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CarlW
07-24-2006, 09:39 PM
Hi,

Could anyone give me an approximate value of a pair of unused chrome license plate frames marked "Waters Studebaker" (top of frame) and "San Francisco" (bottom of frame)? Also any history on the Waters dealership (street location, years in business)? Thanks,Carlhttp://home.comcast.net/~eclubs/DSCF1462.JPG

Dick Steinkamp
07-24-2006, 11:31 PM
quote:Originally posted by CarlW

Hi,

Could anyone give me an approximate value of a pair of unused chrome license plate frames


Here's a couple of searches for completed eBay items...

http://search-completed.ebay.com/vintage-license-plate-frame_W0QQcatrefZC6QQcoactionZcompareQQcoentrypageZsearchQQcopagenumZ1QQfisZ2QQf romZR10QQfsooZ2QQfsopZ1QQmppfqyZvintageQ20dealerQ20licenseQ20plateQ20frameQQsaca tZQ2d1QQsaprchiZQQsaprcloZQQssPageNameZRC0023

http://search-completed.ebay.com/vintage-dealer-frame_W0QQcatrefZC6QQcoactionZcompareQQcoentrypageZsearchQQcopagenumZ1QQfisZ2QQf romZR10QQfsooZ2QQfsopZ1QQmppfqyZvintageQ20dealerQ20licenseQ20plateQ20frameQQsaca tZQ2d1QQsaprchiZQQsaprcloZQQssPageNameZRC0022

Nothing really comparable to what you have there.

Pretty special.



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Dick Steinkamp
07-24-2006, 11:31 PM
quote:Originally posted by CarlW

Hi,

Could anyone give me an approximate value of a pair of unused chrome license plate frames


Here's a couple of searches for completed eBay items...

http://search-completed.ebay.com/vintage-license-plate-frame_W0QQcatrefZC6QQcoactionZcompareQQcoentrypageZsearchQQcopagenumZ1QQfisZ2QQf romZR10QQfsooZ2QQfsopZ1QQmppfqyZvintageQ20dealerQ20licenseQ20plateQ20frameQQsaca tZQ2d1QQsaprchiZQQsaprcloZQQssPageNameZRC0023

http://search-completed.ebay.com/vintage-dealer-frame_W0QQcatrefZC6QQcoactionZcompareQQcoentrypageZsearchQQcopagenumZ1QQfisZ2QQf romZR10QQfsooZ2QQfsopZ1QQmppfqyZvintageQ20dealerQ20licenseQ20plateQ20frameQQsaca tZQ2d1QQsaprchiZQQsaprcloZQQssPageNameZRC0022

Nothing really comparable to what you have there.

Pretty special.



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JDP
07-24-2006, 11:38 PM
I paid $45 for a Frost and French frame on ebay last year. Here:

http://www.stude.com/HR/06240001.jpg

http://stude.com/sig.jpg
Studebaker On The Net
http://stude.com
Studebaker News Group
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.autos.studebaker
Arnold Md.
64 Daytona HT
63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk
63 GT Hawk
63 Avanti R1/AC
63 Avanti R2/4 speed
62 Lark 2 door
62 GT(parts car)
60 Hawk
56 Power Hawk/4 speed/289
51 Commander

JDP
07-24-2006, 11:38 PM
I paid $45 for a Frost and French frame on ebay last year. Here:

http://www.stude.com/HR/06240001.jpg

http://stude.com/sig.jpg
Studebaker On The Net
http://stude.com
Studebaker News Group
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.autos.studebaker
Arnold Md.
64 Daytona HT
63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk
63 GT Hawk
63 Avanti R1/AC
63 Avanti R2/4 speed
62 Lark 2 door
62 GT(parts car)
60 Hawk
56 Power Hawk/4 speed/289
51 Commander

StudeDave57
07-24-2006, 11:42 PM
Let me find out where my '57 Champion was delivered to, and I'll get back with you... :D
I 'found' her in that part of the State, so maybe I could use it? Based on the above (Dick's post) what do YOU want for it? You can email me 'offline' if you would like.


StudeDave [8D]
V/P San Diego County SDC
San Diego, Ca

'54 Commander 4dr
'57 Parkview (it's a 2dr wagon...)
'57 Commander 2dr
'57 Champion 2dr
'58 Packard sedan
'65 Cruiser

StudeDave57
07-24-2006, 11:42 PM
Let me find out where my '57 Champion was delivered to, and I'll get back with you... :D
I 'found' her in that part of the State, so maybe I could use it? Based on the above (Dick's post) what do YOU want for it? You can email me 'offline' if you would like.


