30's headlights?

[ric1001]

I have a pair of headlights with fender mounts that have the part numbers on the underside of the bases, 500181 LH and 500180 RH with AC above each number. When I bought these about 25 years ago there was a yellowed tag on a string with each light that read "38 Stude".
They don't quite look the same as 38 Stude lights I see in photos though. Does anyone have access to a parts book this old to see if these are even Stude part numbers? I can email pics if you want. Thanks, Ric

[Studebaker Wheel]

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee285/studeq/IMG_1132-1.jpg

The number you provide is not a Studebaker part number but a casting number. Above are the two types of headlights used on the 1938 Studebakers. The standard round lights were used on the regular Commander and the cathedral type on the State Commander and President. The yellow vehicle in the back is a '38 Coupe Express. Though most of the Coupe Expresses were equipped with the round lights I opted for the fancy catherdal lights. If you can provide a photo of the lights you have I can probably identify them.

Richard Quinn
editor: Antique Studebaker Review

[mbstude]

Here's the pics. Anyone know what they fit? Mr. Quinn?

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk179/1959S2D/headlight.jpg

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk179/1959S2D/headlight2.jpg

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk179/1959S2D/38.jpg



"Hi Matthew, here are some photos. Shown in the two photos on the left are the LH ones, driver's side. At first I thought they were hood side mounted with the turn signal light on top but that didn't jibe with the LH and RH on the underside of the mounts and places the sealed beam lettering sideways so they must be fender mounts. I believe someone added the turn signal lights to them which end up on the outside of the light if mounted on the fender. The stainless trim strip looks to be original however and ends up on top of the light when fender mounted. The steel body of the light is 13" long not including the steel retaining ring. The maximum diameter of the body is about 8 1/2" at the retaining ring. Thanks for any help. Ric"



Matthew Burnette
Hazlehurst, GA
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk179/1959S2D/trucks_SNM3.jpg

[ric1001]

Hi again, seeing a 37 Stude on Ebay with hood mounted lights and turn signals underneath made me think that maybe they are hood mounted with the turn signal light underneath the headlight and the stainless strip to the outside. Any more guesses?

[Starlite51]

looks like a 37-38 Pontiac with a sealed beam kit added

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee209/Cruzerdog/DSCN5379.jpg


note the chrome pieces under the light hides the mounting nuts


John

[ric1001]

Hi, pretty close but the base shape is different. I had a 38 Pontiac P6 4 door some years ago, nice to see a pic of one again.