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LostYouth
10-06-2006, 04:22 PM
Finally stepped up after just looking on e-Bay for several years. Just picked up from trasport and drove home a 62 Hawk GT I bought from a "classics" dealer in St. Louis, but from an original e-Bay ad.
Had a 53 commander, 55 coupe and a 63 Lark in my formative years, and always longed for the GT I could never afford (probably learn I can not afford this one either).
Am sure that I am in for an education. First basic question is fuel. Any tips - is it ok to burn unleaded regular (has original 289 and says 38k miles (wink, wink) but runs fairly well.
Second question is keys - is ignition key also to open truck? I supect not, meaning I have a key hunt to solve that issue.
Anyway,would appreciate any general advice for a new GT owner. Some of you are thinking "wish I knew he was out there so I could have picked him off! Anyway let the fun begin.
LostYouth

Scott
10-06-2006, 04:28 PM
Plain old unleaded is fine for normal driving. The ignition key will not work in the trunk lock. It's an entirely different key blank.

I also have a 1962 Hawk with the automatic transmission. Good luck with yours!

Scott
10-06-2006, 04:28 PM
Plain old unleaded is fine for normal driving. The ignition key will not work in the trunk lock. It's an entirely different key blank.

I also have a 1962 Hawk with the automatic transmission. Good luck with yours!

mbstude
10-06-2006, 04:28 PM
Congrats on your purchase! My grandma has a '63 GT Hawk, and loves it. We're gonna redo it after my Daytona. They really are great cars! Great drivers and good performers too.


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mbstude
10-06-2006, 04:28 PM
Congrats on your purchase! My grandma has a '63 GT Hawk, and loves it. We're gonna redo it after my Daytona. They really are great cars! Great drivers and good performers too.


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N8N
10-06-2006, 04:32 PM
quote:First basic question is fuel. Any tips - is it ok to burn unleaded regular (has original 289 and says 38k miles (wink, wink) but runs fairly well.

Yes - but a qualified yes. Pull a spark plug and look at the piston top. If it's dished, then it's a standard 289 and you can run regular fuel. If it's flat - then you have an R-motor, and you need to post the head casting numbers. If it's an R1 then you have to feed it the good stuff. If an R2 missing the blower (I assume it is unblown as you did not mention a big orange whirly thing) then regular gas is also OK. Other tipoffs to the engine being an R-series engine would be the presence of a JT or R engine number for an R1, or JTS or RS for an R2. All R-motors would have chrome valve covers and a big breather pipe coming out the side of the oil pan, and also a modern appearing harmonic balancer instead of the usual flywheel-on-rubber damper behind the pulleys. But I would check the pistons to make sure because who knows what's happened inside an engine of this age.


quote:Second question is keys - is ignition key also to open truck? I supect not, meaning I have a key hunt to solve that issue.

nope; trunk and glovebox are a separate key. Easiest solution would be to take the glovebox lock to a locksmith and have him make a key for it. You can practically open the trunk with any key blank that fits in, however. (good thing Studepeople are generally trustworthy!) Alternately you could order your build sheet and get the key codes from there.

good luck and congrats on the new toy,

nate

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N8N
10-06-2006, 04:32 PM
quote:First basic question is fuel. Any tips - is it ok to burn unleaded regular (has original 289 and says 38k miles (wink, wink) but runs fairly well.

Yes - but a qualified yes. Pull a spark plug and look at the piston top. If it's dished, then it's a standard 289 and you can run regular fuel. If it's flat - then you have an R-motor, and you need to post the head casting numbers. If it's an R1 then you have to feed it the good stuff. If an R2 missing the blower (I assume it is unblown as you did not mention a big orange whirly thing) then regular gas is also OK. Other tipoffs to the engine being an R-series engine would be the presence of a JT or R engine number for an R1, or JTS or RS for an R2. All R-motors would have chrome valve covers and a big breather pipe coming out the side of the oil pan, and also a modern appearing harmonic balancer instead of the usual flywheel-on-rubber damper behind the pulleys. But I would check the pistons to make sure because who knows what's happened inside an engine of this age.


quote:Second question is keys - is ignition key also to open truck? I supect not, meaning I have a key hunt to solve that issue.