StudeDave [8D]
V/P San Diego County SDC
San Diego, Ca

'54 Commander 4dr
'57 Parkview (it's a 2dr wagon...)
'57 Commander 2dr
'57 Champion 2dr
'58 Packard sedan
'65 Cruiser

Starlite51
07-24-2006, 11:44 PM
Before you put them on ebay call me


i would like to purchase them ..if you are gonna sell them

John

Sacto 916-764-0700

Starlite51
07-24-2006, 11:44 PM
Before you put them on ebay call me


i would like to purchase them ..if you are gonna sell them

John

Sacto 916-764-0700

Roscomacaw
07-25-2006, 12:14 AM
I've been collecting Stude plate frames. I'd be interested as well. I really only want one but would take both.

Miscreant at large.

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President 2-dr
1955 President State
1951 Champion Biz cpe
1963 Daytona project FS

Roscomacaw
07-25-2006, 12:14 AM
I've been collecting Stude plate frames. I'd be interested as well. I really only want one but would take both.

Miscreant at large.

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President 2-dr
1955 President State
1951 Champion Biz cpe
1963 Daytona project FS

Starlite51
07-25-2006, 11:16 AM
Bummer

I got a call back from Carl .. he found the plates in garage sale
he's in IL and is not into Studebakers at all .... he will not sell them now too afraid he will sell them too low ..

He just used the forum to set his reserve for an ebay auction

so get "ready to bid to win" ... argh..

wished he would of been more up front instead dangling them here for us to drool over

John
Sacramento

Starlite51
07-25-2006, 11:16 AM
Bummer

I got a call back from Carl .. he found the plates in garage sale
he's in IL and is not into Studebakers at all .... he will not sell them now too afraid he will sell them too low ..

He just used the forum to set his reserve for an ebay auction

so get "ready to bid to win" ... argh..

wished he would of been more up front instead dangling them here for us to drool over

John
Sacramento

CarlW
07-25-2006, 12:14 PM
John,

Sorry you were upset. I had been trying to find info on the web on these to establish if they had much value. I called the National Automobile Dealers Association, San Francisco Chamber of Commerce, San Francisco Library and a local San Francisco auto dealer who has been in business for decades. Not being able to find much intrigued me even more and once finding your forum thought you guys would have some answers. My post was not intended to "dangle them" in front of you. For all I knew these are seen often in your circle and do not command much value. As mentioned in our conversation I do have some Ebay experience and was leaning towards that as a way to receive a fair price should they be worth more than a few dollars (if the latter was the case I would rather hang them in my garage). Should they go to Ebay I will put a fair reserve on them (assuming I somehow find out what fair is) and contact you directly so you have an opportunity to add them to your collection.

Sincerely,
Carl W.


P.S. Should this be of any interest, these were found at Chicago's Maxwell Street Market (my Sunday hobby) from a vendor who charges to clean out basements and garages.

CarlW
07-25-2006, 12:14 PM
John,

Sorry you were upset. I had been trying to find info on the web on these to establish if they had much value. I called the National Automobile Dealers Association, San Francisco Chamber of Commerce, San Francisco Library and a local San Francisco auto dealer who has been in business for decades. Not being able to find much intrigued me even more and once finding your forum thought you guys would have some answers. My post was not intended to "dangle them" in front of you. For all I knew these are seen often in your circle and do not command much value. As mentioned in our conversation I do have some Ebay experience and was leaning towards that as a way to receive a fair price should they be worth more than a few dollars (if the latter was the case I would rather hang them in my garage). Should they go to Ebay I will put a fair reserve on them (assuming I somehow find out what fair is) and contact you directly so you have an opportunity to add them to your collection.

Sincerely,
Carl W.


P.S. Should this be of any interest, these were found at Chicago's Maxwell Street Market (my Sunday hobby) from a vendor who charges to clean out basements and garages.

Dick Steinkamp
07-25-2006, 04:22 PM
quote:Originally posted by Starlite51

Bummer

I got a call back from Carl .. he found the plates in garage sale
he's in IL and is not into Studebakers at all .... he will not sell them now too afraid he will sell them too low ..

He just used the forum to set his reserve for an ebay auction

so get "ready to bid to win" ... argh..

wished he would of been more up front instead dangling them here for us to drool over

John
Sacramento




I'm not sure I get all that. I personally can't see what Carl did wrong. These frames are obviously rare and may be worth quite a bit. We will all get a chance to purchase them if Carl eBays them. Sounds fair to me. Should Carl not be entitled to market price for his find?


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Dick Steinkamp
07-25-2006, 04:22 PM
quote:Originally posted by Starlite51

Bummer

I got a call back from Carl .. he found the plates in garage sale
he's in IL and is not into Studebakers at all .... he will not sell them now too afraid he will sell them too low ..

