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showbizkid
10-09-2006, 11:39 AM
I was cruising Google and found this story on a Florida custom site:

http://www.cruisenewsonline.com/58StudebakerWagon/58StudebakerWagon-Feature.html

I'm a sucker for the look of these cars. There's one weird thing in the story where it says that the car has a "304 c.i. Stude motor" - all I can figure is that that's the displacement after being bored out? Nice car though.


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'63 F2/Lark Standard
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Guido
10-09-2006, 11:50 AM
Perhaps a R-3 or a clone? [:p][:p]

http://thumb14.webshots.net/t/53/453/1/21/36/2964121360097493054pVJTFL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/57/757/2/88/4/2023288040097493054SEKowB_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/18/19/8/37/21/2050837210097493054IYBJJL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/559/1/43/57/2876143570097493054jKVhDw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/22/22/0/2/68/2589002680097493054ftBuBw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/8/30/30/2075830300097493054aSSlFv_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/459/2/23/86/2067223860097493054YoeGMx_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/5/18/33/2537518330097493054OgEKcN_th.jpg
Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R16A grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures".

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

Guido
10-09-2006, 11:50 AM
Perhaps a R-3 or a clone? [:p][:p]

http://thumb14.webshots.net/t/53/453/1/21/36/2964121360097493054pVJTFL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/57/757/2/88/4/2023288040097493054SEKowB_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/18/19/8/37/21/2050837210097493054IYBJJL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/559/1/43/57/2876143570097493054jKVhDw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/22/22/0/2/68/2589002680097493054ftBuBw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/8/30/30/2075830300097493054aSSlFv_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/459/2/23/86/2067223860097493054YoeGMx_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/5/18/33/2537518330097493054OgEKcN_th.jpg
Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R16A grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures".

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

StudeDave57
10-09-2006, 12:28 PM
When I was stationed in Mayport, Fl (near Jacksonville) I went to a show that this car showed up to...
Knocked me on my feet it did!!! At that time it wasn't quite finished, after reading the article I'm sorry to see that the original builder didn't live to see it completed. The motor has no blower, but it is BUILT!!! I seem to remember it having a 700R4 trans, but this article says otherwise. I remember thinking that this is almost exactly how I would do a custom- One thing you can't see in the pictures is all the chrome inside, ALL of the trim around the back windows was chromed!!! I had always wanted to 'french' my license plate, and put louvers in the hood- this car showed me what it would look like...
One thing to point out~ this is a '58, but has had a '57 grille installed in it.


StudeDave [8D]
V/P San Diego County SDC
San Diego, Ca

'54 Commander 4dr 'Ruby'
'57 Parkview (it's a 2dr wagon...) 'Betsy'
'57 Commander 2dr 'Baby'
'57 Champion 2dr 'Jewel'
'58 Packard sedan 'Cleo'
'65 Cruiser 'Sweet Pea'

StudeDave57
10-09-2006, 12:28 PM
When I was stationed in Mayport, Fl (near Jacksonville) I went to a show that this car showed up to...
Knocked me on my feet it did!!! At that time it wasn't quite finished, after reading the article I'm sorry to see that the original builder didn't live to see it completed. The motor has no blower, but it is BUILT!!! I seem to remember it having a 700R4 trans, but this article says otherwise. I remember thinking that this is almost exactly how I would do a custom- One thing you can't see in the pictures is all the chrome inside, ALL of the trim around the back windows was chromed!!! I had always wanted to 'french' my license plate, and put louvers in the hood- this car showed me what it would look like...
One thing to point out~ this is a '58, but has had a '57 grille installed in it.


StudeDave [8D]
V/P San Diego County SDC
San Diego, Ca

'54 Commander 4dr 'Ruby'
'57 Parkview (it's a 2dr wagon...) 'Betsy'
'57 Commander 2dr 'Baby'
'57 Champion 2dr 'Jewel'
'58 Packard sedan 'Cleo'
'65 Cruiser 'Sweet Pea'

Roscomacaw
10-09-2006, 01:35 PM
Clark,

R3 & R4 engines were indeed 304cu.in. in displacement.;) It wouldn't take much to make a clone of one.[:p]

BTW, the engine compartment of my 58 Provincial is gonna look like that to some degree when it gulps the 321 that's being constructed to sit there.;)

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle!!

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

Roscomacaw
10-09-2006, 01:35 PM
Clark,

R3 & R4 engines were indeed 304cu.in. in displacement.;) It wouldn't take much to make a clone of one.[:p]

BTW, the engine compartment of my 58 Provincial is gonna look like that to some degree when it gulps the 321 that's being constructed to sit there.;)

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle!!

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

mbstude
10-09-2006, 01:48 PM
quote:BTW, the engine compartment of my 58 Provincial is gonna look like that to some degree when it gulps the 321 that's being constructed to sit there.

[:0] Tell me more!!! [8D]

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/020avatar_river.jpg

mbstude
10-09-2006, 01:48 PM
quote:BTW, the engine compartment of my 58 Provincial is gonna look like that to some degree when it gulps the 321 that's being constructed to sit there.

[:0] Tell me more!!! [8D]

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/020avatar_river.jpg

showbizkid
10-09-2006, 05:48 PM
quote:Originally posted by Mr.Biggs

R3 & R4 engines were indeed 304cu.in. in displacement.;)


Really! I didn't know that. You don't hear (or read) people talk about that very much! Thanks!


