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rockne10
10-17-2006, 09:37 PM
For several years I've visited Mount Pleasant Mills Salvage, a one hour drive from my place. They started accumulating in the twenties and never got rid of anything. This was the sort of place you could wander for a week and still find surprises at every turn; Nashes, Eucs, Divcos and Vauxhalls, you name it.

Among the tens of thousands of cars and trucks there must have been untold numbers of Studebakers. They were all junk with no usable sheetmetal but a vast supply of mechanicals, dashes and stainless trim.

Someone gave me a power steering box, pump and column from a 54 sedan that I planned to put in to a 53 Coupe, but I need a frame mounting bracket, shift linkages and whatever else would be unique to the longer wheelbase Coupe. I thought, no problem, I'll just go down there and get what I need.

Well, the great stash is gone!:(

Apparently, the owner recently died and, in order to pay estate taxes, the family sold everything that wasn't late model to someone who came in a crushed it all.[V] Literally thousands, "Oh, the humanity" I lament.

Tens of thousands of late models now reside in neat rows.

I will, no doubt, eventually find what I need to install the steering
in my Coupe but, for the time being, I mourn the loss of them all.


Brad Johnson
Pine Grove Mills, Pa.
33 Rockne 10
51 Commander Starlight
53 Commander Starlight
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g233/rockne10/51x2.jpg
previously: 63 Cruiser, 62 Regal VI, 60 VI convertible, 50 LandCruiser

Roscomacaw
10-17-2006, 09:50 PM
Capitol D A M N - exclamation point. :(

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle!!

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

Roscomacaw
10-17-2006, 09:50 PM
Capitol D A M N - exclamation point. :(

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle!!

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

arkiejazz
10-18-2006, 12:57 AM
Such a pity. I used to lament the fact the the Late Lady Bird Johnson spearheaded the edict to put up vision blocking fences around all the salvage yards. I have always viewed these yards as things of beauty rather than eyesores.
Years ago, when I was still in Arkansas, there was an OLD time salvage yard at Rogers, Arkansas called Creech's Salvage. There were literally thousands of OLD OLD OLD cars and trucks in there. Some were possibly restorable, but all very valuable to the restorer. Old Creech would sell parts, pick-a-part style, or he'd sell you an entire car for $25 bucks....and you could move it, or leave it there and part it out on weekends. Needless to say, when Creech died, the heirs wanted to sell the land, so.....in came the damnable crusher...No more Creech's..........such a pity

steve blake
http://tinyurl.com/kr3gt
http://tinyurl.com/l7oqh

arkiejazz
10-18-2006, 12:57 AM
Such a pity. I used to lament the fact the the Late Lady Bird Johnson spearheaded the edict to put up vision blocking fences around all the salvage yards. I have always viewed these yards as things of beauty rather than eyesores.
Years ago, when I was still in Arkansas, there was an OLD time salvage yard at Rogers, Arkansas called Creech's Salvage. There were literally thousands of OLD OLD OLD cars and trucks in there. Some were possibly restorable, but all very valuable to the restorer. Old Creech would sell parts, pick-a-part style, or he'd sell you an entire car for $25 bucks....and you could move it, or leave it there and part it out on weekends. Needless to say, when Creech died, the heirs wanted to sell the land, so.....in came the damnable crusher...No more Creech's..........such a pity

steve blake
http://tinyurl.com/kr3gt
http://tinyurl.com/l7oqh

Transtar56
10-18-2006, 03:41 AM
Its happened around here to the point there are virtually no "old car" boneyards left.

Transtar56
10-18-2006, 03:41 AM
Its happened around here to the point there are virtually no "old car" boneyards left.

