 4-door sedan in two-tone green. Not a show car, but an unusually nice car nonetheless, with Automatic Drive. It was parked out For Sale soliciting offers after the auction failed to meet the -hold onto your hat- $13,500 reserve!

Of greater interest was a Champ pickup needing completion, onto which had been placed one of the narrow-box, fiberglass-side Ford Ranger stepside beds used on 1993-2008 Rangers. The width of this bed was perfect for a Champ; 'absolutely could not have been better!

I sighted down both sides of the bed and the alignment with the rear section of the Champ cab looked every bit as if they had been designed for each other. This particular one looked like a work in progress...on which most of the progress was yet to be made, to put it delicately.

Nonetheless, the idea was terrific and I'd commend considering a narrow-box, fiberglass-step-side Ford Ranger bed to anyone wanting to rebuild a short-bed Champ with a more appropriate, better-looking box. (As a bonus; those tailgates don't have FORD embossed on them, so you can put S-T-U-D-E-B-A-K-E-R letters on them!) :DBP

JRoberts
08-30-2008, 10:47 AM
I'd love to see a picture of that truck, or any Champ with a such a bed conversion. It seems to me that there was a Champ, red I believe, at Martinsburg Zone Meet several years ago that had an early Dakota wide bed on it. The owner said it bolted right on. It looked better than the stock bed, which of course was also a Dodge unit.

Joe Roberts
'61 R1 Champ
'65 Cruiser
Editor of "The Down Easterner"
Eastern North Carolina Chapter

bams50
08-30-2008, 11:16 AM
Me too! Don't tell us you didn't have a camera with you?!?[:0]

Robert (Bob) Andrews Owner- Studebakeracres- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131

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Mark57
08-30-2008, 11:53 AM
Bob - Not fair to post this story about such a nice Champ conversion without some photos! :(

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'57 Transtar Deluxe
Vancouver Island

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Dave Bates
08-30-2008, 11:58 AM
Over in Belpre,OH there is a body shop working on a C-cab with the same Ranger bed-looks nice too.If I can figure it out I'll post a picture.

r1lark
08-30-2008, 01:11 PM
quote:Originally posted by JRoberts

I'd love to see a picture of that truck, or any Champ with a such a bed conversion. It seems to me that there was a Champ, red I believe, at Martinsburg Zone Meet several years ago that had an early Dakota wide bed on it. The owner said it bolted right on. It looked better than the stock bed, which of course was also a Dodge unit.

Joe Roberts
'61 R1 Champ
'65 Cruiser
Editor of "The Down Easterner"
Eastern North Carolina Chapter

David Hauser in Lewisville NC is building a Champ with a Ranger bed. I haven't been by lately, but he should be getting close to being done. (He's a LOT quicker than me as far as finishing projects&lt;G&gt;!) One neat thing about David's is that he has eliminated the 'step' just ahead of the rear fender - makes the lines flow much better.

Here are some pics that I have in my file of a another Champ with a Ranger bed:
http://racingstudebakers.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10041/normal__60%20Champ%20with%20Ranger%20pickup%20bed%20pic%201.jpg
http://racingstudebakers.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10041/normal__60%20Champ%20with%20Ranger%20pickup%20bed%20pic%202.jpg
http://racingstudebakers.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10041/normal__60%20Champ%20with%20Ranger%20pickup%20bed%20pic%203.jpg

Paul
Winston-Salem, NC
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BobPalma
08-30-2008, 01:17 PM
:) Many thanks, Paul. That is exactly correct and will answer everyone's questions. It appears the box could be scooted just a tad to the right on the one you've shown us for even better fitment. But isn't the overall effect good?