He just used the forum to set his reserve for an ebay auction

so get "ready to bid to win" ... argh..

wished he would of been more up front instead dangling them here for us to drool over

John
Sacramento




I'm not sure I get all that. I personally can't see what Carl did wrong. These frames are obviously rare and may be worth quite a bit. We will all get a chance to purchase them if Carl eBays them. Sounds fair to me. Should Carl not be entitled to market price for his find?


http://thenobot.org/images/s2d/s2d_01.jpg

slinger
07-26-2006, 04:53 PM
Hmmmm..... I'm very into Studes, with 2 '53 Coupes. And other stuff. Just went to an auction and picked up some NOS dash chrome for 53-54 cars. I don't want to "dangle" it here, but I'd like to determine a value. Can someone suggest a way I can do that without incurring the membership's ire?

Thanx, Art

slinger
07-26-2006, 04:53 PM
Hmmmm..... I'm very into Studes, with 2 '53 Coupes. And other stuff. Just went to an auction and picked up some NOS dash chrome for 53-54 cars. I don't want to "dangle" it here, but I'd like to determine a value. Can someone suggest a way I can do that without incurring the membership's ire?

Thanx, Art

Guido
07-26-2006, 05:20 PM
quote:Originally posted by Starlite51

wished he would of been more up front instead dangling them here for us to drool over

As I read Carl's initial post he was merely using the forum to inquire as to the value of the frames and obtain information on the dealership. I do not see where he offered them for sale or indicated they would be avialable in the future.

Looks like a case of someone being disappointed that the owner realized that they have value before he was able to obtain them.[xx(]

Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

1946 M-16 fire truck
1948 M-16 grain truck
1949 2R16A grain truck
1949 2R17A fire truck
1955 E-38 grain truck
1957 3E-40 flatbed
1961 6E-28 grain truck
1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck
1962 7E-7 Champ pickup
1962 GT Hawk 4 speed
1964 Avanti R2 4 speed
1964 Cruiser
And various other "treasures"
Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond & Louisa, Va.

Guido
07-26-2006, 05:20 PM
quote:Originally posted by Starlite51

wished he would of been more up front instead dangling them here for us to drool over

As I read Carl's initial post he was merely using the forum to inquire as to the value of the frames and obtain information on the dealership. I do not see where he offered them for sale or indicated they would be avialable in the future.

Looks like a case of someone being disappointed that the owner realized that they have value before he was able to obtain them.[xx(]

Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

1946 M-16 fire truck
1948 M-16 grain truck
1949 2R16A grain truck
1949 2R17A fire truck
1955 E-38 grain truck
1957 3E-40 flatbed
1961 6E-28 grain truck
1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck
1962 7E-7 Champ pickup
1962 GT Hawk 4 speed
1964 Avanti R2 4 speed
1964 Cruiser
And various other "treasures"
Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond & Louisa, Va.

JDP
07-26-2006, 06:10 PM
I agree, ther was not one mention that they were for sale in his post. He was looking for value and history. I don't blame him for seeking information. When I first found the Studebaker NG, I merely mentioned I found all four fenders NOS for a 53-54 C-K and got a $200 offer to take them off my hands.Now, they know I didn't just fall off a turnip truck.:)

http://stude.com/sig.jpg
Studebaker On The Net
http://stude.com
Studebaker News Group
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.autos.studebaker
Arnold Md.
64 Daytona HT
63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk
63 GT Hawk
63 Avanti R1/AC
63 Avanti R2/4 speed
62 Lark 2 door
62 GT(parts car)
60 Hawk
56 Power Hawk/4 speed/289
51 Commander

JDP
07-26-2006, 06:10 PM
I agree, ther was not one mention that they were for sale in his post. He was looking for value and history. I don't blame him for seeking information. When I first found the Studebaker NG, I merely mentioned I found all four fenders NOS for a 53-54 C-K and got a $200 offer to take them off my hands.Now, they know I didn't just fall off a turnip truck.:)

http://stude.com/sig.jpg
Studebaker On The Net
http://stude.com
Studebaker News Group
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.autos.studebaker
Arnold Md.
64 Daytona HT
63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk
63 GT Hawk
63 Avanti R1/AC
63 Avanti R2/4 speed
62 Lark 2 door
62 GT(parts car)
60 Hawk
56 Power Hawk/4 speed/289
51 Commander

Dick Steinkamp
07-26-2006, 07:58 PM
quote:Originally posted by slinger

Hmmmm..... I'm very into Studes, with 2 '53 Coupes. And other stuff. Just went to an auction and picked up some NOS dash chrome for 53-54 cars. I don't want to "dangle" it here, but I'd like to determine a value. Can someone suggest a way I can do that without incurring the membership's ire?