N8N
10-18-2006, 05:29 AM
There's still places that have junkyards with old cars in them? Geez, land values around here are so high we don't hardly have any junkyards at all!

nate

--
55 Commander Starlight
http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel

N8N
10-18-2006, 05:29 AM
There's still places that have junkyards with old cars in them? Geez, land values around here are so high we don't hardly have any junkyards at all!

nate

--
55 Commander Starlight
http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel

kmul221
10-18-2006, 08:32 AM
In Southern Ontario,there were 4 such "Parts Depositories" that have vanished in recent years.All have been in business for at least 50 years & never visited by THE CRUSHER. 99% of the cars were beyond restoration but a great source of stainless,mechanical & knick-knacks.
Our beloved government decided they were a eyesore,even though most were in obscure locations & were polluting the earth as most of them were returning to it to the point all that was left was the roof.A real shame to see them go but nothing lasts forever!

kmul221
10-18-2006, 08:32 AM
In Southern Ontario,there were 4 such "Parts Depositories" that have vanished in recent years.All have been in business for at least 50 years & never visited by THE CRUSHER. 99% of the cars were beyond restoration but a great source of stainless,mechanical & knick-knacks.
Our beloved government decided they were a eyesore,even though most were in obscure locations & were polluting the earth as most of them were returning to it to the point all that was left was the roof.A real shame to see them go but nothing lasts forever!

Scott
10-18-2006, 09:07 AM
Half seriously, what you need to do when you find a place that has such old cars and has been in business for ages is to try and get the site listed on the National Register of Historic Places. If successful, that would put a stop to any thoughts of crushing anything! On the other hand, it would probably also mean that the cars would become unavailable as sources or parts, because they would constitute an asset of the entire site.

Scott
10-18-2006, 09:07 AM
Half seriously, what you need to do when you find a place that has such old cars and has been in business for ages is to try and get the site listed on the National Register of Historic Places. If successful, that would put a stop to any thoughts of crushing anything! On the other hand, it would probably also mean that the cars would become unavailable as sources or parts, because they would constitute an asset of the entire site.

studeclunker
10-18-2006, 02:41 PM
Some states, I understand Oregon is one of them, have a time limit that a car can reside in a junkyard. After that limit, the car has to be moved or crushed.[B)][:0] Most are crushed.[V]

You know, most of this in California is spearheaded by the Eco-nazis. They don't call our cars 'classics' they call them gross polluters. There have been several bills attempted in the state senate to require surrender of these cars or to force them to meet state pollution standards.:(

One thing that the safety czars in Sacramento were complaining about a few years ago; It seems that classic cars stand a better chance of surviving in an accident. It seems that the current plastic transportation pods self-destruct when they come into contact with a classic of any description. It was the conclusion of our wiser leaders that the 'classic' cars were a danger to the other cars on the road. Of course they would never admit the flimsy construction and cheap materials of modern cars. No, it's those nasty old collector's cars!;)

Lotsa Larks!
K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
Ron Smith

studeclunker
10-18-2006, 02:41 PM
Some states, I understand Oregon is one of them, have a time limit that a car can reside in a junkyard. After that limit, the car has to be moved or crushed.[B)][:0] Most are crushed.[V]

You know, most of this in California is spearheaded by the Eco-nazis. They don't call our cars 'classics' they call them gross polluters. There have been several bills attempted in the state senate to require surrender of these cars or to force them to meet state pollution standards.:(

One thing that the safety czars in Sacramento were complaining about a few years ago; It seems that classic cars stand a better chance of surviving in an accident. It seems that the current plastic transportation pods self-destruct when they come into contact with a classic of any description. It was the conclusion of our wiser leaders that the 'classic' cars were a danger to the other cars on the road. Of course they would never admit the flimsy construction and cheap materials of modern cars. No, it's those nasty old collector's cars!;)

Lotsa Larks!
K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
Ron Smith

Scott
10-18-2006, 02:53 PM
Yes, it was things like that that made me leave California for good.

Scott
10-18-2006, 02:53 PM
Yes, it was things like that that made me leave California for good.

redvoyager
10-18-2006, 08:16 PM
Well, I may have the bracket needed for the steering, I probably won't use it. Contact me off forum.

As to the surviveablity of the old cars I was told the new cars are designed to fail so the occupants don't take the force of the crash. I figure my body will heal faster than the car....

