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Desert Explorer
10-02-2018, 12:44 AM
I have the good fortune of having a 1955 C5 Commander Regal Coupe with Body#8 called out on the body tag. So now I am trying to get a rough idea of how many other survivors are out there, bearing a single digit body number. Particularly curious about 55 Commanders for obvious reasons. Still if you have any year, model or trim configuration and the body number is a single digit. Please chime in here. Its got to be a fairly exclusive club, so informal poll to see just how many survive.

64V-K7
10-02-2018, 06:31 AM
A friend of mine owns 1955 Champion Sedan #5

BobPalma
10-02-2018, 08:30 AM
;) Single-digit body numbers ended with the 1958 model year; the first 1959 model year bodies welded up were #101. :cool: BP

8E45E
10-02-2018, 08:34 AM
A friend of mine owns 1955 Champion Sedan #5

I guess it is close to you in VA: http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.com/showthread.php?5369-High-body-tag-number

And a couple other #1's mentioned here:http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.com/showthread.php?47090-How-many-body-1-cars-out-there-Here�s-one-(1949-Champion)

Craig

Studebaker Wheel
10-02-2018, 12:09 PM
1949 Champion convertible. Body #1. Was here in Illinois for many years. Owner moved to Arizona. Now on loan to a museum there.
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(S)
10-02-2018, 12:31 PM
My M truck is 43,400 something. What'd I win?

Desert Explorer
10-04-2018, 04:07 PM
;) Single-digit body numbers ended with the 1958 model year; the first 1959 model year bodies welded up were #101. :cool: BP

I would gladly open this up to post 58 cars and trucks with 101-109, its the same question. How many of the first 9 bodies manufactured (or numbered if you prefer) are surviving.

Desert Explorer
10-04-2018, 04:10 PM
Looks like this informal pole has yielded 2 other than mine so far. I know there is more as I have seen a few in TW, and a bunch of Body tags in that article, but presumably those are no longer surviving if the tag is alone in a collection. Anyone else? Maybe there is just "almost none" still in existence. How funny would it be if there are less than 9 total.

StudeRich
10-04-2018, 05:22 PM
I have a '58 President Sedan that probably is the ONLY '58 Studebaker extant that was ordered with AC-2887 Power Antenna, Cowl Mounted, maybe the ONLY President 4 Door with same ordered.

But the truth is, just like your Body #8, this trivia is cool, but has very little value or even significance at all, and no one cares. :(

8E45E
10-05-2018, 07:05 AM
In the case of a 1947, 1953, 1956 Golden Hawk, 1963 Lark, or 1963 Avanti, it may not have been very reassuring at all to own 'Body #1' when it was brand new. The original owner no doubt would have experienced more annoyances such as rattles, leaks, and wind noise than those with much later body numbers.

The Lamberti reports give excellent insight on the Avanti's ongoing production problems.

Craig

Desert Explorer
10-09-2018, 12:40 PM
I have a '58 President Sedan that probably is the ONLY '58 Studebaker extant that was ordered with AC-2887 Power Antenna, Cowl Mounted, maybe the ONLY President 4 Door with same ordered.

But the truth is, just like your Body #8, this trivia is cool, but has very little value or even significance at all, and no one cares. :(

Yeah I am staring to get that. Strange how that kind of stuff is so highly sought after and ads value in other areas of car collecting as a hobby, but not with our lovable Studes!

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In the case of a 1947, 1953, 1956 Golden Hawk, 1963 Lark, or 1963 Avanti, it may not have been very reassuring at all to own 'Body #1' when it was brand new. The original owner no doubt would have experienced more annoyances such as rattles, leaks, and wind noise than those with much later body numbers.

The Lamberti reports give excellent insight on the Avanti's ongoing production problems.

Craig

I am crossing my fingers that some of our astute folks keeping the various registry will chime in here.

DEEPNHOCK
10-09-2018, 12:56 PM
Well.... I care..

Body Numbers Matter!