Thanx, Art


Give it a shot. There's always the chance that you will incur SOMEBODY's wrath for "dangling". Also, one of us may suggest a value that SOMEBODY may consider low and accuse us of driving DOWN Stude parts prices. SOMEBODY else may see that value as high and accuse us of driving UP Stude parts prices. 99.9% of the folks here, however, just try to help eachother out.

Which pieces? (some pieces are different between 53 and 54 and between Commander and Champion). What condition (NOS isn't always perfect)? Any pictures?



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Dick Steinkamp
07-26-2006, 07:58 PM
quote:Originally posted by slinger

Hmmmm..... I'm very into Studes, with 2 '53 Coupes. And other stuff. Just went to an auction and picked up some NOS dash chrome for 53-54 cars. I don't want to "dangle" it here, but I'd like to determine a value. Can someone suggest a way I can do that without incurring the membership's ire?

Thanx, Art


Give it a shot. There's always the chance that you will incur SOMEBODY's wrath for "dangling". Also, one of us may suggest a value that SOMEBODY may consider low and accuse us of driving DOWN Stude parts prices. SOMEBODY else may see that value as high and accuse us of driving UP Stude parts prices. 99.9% of the folks here, however, just try to help eachother out.

Which pieces? (some pieces are different between 53 and 54 and between Commander and Champion). What condition (NOS isn't always perfect)? Any pictures?



http://thenobot.org/images/s2d/s2d_01.jpg

studeclunker
07-27-2006, 10:24 AM
Perhaps some of the members of this forum (like me)have gotten a bit frustrated with the prices being generated by the e-bay auctions.:(

It's kind of like realestate on the west coast. The insane prices that are being commanded for property out here are really good for sellers.:D My children on the other hand, have no hope at all of ever owning a home.[V] My daughter lives and works in the San Fransisco Bay Area and SHACKS go for a cool mil there![:0]

The same thing (to a limited extent) seems to be going on with Studebakers and their paraphernalia on e-bay. There are many people who seem to be bidding just to run the price up.[}:)] Multiple bids by one person. When no one else is bidding even. Like I said, good for the sellers.;)

It's kind of like the phrase; 'Money isn't everything.' Some people say that only poor people say that. Others say the opposite, that only rich people say that.

The reverse argument to this is that people need to start saying no to the high prices. Let the guy hang the plate frames in his garage for a while. Then when he's sick of looking at them he might be willing to sell them for a more reasonable price. And that goes for everything else. The general public needs to say no to a lot of things. Including tomatoes that are more expensive than avacadoes. But that's another rant for another day.;)

Sorry for nattering along so long.[:I]



Lotsa Larks!
K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
Ron Smith

studeclunker
07-27-2006, 10:24 AM
Perhaps some of the members of this forum (like me)have gotten a bit frustrated with the prices being generated by the e-bay auctions.:(

It's kind of like realestate on the west coast. The insane prices that are being commanded for property out here are really good for sellers.:D My children on the other hand, have no hope at all of ever owning a home.[V] My daughter lives and works in the San Fransisco Bay Area and SHACKS go for a cool mil there![:0]

The same thing (to a limited extent) seems to be going on with Studebakers and their paraphernalia on e-bay. There are many people who seem to be bidding just to run the price up.[}:)] Multiple bids by one person. When no one else is bidding even. Like I said, good for the sellers.;)

It's kind of like the phrase; 'Money isn't everything.' Some people say that only poor people say that. Others say the opposite, that only rich people say that.

The reverse argument to this is that people need to start saying no to the high prices. Let the guy hang the plate frames in his garage for a while. Then when he's sick of looking at them he might be willing to sell them for a more reasonable price. And that goes for everything else. The general public needs to say no to a lot of things. Including tomatoes that are more expensive than avacadoes. But that's another rant for another day.;)

Sorry for nattering along so long.[:I]



Lotsa Larks!
K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
Ron Smith

Dick Steinkamp
07-27-2006, 12:08 PM
quote:Originally posted by studeclunker

Perhaps some of the members of this forum (like me)have gotten a bit frustrated with the prices being generated by the e-bay auctions.:(

It's kind of like realestate on the west coast. The insane prices that are being commanded for property out here are really good for sellers. My children on the other hand, have no hope at all of ever owning a home. My daughter lives and works in the San Fransisco Bay Area and SHACKS go for a cool mil there![:0]

The same thing seems to be going on with Studebakers and their paraphernalia on e-bay. There are many people who seem to be bidding just to run the price up. Multiple bids by one person. When no one else is bidding even. Like I said, good for the sellers.

It's kind of like the phrase; 'Money isn't everything.' Some people say that only poor people say that. Others say the opposite, that only rich people say that.