Norm
58 Transtar 1 ton dually PU
58 2 door wagon
Davenport, Fl

redvoyager
10-18-2006, 08:16 PM
Well, I may have the bracket needed for the steering, I probably won't use it. Contact me off forum.

As to the surviveablity of the old cars I was told the new cars are designed to fail so the occupants don't take the force of the crash. I figure my body will heal faster than the car....

Norm
58 Transtar 1 ton dually PU
58 2 door wagon
Davenport, Fl

sbca96
10-19-2006, 12:03 AM
There was a HUGE salvage yard years ago down near Fillmore just past
Ventura. They had a 55 Speedster there. Thats where I got a totally
rusted stuck 289 Stude engine, that we salvaged for a rebuild. In the
yard there was a 1969 Coronet Super Bee that had landed on its roof.
Quite a few Edsels. A buddy of mine filmed the yard, each row, but I
doubt he still has the tape. It was closed about 15 years ago now. I
believe there is a factory of some sort there now. Progress. They
had rented a couple car crushers to clear out the yard.[V]

Tom

'63 Avanti, zinc plated drilled & slotted 03 Mustang Cobra 13" front disc/98 GT rear brakes, 03 Cobra 17" wheels, GM alt, 97 Z28 leather seats, soon: 97 Z28 T-56 6-spd, Ported heads w/SST full flow valves, 'R3' 276 cam, Edelbrock AFB Carb, GM HEI distributor, 8.8mm plug wires

sbca96
10-19-2006, 12:03 AM
There was a HUGE salvage yard years ago down near Fillmore just past
Ventura. They had a 55 Speedster there. Thats where I got a totally
rusted stuck 289 Stude engine, that we salvaged for a rebuild. In the
yard there was a 1969 Coronet Super Bee that had landed on its roof.
Quite a few Edsels. A buddy of mine filmed the yard, each row, but I
doubt he still has the tape. It was closed about 15 years ago now. I
believe there is a factory of some sort there now. Progress. They
had rented a couple car crushers to clear out the yard.[V]

Tom

'63 Avanti, zinc plated drilled & slotted 03 Mustang Cobra 13" front disc/98 GT rear brakes, 03 Cobra 17" wheels, GM alt, 97 Z28 leather seats, soon: 97 Z28 T-56 6-spd, Ported heads w/SST full flow valves, 'R3' 276 cam, Edelbrock AFB Carb, GM HEI distributor, 8.8mm plug wires

avantilover
10-19-2006, 02:42 AM
Perhaps it's time for some of you to purchase these old cars - save what is usable then scrap the rest[?][?][?]

It's just such a frequent topic - there will soon be no cars left if all the SDC members do is relay bad news, time to get pro-active perhaps?



John Clements
Avantilover, your South Australian Studebaker lover!!!
Lockleys South Australia

avantilover
10-19-2006, 02:42 AM
Perhaps it's time for some of you to purchase these old cars - save what is usable then scrap the rest[?][?][?]

It's just such a frequent topic - there will soon be no cars left if all the SDC members do is relay bad news, time to get pro-active perhaps?



John Clements
Avantilover, your South Australian Studebaker lover!!!
Lockleys South Australia

bams50
10-19-2006, 05:12 AM
quote:Originally posted by avantilover

Perhaps it's time for some of you to purchase these old cars - save what is usable then scrap the rest[?][?][?]

It's just such a frequent topic - there will soon be no cars left if all the SDC members do is relay bad news, time to get pro-active perhaps?


Right on, John- I agree wholeheartedly! I have a place to keep complete cars; so as mentioned in previous threads, I stand ready to rescue and preserve any usable Stude and save the parts cars from the crusher permanently!! [^] So, anyone within a few hundred miles of central NY- before you crush it, call me first!!! Have tow dolly, will travel [^]

Robert K. Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2358680/1

bams50
10-19-2006, 05:12 AM
quote:Originally posted by avantilover

Perhaps it's time for some of you to purchase these old cars - save what is usable then scrap the rest[?][?][?]

