2R-Series - Windlace Photos Help

[packard352]

I could use a bit of help... I'm about to start putting a brand new interior (Ernie Loga) into my 1953 truck and I'm looking for photos of the windlace that's fitted to the 2R-Series. Ideally, I think I'd find it helpful to interior photos (if anyone has them) to help me see / understand how it is tacked into the truck... very different from my 56 Golden Hawk! Any pics and help greatly appreciated, thanks

[Jerry Forrester]

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I gotta get me a laptop. This old CRT is getting too heavy for this 76 year old to pick up and hold it side ways to view the pix.
Can't someone do something about the pix posting wrong?

[52-fan]

You mean like this?

[packard352]

Know what you mean...

The pic on my computer was in the portrait position, yet when it loaded on to the forum, it was landscape.

I spent 5 minutes looking for a tool so I could rotate the picture left or right, which I couldn’t locate and I wasn’t going to waste time on something I couldn’t see I was able to fix.

So my apologies...but not a lot I could do about the photo loading

[StudeRich]

Back to the "Windlace".
On my Transtar "C" Cab I believe the Original "Windlace" was actually non-existent.

There was a 1/4" Vinyl "Hem" on the edge of Cardboard around the Door and that's IT!
The Fiber strip around the Door, is used to fasten the Cardboard Headliner pieces to the Roof.

This is a very original 1962 Model, so maybe somewhere between 1949 and 1964 that was changed?
Either that, or we are now improving on the Original Design by adding it?

[Jerry Forrester]

Know what you mean...

The pic on my computer was in the portrait position, yet when it loaded on to the forum, it was landscape.

I spent 5 minutes looking for a tool so I could rotate the picture left or right, which I couldn’t locate and I wasn’t going to waste time on something I couldn’t see I was able to fix.

So my apologies...but not a lot I could do about the photo loading

No problem Richard. That was just my lame attempt at humor. A lot of us have the problem with pictures loading sideways.

[StudeRich]

Funny how the Sideways Pics NEVER happen to those who use a "REAL" PC Computer!

[52-fan]

My pickup came to me with windlace, but it does not look right. I was thinking of removing it, but would it look unfinished?
BTW I always download my pictures to my computer, make the adjustments, and then post them. I have only had a picture rotate one time and I never did find out why. I finally deleted that post and did it over and everything was fine.

[Skip Lackie]

I am not gonna assert that all C-cabs came with windlace, but all I've seen have had it -- or its remains. I now own a 3R6 and a 4E40 and both had/have it. Trucks that were stored indoors are much more likely to have any windlace remaining. I have several complete pieces of the OEM windlace from several 3Rs, and N&A/SI used to sell a very close facsimile of it, black in color. Normally we could rely on the parts book to settle such debates, but Studebaker didn't include a lot of soft interior parts in its parts books. Instead, they put them in a separate upholstery parts book that apparently was not distributed widely. N&A used to have a copy, and I assume SI has it now.

[showbizkid]

Can't someone do something about the pix posting wrong?

The pic on my computer was in the portrait position, yet when it loaded on to the forum, it was landscape.

Off topic, but... this is not a Forum issue. It is a photograph issue.

Smartphone cameras embed a tag into the file that notes the orientation of the device when the photo was taken, so that it always displays correctly on the device on which it was taken. When the photo is uploaded directly to a website or even to your computer, the orientation tag is ignored.

The solution if you are using a smartphone camera is to first save your photo to your computer, then use the built-in image tools (for Windows, Paint or Image Preview) to rotate the pic to the proper orientation and save it before uploading.

[jclary]

I am not gonna assert that all C-cabs came with windlace, but all I've seen have had it -- or its remains. I now own a 3R6 and a 4E40 and both had/have it. Trucks that were stored indoors are much more likely to have any windlace remaining. I have several complete pieces of the OEM windlace from several 3Rs, and N&A/SI used to sell a very close facsimile of it, black in color. Normally we could rely on the parts book to settle such debates, but Studebaker didn't include a lot of soft interior parts in its parts books. Instead, they put them in a separate upholstery parts book that apparently was not distributed widely. N&A used to have a copy, and I assume SI has it now.

GEE! Skip, I was waiting for your to post in this thread before commenting. 'Cause I thought you would probably give the definitive answer. For some reason (certainly not definitive from me), I have always thought windlace for C cabs stopped with the E-series 1955 and newer? Again, I don't recall the source of that "thought," but when I purchased my truck (1955) in 1975, it was still sporting its original spare tire, soft top Willard battery, and single factory tail light. The original cardboard headliner was gone, but no sign it had ever had windlace. I replaced the headliner but never even considered windlace. My best attempt to confirm this was to resort to unwrapping the framed two sided large 1955 showroom brochure for trucks. It shows a couple of interior pictures but nothing detailed enough to reveal if there is windlace.

So...for someone to give us a possible credible resolution????...where are you Richard Quinn?

[Skip Lackie]

Sorry I failed you John. A clue might exist, if the tack strip is still there: look for many small holes, especially around the top corners. The aluminum trim strips and the cardboard headliner/interior pieces were attached with sheet metal screws, which make noticeably larger holes in the tack strip. Number 3 carpet tacks make tiny holes.

[packard352]

I've just posted in the 'wants' ad section on the forum....

I'm needing the following items:

Interior
Interior aluminium fixing strip above the passenger and driver's door (see photo for reference)
Interior rear view mirror and bracket (my truck is split screen)

In case anyone is able to help.

Thanks,
Richard

[Skip Lackie]

Richard: since your truck is a 2R, you also need the straight pieces of aluminum trim that run down the windlace at the front edge of the door openings. I might have a spare set of trim strips, but won't be able to look for them until later this week. Here are a pair of the curved pieces (not mine). If I have them, I'll let you have them for less than that.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1949-1953-Studebaker-Truck-Headliner-Trim/302798596130?hash=item468033e822:g:hBgAAOSw3jtbQkzD

BTW, the truck mirror and arm are the same as the early 50s cars. But the bracket that screws into the divider bar is unique to the trucks.

[packard352]

Hi Skip,

Thanks for the link, but I'm happy enough to hear back from you later when you've had a chance to see what you may have.
Richard