The reverse argument to this is that people need to start saying no to the high prices. Let the guy hang the plate frames in his garage for a while. Then when he's sick of looking at them he might be willing to sell them for a more reasonable price. And that goes for everything else. The general public needs to say no to a lot of things. Including tomatoes that are more expensive than avacadoes. But that's another rant for another day.

Sorry for nattering along so long.[:I]

Lotsa Larks!
K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
Ron Smith


Ron,
The market is what it is...real estate, Stude cars and parts, or tomatoes. It's called capitalism. It actually works pretty good. As buyers, we may not like at times, but we're not going to control it.

IMHO, the one of the purest forms of capitalism is eBay. A seller gets literally millions of "eyes" world wide on their item and the "market" determines what it is worth. I've bought Stude parts on eBay and sold Stude parts. I was pleased with both types of transactions. There are parts I might never have found if it wasn't for eBay and I was happy to pay market price for them. The excess parts that I have sold would have probably gone for less if I marketed them in just my small geographic area. The multiple bids you see are probably either a bidder "fishing" for the item's reserve, or a bidder upping their proxy bid to insure they get the item. Sure, there are "shills" and other abuses, but I don't personally don't believe there is a conspiricy out there to bid up Stude prices on eBay. In fact, there was a thread just last week that implied that Studebaker owners consistently DEVALUED Stude cars and parts. Go figure [?]

I don't think the guy with the license plate frames indicated he wanted an UNREASONABLE price for them. If he puts them on eBay, he can only get what the "market" allows. I personally don't think that is unreasonable or greedy. My personaly opinion is that this pair of license frames is rare and somewhat desireable (NOS, matched pair, with paper inserts). I believe several people would be keenly interested in them and that at least a few of those people would be willing to pay a pretty penny to own them. I can't understand why Carl should sell them for less than what the market thinks they are worth.

In spite of the fact that I also long for the good old days of $25 NOS '53 C/K grill surrounds, and $100 289 crate engines, Stude cars and parts are still a bargain. Try restoring a '57 Chevy or an early Mustang or MoPar muscle car.

I've got a deal for you Ron. You start the "say no to high prices" campaign. I'll help by buying your California real estate for 1/2 of market value :D

http://thenobot.org/images/s2d/s2d_01.jpg

Dick Steinkamp
07-27-2006, 12:08 PM
quote:Originally posted by studeclunker

Perhaps some of the members of this forum (like me)have gotten a bit frustrated with the prices being generated by the e-bay auctions.:(

It's kind of like realestate on the west coast. The insane prices that are being commanded for property out here are really good for sellers. My children on the other hand, have no hope at all of ever owning a home. My daughter lives and works in the San Fransisco Bay Area and SHACKS go for a cool mil there![:0]

The same thing seems to be going on with Studebakers and their paraphernalia on e-bay. There are many people who seem to be bidding just to run the price up. Multiple bids by one person. When no one else is bidding even. Like I said, good for the sellers.

It's kind of like the phrase; 'Money isn't everything.' Some people say that only poor people say that. Others say the opposite, that only rich people say that.

The reverse argument to this is that people need to start saying no to the high prices. Let the guy hang the plate frames in his garage for a while. Then when he's sick of looking at them he might be willing to sell them for a more reasonable price. And that goes for everything else. The general public needs to say no to a lot of things. Including tomatoes that are more expensive than avacadoes. But that's another rant for another day.

Sorry for nattering along so long.[:I]

Lotsa Larks!
K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
Ron Smith


Ron,
The market is what it is...real estate, Stude cars and parts, or tomatoes. It's called capitalism. It actually works pretty good. As buyers, we may not like at times, but we're not going to control it.

IMHO, the one of the purest forms of capitalism is eBay. A seller gets literally millions of "eyes" world wide on their item and the "market" determines what it is worth. I've bought Stude parts on eBay and sold Stude parts. I was pleased with both types of transactions. There are parts I might never have found if it wasn't for eBay and I was happy to pay market price for them. The excess parts that I have sold would have probably gone for less if I marketed them in just my small geographic area. The multiple bids you see are probably either a bidder "fishing" for the item's reserve, or a bidder upping their proxy bid to insure they get the item. Sure, there are "shills" and other abuses, but I don't personally don't believe there is a conspiricy out there to bid up Stude prices on eBay. In fact, there was a thread just last week that implied that Studebaker owners consistently DEVALUED Stude cars and parts. Go figure [?]

