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showbizkid
08-19-2008, 06:15 PM
I ordered a fuel pipe from SASCO, #1551334 for '61-'62 V8 with WCFB. What came was this part, which has a tag on it that says 1551334, but most certainly does not fit,nor does it look like the pipe in the pristine 1962 engine compartment that Dick Steinkamp posted a while back.

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q26/clarknovak/DSCN1366.jpg

Does anyone recognize this pipe? Can you tell me what it fits? It looks more like it should fit a 6, to my untrained eye.

Here is the pic Dick shared, for reference:

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q26/clarknovak/factory-fresh62LarkV8enginecompartm.jpg


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StudeRich
08-19-2008, 06:29 PM
The part from the fuel pump, with the slight angle looks close, if it is not a 6, I wonder if it could be a mis-tagged R1/R2 to the fuel filter!![:0][:0][?] It would never reach the Carb. :(

StudeRich
Studebakers Northwest
Ferndale, WA

showbizkid
08-19-2008, 06:55 PM
quote:Originally posted by StudeRich

The part from the fuel pump, with the slight angle looks close, if it is not a 6, I wonder if it could be a mis-tagged R1/R2 to the fuel filter!![:0][:0][?] It would never reach the Carb. :(

Exactly - close, but no cigar. The inlet to the carb should bend back, toward the firewall - the pipe I have bends UP.


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Dick Steinkamp
08-19-2008, 07:39 PM
My '62 was a 259 2 barrel if that makes any difference.

Here's my '63 Hawk...also a 2 barrel...

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s66/ddstnkmp/Hawk%20Finished/IMG_2363.jpg



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Bellingham, WA

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showbizkid
08-19-2008, 10:12 PM
The inlet for the WCFB is in the front of the engine rather than the passenger's side; otherwise the pipe should look a lot the same. Still, I'd like to know what the "mystery pipe" fits, so I could get it to someone who can use it...


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StudeRich
08-20-2008, 02:19 AM
I could see that working, if you put the almost straight end, not the curved one (that's the one I said goes to the pump) down to the pump and slide a rubber fuel hose on it with an in-line SP filter, then a short hose to another line you make to the carb. Only prob. with that theory is you have to cut the nut off, unless you leave it rattling around down at the pump (crude:().

That is why I think the curved end screws into the casting of the filter/tank return unit on a JT or JTS Lark, Hawk or R1/R2 Avanti. If so, you got the main part of a $125.00 kit Jon Meyer makes and sells!
Bonus!! [:p][:0]

StudeRich -Studebakers Northwest Ferndale, WA

showbizkid
08-26-2008, 03:49 PM
Based on Rich's thought, I emailed the pic of my pipe to Jon Myer. He wrote me back today to tell me that this is the correct pipe for the WCFB application - the reason the carb end doesn't turn laterally and enter the inlet is because it wants a 90-degree fitting to get there! This isn't called out in the books - guess they just figured we would know. And, I assume, I'll need a 90 on the fuel pump end as well. Case closed! :D

I guess this means I'll have to relocate the fuel filter between the tank line and the fuel pump.


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StudeRich
08-26-2008, 06:31 PM
I still don't get it! It looks like it needs to have THREE segments (directions) and it only has two! Verticle with that little slight angle coming up, then bend to rear, then bend to right of engine to get to Carb. and it also looks a bit short, which is why I thought it goes only to the filter, not the Carb.!! [:0]

Maybe you have a GM or Chrysler WCFB, with the inlet on the drivers' side? [?]

If you put a filter before the fuel pump, it protects it also and is not as likely to leak because it is suction, not pressure! Trucks Hawks and maybe some Larks can fit where you can see it, in the fuel pump to tank flex hose. [^]


quote:Originally posted by showbizkid

Based on Rich's thought, I emailed the pic of my pipe to Jon Myer. He wrote me back today to tell me that this is the correct pipe for the WCFB application - the reason the carb end doesn't turn laterally and enter the inlet is because it wants a 90-degree fitting to get there! This isn't called out in the books - guess they just figured we would know. And, I assume, I'll need a 90 on the fuel pump end as well. Case closed! :D
I guess this means I'll have to relocate the fuel filter between the tank line and the fuel pump.

StudeRich -Studebakers Northwest Ferndale, WA

showbizkid
08-26-2008, 07:41 PM
quote:Originally posted by StudeRich

I still don't get it! It looks like it needs to have THREE segments (directions) and it only has two! Verticle with that little slight angle coming up, then bend to rear, then bend to right of engine to get to Carb.

The picture may not show the bends because of the angle, but they're there just as you say.


quote:Maybe you have a GM or Chrysler WCFB, with the inlet on the drivers' side? [?]

Nope! Genuine Stude-spec (for a '57-'58 President, no less) :D


quote:If you put a filter before the fuel pump, it protects it also and is not as likely to leak because it is suction, not pressure! Trucks Hawks and maybe some Larks can fit where you can see it, in the fuel pump to tank flex hose.

That makes sense. When I got the car, there was no hard line from the pump to carb - just rubber hose with filter laying on top of the intake. One of many things I've had to figure out how to remedy ;)


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showbizkid
09-03-2008, 09:44 PM
For the benefit of any other Studie Noobies :), I got the proper fuel line fittings today from NAPA and test-fit the fuel pipe. As you can see, it fits like a glove.

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q26/clarknovak/Engine%20Install/DSCN1405.jpg

Considering how it was hooked up when I got it, I would never have figured this was the way the fuel line should look!

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q26/clarknovak/From%20the%20start/DSCN0423.jpg

And yes, that's a heater bypass - one more thing I'll get to later [xx(]


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Guido
09-03-2008, 09:53 PM
I trust you will take care of that alternator belt before you try to start the car.

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showbizkid
09-03-2008, 11:15 PM
Yeah. Fan's not on yet, so can't tighten the belt :)


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StudeDave57
09-03-2008, 11:34 PM
quote:Originally posted by Guido

I trust you will take care of that alternator belt before you try to start the car.
Don't worry at all about the missing radiator hose-
But be sure that fan belt is tight... [:0] ;) [B)] :D

I didn't do all that work for nuthin' dude!!! [:o)]

StudeDave '57 [8D]

52-fan
09-04-2008, 07:22 AM
Good shot of the throttle return springs for the person who was asking in another post.

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