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Clark in San Diego
'63 F2/Lark Standard
http://studeblogger.blogspot.com

showbizkid
10-09-2006, 05:48 PM
quote:Originally posted by Mr.Biggs

R3 & R4 engines were indeed 304cu.in. in displacement.;)


Really! I didn't know that. You don't hear (or read) people talk about that very much! Thanks!


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Clark in San Diego
'63 F2/Lark Standard
http://studeblogger.blogspot.com

mbstude
10-09-2006, 05:57 PM
quote:
Really! I didn't know that. You don't hear (or read) people talk about that very much! Thanks!

They are some really cool hi-performance Stude engines. I've ridden in both an R3 and R4 Avantis before. It's a ride you can't forget!
And the sound of that R4 is just phenomenal. [:p] [8D]

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/020avatar_river.jpg

mbstude
10-09-2006, 05:57 PM
quote:
Really! I didn't know that. You don't hear (or read) people talk about that very much! Thanks!

They are some really cool hi-performance Stude engines. I've ridden in both an R3 and R4 Avantis before. It's a ride you can't forget!
And the sound of that R4 is just phenomenal. [:p] [8D]

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/020avatar_river.jpg

JDP
10-09-2006, 06:08 PM
Matthew

Just to pick nits, you might have rode in one of the 9 Avanti R3's, but not a R4 Avanti since they never sold one. Lot's of cars have the R3 airbox and other bits, same with adding a dual 4 barrel manfold to a R1.
There are a handful of clones with all the correct parts,(i.e. the Plain Brown wrapper), but many more wantabees. Just didn't want anyone out there looking in vain for a factory R4 Avanti.
:)

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64 Daytona HT
63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk
63 GT Hawk
63 Avanti R1/AC
63 Avanti R2 (Sold)
63 Daytona HT
63 Lark 2 dr.
62 Lark 2 door
60 Lark convert
60 Hawk
59 3E Truck
57 Silver Hawk
53 Starliner
51 Commander

JDP
10-09-2006, 06:08 PM
Matthew

Just to pick nits, you might have rode in one of the 9 Avanti R3's, but not a R4 Avanti since they never sold one. Lot's of cars have the R3 airbox and other bits, same with adding a dual 4 barrel manfold to a R1.
There are a handful of clones with all the correct parts,(i.e. the Plain Brown wrapper), but many more wantabees. Just didn't want anyone out there looking in vain for a factory R4 Avanti.
:)

http://stude.com/sig.jpg
Studebaker On The Net
http://stude.com
Studebaker News Group
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.autos.studebaker
Arnold Md.
64 Daytona HT
63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk
63 GT Hawk
63 Avanti R1/AC
63 Avanti R2 (Sold)
63 Daytona HT
63 Lark 2 dr.
62 Lark 2 door
60 Lark convert
60 Hawk
59 3E Truck
57 Silver Hawk
53 Starliner
51 Commander

mbstude
10-09-2006, 06:15 PM
You're right JP. The R3 I rode in was originally a R1, but it had a R3 installed years ago. The engine is documented to come straight fomr the Paxton building.
The R4 is that super-nice clone (originally an R1) that belongs to NG'er Michael Float. The engine is built to R4 specs. ;) He has a LOT of nice supercharged Studes! Nice guy too. [8D]

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/020avatar_river.jpg

mbstude
10-09-2006, 06:15 PM
You're right JP. The R3 I rode in was originally a R1, but it had a R3 installed years ago. The engine is documented to come straight fomr the Paxton building.
The R4 is that super-nice clone (originally an R1) that belongs to NG'er Michael Float. The engine is built to R4 specs. ;) He has a LOT of nice supercharged Studes! Nice guy too. [8D]

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/020avatar_river.jpg

JDP
10-09-2006, 06:48 PM
I wonder if Mike has the real R4 heads, 12-1 compression has got to be tough with todays gas. I passed on a set for $500 in the 60's because of the ratio, more like 10K today.

http://stude.com/sig.jpg
Studebaker On The Net
http://stude.com
Studebaker News Group
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.autos.studebaker
Arnold Md.
64 Daytona HT
63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk
63 GT Hawk
63 Avanti R1/AC
63 Avanti R2 (Sold)
63 Daytona HT
63 Lark 2 dr.
62 Lark 2 door
60 Lark convert
60 Hawk
59 3E Truck
57 Silver Hawk
53 Starliner
51 Commander

JDP
10-09-2006, 06:48 PM
I wonder if Mike has the real R4 heads, 12-1 compression has got to be tough with todays gas. I passed on a set for $500 in the 60's because of the ratio, more like 10K today.

http://stude.com/sig.jpg
Studebaker On The Net
http://stude.com
Studebaker News Group
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.autos.studebaker
Arnold Md.
64 Daytona HT
63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk
63 GT Hawk
63 Avanti R1/AC
63 Avanti R2 (Sold)
63 Daytona HT
63 Lark 2 dr.
62 Lark 2 door
60 Lark convert
60 Hawk
59 3E Truck
57 Silver Hawk
53 Starliner
51 Commander

mbstude
10-09-2006, 07:27 PM
I wouldn't doubt it a bit if he did JP. You could always email and ask...

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/020avatar_river.jpg

mbstude
10-09-2006, 07:27 PM
I wouldn't doubt it a bit if he did JP. You could always email and ask...

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/020avatar_river.jpg