I don't think the guy with the license plate frames indicated he wanted an UNREASONABLE price for them. If he puts them on eBay, he can only get what the "market" allows. I personally don't think that is unreasonable or greedy. My personaly opinion is that this pair of license frames is rare and somewhat desireable (NOS, matched pair, with paper inserts). I believe several people would be keenly interested in them and that at least a few of those people would be willing to pay a pretty penny to own them. I can't understand why Carl should sell them for less than what the market thinks they are worth.

In spite of the fact that I also long for the good old days of $25 NOS '53 C/K grill surrounds, and $100 289 crate engines, Stude cars and parts are still a bargain. Try restoring a '57 Chevy or an early Mustang or MoPar muscle car.

I've got a deal for you Ron. You start the "say no to high prices" campaign. I'll help by buying your California real estate for 1/2 of market value :D

http://thenobot.org/images/s2d/s2d_01.jpg

Guido
08-03-2006, 10:03 PM
It appears that Carl is selling one of his frames, I just saw this listed on e-Bay with an opening bid of $79.95 and $8.95 for shipping.

http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-Vintage-STUDEBAKER-Dealer-License-Plate-Frame_W0QQitemZ110017377387QQihZ001QQcategoryZ33758QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

1946 M-16 fire truck
1948 M-16 grain truck
1949 2R16A grain truck
1949 2R17A fire truck
1955 E-38 grain truck
1957 3E-40 flatbed
1961 6E-28 grain truck
1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck
1962 7E-7 Champ pickup
1962 GT Hawk 4 speed
1964 Avanti R2 4 speed
1964 Cruiser
And various other "treasures"
Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond & Louisa, Va.

Guido
08-03-2006, 10:03 PM
It appears that Carl is selling one of his frames, I just saw this listed on e-Bay with an opening bid of $79.95 and $8.95 for shipping.

http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-Vintage-STUDEBAKER-Dealer-License-Plate-Frame_W0QQitemZ110017377387QQihZ001QQcategoryZ33758QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

1946 M-16 fire truck
1948 M-16 grain truck
1949 2R16A grain truck
1949 2R17A fire truck
1955 E-38 grain truck
1957 3E-40 flatbed
1961 6E-28 grain truck
1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck
1962 7E-7 Champ pickup
1962 GT Hawk 4 speed
1964 Avanti R2 4 speed
1964 Cruiser
And various other "treasures"
Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond & Louisa, Va.

Dick Steinkamp
08-04-2006, 09:10 AM
quote:Originally posted by Guido

It appears that Carl is selling one of his frames, I just saw this listed on e-Bay with an opening bid of $79.95 and $8.95 for shipping.



Nice ad. I guess I would have put it up with a low opening bid and the $80 as a reserve. That way he might have gotton more interest up front AND if it didn't make reserve, he'd have some idea what the "market" thought it was worth. I might have also "bundled" a pair of them. It might be one of those cases where two would sell for more than twice what one would sell for due to the rarity of a NOS pair.

http://thenobot.org/images/s2d/s2d_01.jpg

Dick Steinkamp
08-04-2006, 09:10 AM
quote:Originally posted by Guido

It appears that Carl is selling one of his frames, I just saw this listed on e-Bay with an opening bid of $79.95 and $8.95 for shipping.



Nice ad. I guess I would have put it up with a low opening bid and the $80 as a reserve. That way he might have gotton more interest up front AND if it didn't make reserve, he'd have some idea what the "market" thought it was worth. I might have also "bundled" a pair of them. It might be one of those cases where two would sell for more than twice what one would sell for due to the rarity of a NOS pair.

http://thenobot.org/images/s2d/s2d_01.jpg

Dick Steinkamp
08-04-2006, 08:10 PM
quote:Originally posted by Dick Steinkamp
Nice ad. I guess I would have put it up with a low opening bid...


Ok...I'm wrong again. He already got the opening bid of $80



http://thenobot.org/images/s2d/s2d_01.jpg

Dick Steinkamp
08-04-2006, 08:10 PM
quote:Originally posted by Dick Steinkamp
Nice ad. I guess I would have put it up with a low opening bid...


Ok...I'm wrong again. He already got the opening bid of $80



http://thenobot.org/images/s2d/s2d_01.jpg

Guido
08-04-2006, 09:15 PM
At that type of price, you would think that someone would repop them. Gary Ash, this looks like an opportunity! :D

Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

1946 M-16 fire truck
1948 M-16 grain truck
1949 2R16A grain truck
1949 2R17A fire truck
1955 E-38 grain truck
1957 3E-40 flatbed
1961 6E-28 grain truck
1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck
1962 7E-7 Champ pickup
1962 GT Hawk 4 speed
1964 Avanti R2 4 speed
1964 Cruiser
And various other "treasures"
Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond & Louisa, Va.