StudeRich
10-09-2018, 02:00 PM
Well.... I care..

Body Numbers Matter!

Hmmm, are we talking about CARS here Jeff? :D

Desert Explorer
10-16-2018, 04:23 PM
Well.... I care..

Body Numbers Matter!

Thanks! Figured I was not alone! From the number of responses here, gotta guess almost none of the single digit (or equivalent) cars still exist. That = rare even if it does not affect value in this slice of the hobby!

(S)
05-14-2019, 05:29 PM
8101281013 A local WA car that swings by for parts 81014

The 4 th Los Angeles Car , Body # 19

studegary
05-14-2019, 09:19 PM
8101281013 A local WA car that swings by for parts 81014

The 4 th Los Angeles Car , Body # 19

I believe that would be the fifth, not fourth LA President, not "Car".

Desert Explorer
05-18-2019, 07:32 PM
8101281013 A local WA car that swings by for parts 81014

The 4 th Los Angeles Car , Body # 19

ABSOLUTELY AWESOME! I knew there had to be a few left!

8E45E
05-18-2019, 08:48 PM
https://live.staticflickr.com/3730/9759126495_7383cd4386_k.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/46961611865_3be1eaac93_k.jpg

Craig

studegary
05-18-2019, 10:39 PM
https://live.staticflickr.com/3730/9759126495_7383cd4386_k.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/46961611865_3be1eaac93_k.jpg

Craig

This Golden Hawk had a long streamer attached to the body tag (the streamer has been removed). I wonder what it was. My guess is std. trans. (w/od), but looks like it was too long for that.

Dwain G.
05-18-2019, 11:13 PM
That's 6030042, and it had a lot of accessories. My guess is the steamer said power seats power windows. Or P SEAT P WIND, something like that.

studegary
05-18-2019, 11:27 PM
That's 6030042, and it had a lot of accessories. My guess is the steamer said power seats power windows. Or P SEAT P WIND, something like that.

That would be the 42nd South Bend 1956 Golden Hawk and it was assembled using the 5th body welded up!

8E45E
05-19-2019, 08:32 AM
This Golden Hawk had a long streamer attached to the body tag (the streamer has been removed). I wonder what it was. My guess is std. trans. (w/od), but looks like it was too long for that.

Unfortunately, I have no idea, and neither does the owner who's dad owned it since the early 1970's at least. The streamer was missing when he bought it, and figured the dealer may have removed it. Dwain is correct in that it being a power window and power seat car, and I would also guess it stated the same on the streamer.

Craig

(S)
05-19-2019, 10:41 PM
Gary, The serial numbers for the 56 J started at 6,800,001 The first car or model of car was referred to as Starting serial number, 001, not 000

The 55 I posted IS the 5th, not the 4th and this 56J is 41 not 42......

studegary
05-20-2019, 12:06 PM
Gary, The serial numbers for the 56 J started at 6,800,001 The first car or model of car was referred to as Starting serial number, 001, not 000

The 55 I posted IS the 5th, not the 4th and this 56J is 41 not 42......

I agree with your starting point. You need to check your math. You do not just subtract the numbers to get the count. You subtract and add one. I will try to explain this with an example. Suppose the numbers start with 001. 010 is then the tenth unit (not the ninth). Count them out; 001, 002, 003, 004, 005, 006, 007, 008, 009, 010. That makes 010 the tenth unit. (If the numbers did start with 000, you would have to add one more for the 000 unit.)

Desert Explorer
05-20-2019, 10:49 PM
That is cool. Love this stuff, and seeing these. Where do you find the number to calculate from which build number the car is?

Dwain G.
05-21-2019, 01:55 PM
Starting serial numbers for each year are in the corresponding parts books. More information can be found in Turning Wheels feature article for that particular vehicle.

(S)
05-22-2019, 05:14 PM
Not the first time I mixed up some numbers.

Desert Explorer
06-05-2019, 02:58 PM
Anybody could. Still a lovely car.