(And the bronze truck you photographed is far more appealing than the multi-colored project I reviewed yesterday!;)) :DBP

studegary
08-30-2008, 01:49 PM
Maybe it is me, but I think that that Ford bed looks as tacked on as the original Dodge bed. Bob P. is correct. He should have centered the bed to the cab. The Champ that I like the best is a Dodge box with a center section taken out to make the box sides align with the cab.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

SDC member since 1968
Studebaker enthusiast much longer

r1lark
08-30-2008, 01:56 PM
quote:Originally posted by studegary

Maybe it is me, but I think that that Ford bed looks as tacked on as the original Dodge bed. Bob P. is correct. He should have centered the bed to the cab. The Champ that I like the best is a Dodge box with a center section taken out to make the box sides align with the cab.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

SDC member since 1968
Studebaker enthusiast much longer

You mean like this?
http://racingstudebakers.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10041/_64%20Champ%20pickup%20with%20narrowed%20P2%20bed%20pic%202.jpg

Paul
Winston-Salem, NC
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BobPalma
08-30-2008, 02:01 PM
:) No one can argue the appropriateness of the sectioned Dodge bed, for sure....but notice that the flare contour above both front and rear wheels winds up matching a tad better in the Ford version. :DBP

52-fan
08-30-2008, 02:05 PM
I don't see what you are saying about the fit of the box. At those angles I can't tell if it's centered or not.
I have seen pictures of several Studes with that box. My brother and I have discussed measuring one up to use.

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studegary
08-30-2008, 02:29 PM
quote:Originally posted by 52-fan

I don't see what you are saying about the fit of the box. At those angles I can't tell if it's centered or not.
I have seen pictures of several Studes with that box. My brother and I have discussed measuring one up to use.



Look at the left bed step. It is out from the cab. Look at the right bed step. It is in from the cab.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

SDC member since 1968
Studebaker enthusiast much longer

bob40
08-30-2008, 02:54 PM
One of the emblems is probably off half a centimeter too....lol

mjeansonne
08-30-2008, 04:32 PM
I like the looks of the Ranger Box more than the sectioned Dodge Box. Anyone seen (or used) a box other than the long version Dodge Box. Mine is pretty rusted. In fact, the last time I repainted the truck, I repaired the the box the best I could then applied enough bondo to covering the repairs. A friend of mine who was helping as is a body man, named the truck "Bondo Bucket"! How embarrassing. I don't have tailgate for it either. It was too rusted deteriorated to be put back on the truck!

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N8N
08-30-2008, 04:35 PM
I like it, but I'd be tempted to remove the stock taillights and fill the holes, then add something more appropriate to a Studebaker (simple round truck trailer lights maybe?) Amber turn signals, while undoubtedly a safety feature, just don't look right on a vintage vehicle.

nate

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55 Commander Starlight
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BobGlasscock
08-30-2008, 04:46 PM
Ok, I can't take it anymore. I've returned to this thread a number of times to read new posts, and everytime I get here it bugs me more and more how much that truck that r1lark posted a pic of looks like arkiejazz's truck, just with a different grill. Even the driveway, grass, sidewalk, and neighborhood look like Arkiejazz's. weird.......

'50 Champion, 1 family owner
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Anne F. Goodman
08-30-2008, 04:54 PM
well I think that that picture is Arkiejazz's Truck in his driveway.

Mabel 1949 Champion
1957 Silverhawk
1955 Champion 4Dr.Regal
Gus 1958 Transtar
1955 President State
Fresno,Ca
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r1lark
08-30-2008, 05:00 PM
quote:Originally posted by BobGlasscock

Ok, I can't take it anymore. I've returned to this thread a number of times to read new posts, and everytime I get here it bugs me more and more how much that truck that r1lark posted a pic of looks like arkiejazz's truck, just with a different grill. Even the driveway, grass, sidewalk, and neighborhood look like Arkiejazz's. weird.......

'50 Champion, 1 family owner
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg316/studebakerbob/SDC%20avatar/Studebakerstuff019.jpghttp://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg316/studebakerbob/SDC%20avatar/Studebakerstuff018.jpg


Bob, that's because it [u]is</u> Arkie's truck........:)

I have a number of pics of that truck on my hard drive, since I am considering doing the same thing for my 7E truck (if I don't use the P1 narrow bed).

Paul
Winston-Salem, NC
Visit The NEW Studebaker Skytop Registry website at: www.studebakerskytop.com

BobGlasscock
08-30-2008, 05:12 PM
WEll, that's a load off my mind. I drive by there often enough it would have made me crazy to think there was another block just like his somewhere else.

'50 Champion, 1 family owner
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