nope; trunk and glovebox are a separate key. Easiest solution would be to take the glovebox lock to a locksmith and have him make a key for it. You can practically open the trunk with any key blank that fits in, however. (good thing Studepeople are generally trustworthy!) Alternately you could order your build sheet and get the key codes from there.

good luck and congrats on the new toy,

nate

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mbstude
10-06-2006, 04:34 PM
Nate, you do know that an R engine wasn't available in '62... [:o)]


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mbstude
10-06-2006, 04:34 PM
Nate, you do know that an R engine wasn't available in '62... [:o)]


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N8N
10-06-2006, 05:43 PM
you're right, Matthew, I just saw "GT Hawk" and didn't read too close. So if it really is the original engine there's zippy chance it's an R-motor unless it was rebuilt to R spec.

I've been hanging out with JP too much, about 50% of the GT's I've seen have R-motors :)

nate

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N8N
10-06-2006, 05:43 PM
you're right, Matthew, I just saw "GT Hawk" and didn't read too close. So if it really is the original engine there's zippy chance it's an R-motor unless it was rebuilt to R spec.

I've been hanging out with JP too much, about 50% of the GT's I've seen have R-motors :)

nate

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mbstude
10-06-2006, 05:46 PM
quote:I've been hanging out with JP too much, about 50% of the GT's I've seen have R-motors :)



You could't possibly be complaing... [:p] One of my dream cars is a '64 GT with an R4 and 4 speed... (Dream car, mind you. ;))


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mbstude
10-06-2006, 05:46 PM
quote:I've been hanging out with JP too much, about 50% of the GT's I've seen have R-motors :)



You could't possibly be complaing... [:p] One of my dream cars is a '64 GT with an R4 and 4 speed... (Dream car, mind you. ;))


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N8N
10-06-2006, 05:58 PM
Complain, heck, I've joined the R-motor party! Love that idle, and the extra grunt is not unappreciated either.

nate

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N8N
10-06-2006, 05:58 PM
Complain, heck, I've joined the R-motor party! Love that idle, and the extra grunt is not unappreciated either.

nate

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JDP
10-06-2006, 06:03 PM
N8, I have another R series engine coming and here's the truck you can install it in.:)


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63 GT Hawk
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63 Avanti R2 (Sold)
63 Daytona HT
63 Lark 2 dr.
62 Lark 2 door
60 Lark convert
60 Hawk
57 Silver Hawk
53 Starliner
51 Commander

JDP
10-06-2006, 06:03 PM
N8, I have another R series engine coming and here's the truck you can install it in.:)


quote:http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=190035468835

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63 GT Hawk
63 Avanti R1/AC
63 Avanti R2 (Sold)
63 Daytona HT
63 Lark 2 dr.
62 Lark 2 door
60 Lark convert
60 Hawk
57 Silver Hawk
53 Starliner
51 Commander

mbstude
10-06-2006, 06:09 PM
Geez JP. Your inventory just leeps getting longer and longer! What are your plans for this one? I think Gary Hearn was interested in this one. ;)

And Nate, I too hope to join the elusive "R" club someday! Whatever Stude it may be, it will be blown and have a BW 4 speed. I can hear that whinin' T-10 and whistlin' MC blower now... :D


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mbstude
10-06-2006, 06:09 PM
Geez JP. Your inventory just leeps getting longer and longer! What are your plans for this one? I think Gary Hearn was interested in this one. ;)

And Nate, I too hope to join the elusive "R" club someday! Whatever Stude it may be, it will be blown and have a BW 4 speed. I can hear that whinin' T-10 and whistlin' MC blower now... :D


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Guido
10-06-2006, 06:24 PM
quote:Originally posted by JDP

N8, I have another R series engine coming and here's the truck you can install it in.:)
John,

I saw you won the bidding on the truck. Given the short time period to get it moved and no hauler in hand, I didn't bid. I was interested in some of the extra parts, let me know what happens with it.

Gary

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Studebaker horse drawn buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R16A grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures".

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Guido
10-06-2006, 06:24 PM
quote:Originally posted by JDP

N8, I have another R series engine coming and here's the truck you can install it in.:)
John,

I saw you won the bidding on the truck. Given the short time period to get it moved and no hauler in hand, I didn't bid. I was interested in some of the extra parts, let me know what happens with it.

Gary

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Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R16A grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures".

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

N8N
10-06-2006, 06:43 PM
JP, you are well and truly killing me.