Guido
08-04-2006, 09:15 PM
At that type of price, you would think that someone would repop them. Gary Ash, this looks like an opportunity! :D

Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

1946 M-16 fire truck
1948 M-16 grain truck
1949 2R16A grain truck
1949 2R17A fire truck
1955 E-38 grain truck
1957 3E-40 flatbed
1961 6E-28 grain truck
1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck
1962 7E-7 Champ pickup
1962 GT Hawk 4 speed
1964 Avanti R2 4 speed
1964 Cruiser
And various other "treasures"
Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond & Louisa, Va.

Guido
09-18-2006, 08:32 PM
Carl is back with another frame on e-Bay. It has a BIN of $99.95.
http://home.comcast.net/~cyberbargains/DSCF2015.JPG
http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-Vintage-STUDEBAKER-Dealer-License-Plate-Frame_W0QQitemZ110034907160QQihZ001QQcategoryZ33758QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R16A grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures".

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

Guido
09-18-2006, 08:32 PM
Carl is back with another frame on e-Bay. It has a BIN of $99.95.
http://home.comcast.net/~cyberbargains/DSCF2015.JPG
http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-Vintage-STUDEBAKER-Dealer-License-Plate-Frame_W0QQitemZ110034907160QQihZ001QQcategoryZ33758QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R16A grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures".

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

StudeDave57
09-18-2006, 11:06 PM
I'll look for the notification e-mail I'm sure I'll get~
he sent me one last time...

StudeDave [8D]
V/P San Diego County SDC
San Diego, Ca

'54 Commander 4dr
'57 Parkview (it's a 2dr wagon...)
'57 Commander 2dr
'57 Champion 2dr
'58 Packard sedan
'65 Cruiser

StudeDave57
09-18-2006, 11:06 PM
I'll look for the notification e-mail I'm sure I'll get~
he sent me one last time...

StudeDave [8D]
V/P San Diego County SDC
San Diego, Ca

'54 Commander 4dr
'57 Parkview (it's a 2dr wagon...)
'57 Commander 2dr
'57 Champion 2dr
'58 Packard sedan
'65 Cruiser

Guido
10-12-2006, 09:31 PM
The market must have peaked, this one (without the Studebaker name) has a BIN of $59.95.

http://home.comcast.net/~cyberbargains/DSCF2010.JPG
http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Dealer-License-Plate-Frame-Studebaker-Buick_W0QQitemZ110042771552QQihZ001QQcategoryZ33758QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem?hash=ite m110042771552

http://thumb14.webshots.net/t/53/453/1/21/36/2964121360097493054pVJTFL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/57/757/2/88/4/2023288040097493054SEKowB_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/18/19/8/37/21/2050837210097493054IYBJJL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/559/1/43/57/2876143570097493054jKVhDw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/22/22/0/2/68/2589002680097493054ftBuBw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/8/30/30/2075830300097493054aSSlFv_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/459/2/23/86/2067223860097493054YoeGMx_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/5/18/33/2537518330097493054OgEKcN_th.jpg
Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R16A grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures".

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

Guido
10-12-2006, 09:31 PM
The market must have peaked, this one (without the Studebaker name) has a BIN of $59.95.

http://home.comcast.net/~cyberbargains/DSCF2010.JPG
http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Dealer-License-Plate-Frame-Studebaker-Buick_W0QQitemZ110042771552QQihZ001QQcategoryZ33758QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem?hash=ite m110042771552

http://thumb14.webshots.net/t/53/453/1/21/36/2964121360097493054pVJTFL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/57/757/2/88/4/2023288040097493054SEKowB_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/18/19/8/37/21/2050837210097493054IYBJJL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/559/1/43/57/2876143570097493054jKVhDw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/22/22/0/2/68/2589002680097493054ftBuBw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/8/30/30/2075830300097493054aSSlFv_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/459/2/23/86/2067223860097493054YoeGMx_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/5/18/33/2537518330097493054OgEKcN_th.jpg
Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R16A grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures".

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

Randy_G
10-12-2006, 09:49 PM
Gary thanks for kicking this to the top. I got a couple more photos for the dealer listing.

http://www.automotivehistoryonline.com/studerustII.jpg Randy_G
www.automotivehistoryonline.com

Randy_G
10-12-2006, 09:49 PM
Gary thanks for kicking this to the top. I got a couple more photos for the dealer listing.

http://www.automotivehistoryonline.com/studerustII.jpg Randy_G
www.automotivehistoryonline.com

53k
10-13-2006, 02:44 PM
quote:Originally posted by Guido

The market must have peaked, this one (without the Studebaker name) has a BIN of $59.95.


The first two have already sold. I'll bet he wishes he hadn't used the BIN. Maybe we'll see what the true market is on the next ones.

