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Sure they were, I can't think of a model that was NOT built with R2 Super Jet Thrust Power, even Wagonaires, but of course there were MORE Larks and Hawks built with R1 Jet Thrust Power.StudeRich
Second Generation Stude Driver,
Proud '54 Starliner Owner
SDC Member Since 1967
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Actually TWO, AND they had Car 4 Speeds, and Avanti Disc Brakes, I knew the owner of one who bought it from the Original owner: Paxton Products Division of Studebaker Corp.StudeRich
Second Generation Stude Driver,
Proud '54 Starliner Owner
SDC Member Since 1967
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Originally posted by Colgate Studebaker View PostA while back (years ago) I remember there was a Champ pick up ordered with the R2 and the factory built it. Bill
Here's the Production Order for the white one. I saw it at Snider Studebaker in Indianapolis when I was 17 years old, before it was delivered to the original owner. Click to enlarge:
BP
We've got to quit saying, "How stupid can you be?" Too many people are taking it as a challenge.
G. K. Chesterton: This triangle of truisms, of father, mother, and child, cannot be destroyed; it can only destroy those civilizations which disregard it.
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Originally posted by StudeRich View PostActually TWO, AND they had Car 4 Speeds, and Avanti Disc Brakes, I knew the owner of one who bought it from the Original owner: Paxton Products Division of Studebaker Corp.We've got to quit saying, "How stupid can you be?" Too many people are taking it as a challenge.
G. K. Chesterton: This triangle of truisms, of father, mother, and child, cannot be destroyed; it can only destroy those civilizations which disregard it.
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Originally posted by Milaca View PostZip Van?Gary L.
Wappinger, NY
SDC member since 1968
Studebaker enthusiast much longer
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Originally posted by BobPalma View PostRich, the black one had a 4-speed; the white one was an automatic. (See the white one's Build Order, above.) BP
I see the P.O. for the White one was changed from maybe 4.54 or 4.09 to 3.73, it's use or ownersship may changed after being ordered.StudeRich
Second Generation Stude Driver,
Proud '54 Starliner Owner
SDC Member Since 1967
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Originally posted by 8E45E View PostI'm not certain why you state 'offered'. They were built to contract as per USPS specifications and never intended for public distribution.
CraigGary L.
Wappinger, NY
SDC member since 1968
Studebaker enthusiast much longer
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Originally posted by studegary View PostI think that you are just playing with semantics here, not the basic facts. Didn't Studebaker offer these Zip Vans to the US Gov. to fulfill a contract?
According to Eugene Hardig, Studebaker couldn't even choose the design of the grille: http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.c...erti-papers-18
Craig
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Jack Erny owned the Black Champ truck. He came to Tucson when his job at Studebaker ended. He had the car for 20 years here; he swapped the SN-60 for A/C compressor in Arizona. He sold it to a business man that had it for a couple of years. When the truck came up for sale, Lou Fencl went and looked at it and copied the serial number. He sent off to get the production order and it came back with four pages! The owner called Lou if he was still interested. Lou was a man of few words so he said he was going to take another look, but did stop by the bank to draw out the cash.
I rode in the truck after Lou put it back together. I was taking pictures so we went way out east in Tucson. Lou had the truck up to 90 in third gear when he backed off. I sent the pictures, copies of the production order and wrote an article for Turning Wheels. I made the mistake of not keeping copies of everything as I thought there was going to be an article. I did write the editor and did speak to her husband at one of the national meets. He did acknowledge they received my pictures and article. I did not get them back.
Lou sold the truck to Scott in Scottsdale then the last I heard the truck was in the Dakotas.
Bob Miles
Pacific Southwest Zone Coordinator
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Bob,
Being a tire guy, I find it interesting that on your build sheet it shows that the tires were up-sized to 800 x 15 (more likely an application for hearses) and were of 4 ply construction indication more of a passenger intention rather than heavy ply truck use. Equipped with an automatic someone came to their senses and chose 3:73 over the original more truck like 4:09's.
Bill
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