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N8N
10-06-2006, 06:43 PM
JP, you are well and truly killing me.

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mbstude
10-06-2006, 06:45 PM
He's the envy of us all Nate... [}:)]


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mbstude
10-06-2006, 06:45 PM
He's the envy of us all Nate... [}:)]


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rockne10
10-06-2006, 08:56 PM
Ignition key operates door lock; glovebox key operates trunk.

rockne10
10-06-2006, 08:56 PM
Ignition key operates door lock; glovebox key operates trunk.

JDP
10-06-2006, 09:04 PM
I passed the truck on to my midwest dealer in Fort Wayne, I owe him a few favors. Any parts he does not need will be available, maybe at Reedsville.

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64 Daytona HT
63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk
63 GT Hawk
63 Avanti R1/AC
63 Avanti R2 (Sold)
63 Daytona HT
63 Lark 2 dr.
62 Lark 2 door
60 Lark convert
60 Hawk
57 Silver Hawk
53 Starliner
51 Commander

JDP
10-06-2006, 09:04 PM
I passed the truck on to my midwest dealer in Fort Wayne, I owe him a few favors. Any parts he does not need will be available, maybe at Reedsville.

http://stude.com/sig.jpg
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Arnold Md.
64 Daytona HT
63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk
63 GT Hawk
63 Avanti R1/AC
63 Avanti R2 (Sold)
63 Daytona HT
63 Lark 2 dr.
62 Lark 2 door
60 Lark convert
60 Hawk
57 Silver Hawk
53 Starliner
51 Commander

mbstude
10-06-2006, 09:11 PM
Wow JP, you sound like a high rollin' money-makin' salesman fo-shur! With all your dealers here and there all across the country... :D;)


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mbstude
10-06-2006, 09:11 PM
Wow JP, you sound like a high rollin' money-makin' salesman fo-shur! With all your dealers here and there all across the country... :D;)


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JDP
10-06-2006, 09:16 PM
My dealers are just friends that work with me, sometimes I'm the dealer, for them too.:)

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Arnold Md.
64 Daytona HT
63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk
63 GT Hawk
63 Avanti R1/AC
63 Avanti R2 (Sold)
63 Daytona HT
63 Lark 2 dr.
62 Lark 2 door
60 Lark convert
60 Hawk
57 Silver Hawk
53 Starliner
51 Commander

JDP
10-06-2006, 09:16 PM
My dealers are just friends that work with me, sometimes I'm the dealer, for them too.:)

http://stude.com/sig.jpg
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http://stude.com
Studebaker News Group
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Arnold Md.
64 Daytona HT
63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk
63 GT Hawk
63 Avanti R1/AC
63 Avanti R2 (Sold)
63 Daytona HT
63 Lark 2 dr.
62 Lark 2 door
60 Lark convert
60 Hawk
57 Silver Hawk
53 Starliner
51 Commander

mbstude
10-06-2006, 09:25 PM
I know JP, I've been on the World of Studebakers on the Net long enough to basically figure out how you operate your business. ;)


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mbstude
10-06-2006, 09:25 PM
I know JP, I've been on the World of Studebakers on the Net long enough to basically figure out how you operate your business. ;)


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studeclunker
10-06-2006, 10:57 PM
Just the kind of truck I'm wishin' for. Too broke to do anything but wishin' and dreamin'.

Congrats John! It's a beaut!

Congrats to you too Youth! That '62 GT is a beautiful car. I'm sure you'll have nothing but grins from it.
By the by, how about posting a pic?

Lotsa Larks!
K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
Ron Smith

studeclunker
10-06-2006, 10:57 PM
Just the kind of truck I'm wishin' for. Too broke to do anything but wishin' and dreamin'.

Congrats John! It's a beaut!

Congrats to you too Youth! That '62 GT is a beautiful car. I'm sure you'll have nothing but grins from it.
By the by, how about posting a pic?

Lotsa Larks!
K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
Ron Smith

Dwain G.
10-06-2006, 10:59 PM
While a trunk key will always open the glove box, it doesn't always work the other way because some glovebox locks only have 3 of the 5 tumblers installed.

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Dwain G.
10-06-2006, 10:59 PM
While a trunk key will always open the glove box, it doesn't always work the other way because some glovebox locks only have 3 of the 5 tumblers installed.

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Dwain G.