[img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/64%20Daytona%20Convertible/Copy%20of%20DaytonaConvert7-20-06.JPG[/img=right]

Paul Johnson
'53 Commander Starliner (since 1966)
'64 Daytona Wagonaire (original owner)
'64 Daytona Convertible (2006)
Museum R-4 engine

53k
10-13-2006, 02:44 PM
quote:Originally posted by Guido

The market must have peaked, this one (without the Studebaker name) has a BIN of $59.95.


The first two have already sold. I'll bet he wishes he hadn't used the BIN. Maybe we'll see what the true market is on the next ones.

[img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/64%20Daytona%20Convertible/Copy%20of%20DaytonaConvert7-20-06.JPG[/img=right]

Paul Johnson
'53 Commander Starliner (since 1966)
'64 Daytona Wagonaire (original owner)
'64 Daytona Convertible (2006)
Museum R-4 engine

Guido
10-13-2006, 04:07 PM
Paul,

This one may be a bit tougher as it does not have the Studebaker name (or any other manufacturer's name) on it, nor the location. As Waters sold a number of other brands, it may not have even been intended for a Studebaker.

Gary

http://thumb14.webshots.net/t/53/453/1/21/36/2964121360097493054pVJTFL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/57/757/2/88/4/2023288040097493054SEKowB_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/18/19/8/37/21/2050837210097493054IYBJJL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/559/1/43/57/2876143570097493054jKVhDw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/22/22/0/2/68/2589002680097493054ftBuBw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/8/30/30/2075830300097493054aSSlFv_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/459/2/23/86/2067223860097493054YoeGMx_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/5/18/33/2537518330097493054OgEKcN_th.jpg
Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R16A grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures".

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

Guido
10-13-2006, 04:07 PM
Paul,

This one may be a bit tougher as it does not have the Studebaker name (or any other manufacturer's name) on it, nor the location. As Waters sold a number of other brands, it may not have even been intended for a Studebaker.

Gary

http://thumb14.webshots.net/t/53/453/1/21/36/2964121360097493054pVJTFL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/57/757/2/88/4/2023288040097493054SEKowB_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/18/19/8/37/21/2050837210097493054IYBJJL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/559/1/43/57/2876143570097493054jKVhDw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/22/22/0/2/68/2589002680097493054ftBuBw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/8/30/30/2075830300097493054aSSlFv_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/459/2/23/86/2067223860097493054YoeGMx_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/5/18/33/2537518330097493054OgEKcN_th.jpg
Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R16A grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures".

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

DilloCrafter
10-14-2006, 12:34 AM
quote:Originally posted by Dick Steinkamp
Here's a couple of searches for completed eBay items...

http://search-completed.ebay.com/vintage-....
http://search-completed.ebay.com/vintage-....

Nothing really comparable to what you have there.

Pretty special.

http://thenobot.org/images/s2d/s2d_01.jpg


A helpful tip to Dick and everyone: The extra long urls in those eBay listing links are the reason this topic is making everyone's screen so wide, necessitating an eternal scroll to the right to read all the words in everbody's posts.

HERE'S HOW TO PREVENT THAT PROBLEM:

when using the forum's "url" tag, don't just put the link in between the bracketed "url" and "/url". Instead, you can put the link inside that first "url" bracket by doing this:
[url="http://www.whatever.com?id=w98kljnsdkvo"] Here's my first eBay link text [ /url]

http://rocketdillo.com/studebaker/misc/images/Current_Avacar.gif[/img=left] - DilloCrafter

1955 1/2 Ton Pickup
[i]The Red-Headed Amazon
Deep in the heart of Texas

DilloCrafter
10-14-2006, 12:34 AM
quote:Originally posted by Dick Steinkamp
Here's a couple of searches for completed eBay items...

http://search-completed.ebay.com/vintage-....
http://search-completed.ebay.com/vintage-....

Nothing really comparable to what you have there.

Pretty special.

http://thenobot.org/images/s2d/s2d_01.jpg


A helpful tip to Dick and everyone: The extra long urls in those eBay listing links are the reason this topic is making everyone's screen so wide, necessitating an eternal scroll to the right to read all the words in everbody's posts.

HERE'S HOW TO PREVENT THAT PROBLEM:

when using the forum's "url" tag, don't just put the link in between the bracketed "url" and "/url". Instead, you can put the link inside that first "url" bracket by doing this:
[url="http://www.whatever.com?id=w98kljnsdkvo"] Here's my first eBay link text [ /url]

http://rocketdillo.com/studebaker/misc/images/Current_Avacar.gif[/img=left] - DilloCrafter

1955 1/2 Ton Pickup
[i]The Red-Headed Amazon
Deep in the heart of Texas