It's just such a frequent topic - there will soon be no cars left if all the SDC members do is relay bad news, time to get pro-active perhaps?


Right on, John- I agree wholeheartedly! I have a place to keep complete cars; so as mentioned in previous threads, I stand ready to rescue and preserve any usable Stude and save the parts cars from the crusher permanently!! [^] So, anyone within a few hundred miles of central NY- before you crush it, call me first!!! Have tow dolly, will travel [^]

Robert K. Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2358680/1

studehunter
10-19-2006, 07:14 AM
Brad, try calling James at 803-684-0000 I am sure he has what you need. If he is not there leave him a message and he will return your call. Good Luck

studehunter
10-19-2006, 07:14 AM
Brad, try calling James at 803-684-0000 I am sure he has what you need. If he is not there leave him a message and he will return your call. Good Luck

Guido
10-19-2006, 11:50 AM
Some of you may have seen the thread that JDP posted a couple of weeks ago regarding the Zip Van in Floyd, VA for $400. I talked to the owner of the yard and he was bringing in a crusher to take care of everything, by his own estimation around 800 vehicles. He owned a towing company and I guess just dumped them there. A bit far for me to go to look, but he was selling anything in the yard for $400.

http://thumb14.webshots.net/t/53/453/1/21/36/2964121360097493054pVJTFL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/57/757/2/88/4/2023288040097493054SEKowB_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/18/19/8/37/21/2050837210097493054IYBJJL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/559/1/43/57/2876143570097493054jKVhDw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/22/22/0/2/68/2589002680097493054ftBuBw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/8/30/30/2075830300097493054aSSlFv_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/459/2/23/86/2067223860097493054YoeGMx_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/5/18/33/2537518330097493054OgEKcN_th.jpg
Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R16A grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures".

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

Guido
10-19-2006, 11:50 AM
Some of you may have seen the thread that JDP posted a couple of weeks ago regarding the Zip Van in Floyd, VA for $400. I talked to the owner of the yard and he was bringing in a crusher to take care of everything, by his own estimation around 800 vehicles. He owned a towing company and I guess just dumped them there. A bit far for me to go to look, but he was selling anything in the yard for $400.

http://thumb14.webshots.net/t/53/453/1/21/36/2964121360097493054pVJTFL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/57/757/2/88/4/2023288040097493054SEKowB_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/18/19/8/37/21/2050837210097493054IYBJJL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/559/1/43/57/2876143570097493054jKVhDw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/22/22/0/2/68/2589002680097493054ftBuBw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/8/30/30/2075830300097493054aSSlFv_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/459/2/23/86/2067223860097493054YoeGMx_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/5/18/33/2537518330097493054OgEKcN_th.jpg
Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R16A grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures".

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

Studedude1961
10-19-2006, 12:10 PM
You know, most of this in California is spearheaded by the Eco-nazis. They don't call our cars 'classics' they call them gross polluters. There have been several bills attempted in the state senate to require surrender of these cars or to force them to meet state pollution standards. -- Studeclunker

I worked with many of these "Eco-Nazis" for years when I lived in California and believe me you hit the nail right on the head. I left California in 1994 and have never looked back.

Nebraska had its fair share of junkyards. My favorite was "Poor Dick's" run by Dick Nerud in Minatare, Nebraska. He had a huge ladder with a Model A on top as a beacon for customers. It's gone now, but one of the reasons growing up in Western Nebraska in the 1960s was great was because old Poor Dick used shells of cars as billboards across the entire Nebraska Panhandle emploring passing motorists to "Support the Poor...Buy and Sell With Poor Dick." Those "billboards" are gone too but the memories remain. Western Nebraska was a great place for non-rusty vintage tin and I can remember many large salvage yards that have gone to the great heap in the sky. Most were zoned out, or ran out, by zealots who thought the scrap yards were ugly.

Studedude1961
--1963 Cruiser

Studedude1961
10-19-2006, 12:10 PM
You know, most of this in California is spearheaded by the Eco-nazis. They don't call our cars 'classics' they call them gross polluters. There have been several bills attempted in the state senate to require surrender of these cars or to force them to meet state pollution standards. -- Studeclunker

I worked with many of these "Eco-Nazis" for years when I lived in California and believe me you hit the nail right on the head. I left California in 1994 and have never looked back.

Nebraska had its fair share of junkyards. My favorite was "Poor Dick's" run by Dick Nerud in Minatare, Nebraska. He had a huge ladder with a Model A on top as a beacon for customers. It's gone now, but one of the reasons growing up in Western Nebraska in the 1960s was great was because old Poor Dick used shells of cars as billboards across the entire Nebraska Panhandle emploring passing motorists to "Support the Poor...Buy and Sell With Poor Dick." Those "billboards" are gone too but the memories remain. Western Nebraska was a great place for non-rusty vintage tin and I can remember many large salvage yards that have gone to the great heap in the sky. Most were zoned out, or ran out, by zealots who thought the scrap yards were ugly.

Studedude1961
--1963 Cruiser

bams50
10-19-2006, 12:58 PM
Don't know why it is, but I've ALWAYS loved junkyards...

Perception is a funny thing- most people I know hate 'em and think they're awful; yet I love 'em, to the extent that even the bigger local yards allow me into their yards to look for things, where most are told their "insurance won't allow" non-employees in the yard...

Robert K. Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2358680/1

bams50
10-19-2006, 12:58 PM
Don't know why it is, but I've ALWAYS loved junkyards...

Perception is a funny thing- most people I know hate 'em and think they're awful; yet I love 'em, to the extent that even the bigger local yards allow me into their yards to look for things, where most are told their "insurance won't allow" non-employees in the yard...

Robert K. Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2358680/1

rockne10
10-19-2006, 08:15 PM
As kids in the Fifties, we would scramble through these old yards, climb on old steam rollers and let our imaginations run wild. We had the unbridled freedom to sustain a little injury and learn a few good lessons, maybe a trip to the ER for a few stitches. The life of reality. Then some people started getting sued.

Now, everywhere you turn, there are barriers and safety pads and disclaimers and zoning regulations.

Perhaps our children are safer now but I often get the impression there are a lot of younger people who seem to be less observant, less curious, less self reliant...or, maybe I'm just observing the people my boss hires for me to supervise.:D

Studehunter and Redvoyager, Thanks. I'm going to check the parts catalog to determine exactly what I have and exactly what I need.
We're doing the Keystone Region Fall Tour to Johnstown and the Flight 93 Memorial this weekend. I'll be in touch soon.

Brad Johnson
Pine Grove Mills, Pa.
33 Rockne 10
51 Commander Starlight
53 Commander Starlight
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g233/rockne10/51x2.jpg
previously: 63 Cruiser, 62 Regal VI, 60 VI convertible, 50 LandCruiser

rockne10
10-19-2006, 08:15 PM
As kids in the Fifties, we would scramble through these old yards, climb on old steam rollers and let our imaginations run wild. We had the unbridled freedom to sustain a little injury and learn a few good lessons, maybe a trip to the ER for a few stitches. The life of reality. Then some people started getting sued.

Now, everywhere you turn, there are barriers and safety pads and disclaimers and zoning regulations.

Perhaps our children are safer now but I often get the impression there are a lot of younger people who seem to be less observant, less curious, less self reliant...or, maybe I'm just observing the people my boss hires for me to supervise.:D

Studehunter and Redvoyager, Thanks. I'm going to check the parts catalog to determine exactly what I have and exactly what I need.
We're doing the Keystone Region Fall Tour to Johnstown and the Flight 93 Memorial this weekend. I'll be in touch soon.

Brad Johnson
Pine Grove Mills, Pa.
33 Rockne 10
51 Commander Starlight
53 Commander Starlight
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g233/rockne10/51x2.jpg
previously: 63 Cruiser, 62 Regal VI, 60 VI convertible, 50 LandCruiser