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    Allan Songer's R1 is alive and well in MOTOWN.

    Re; Allan's comment in the thread about R1 engines and today's fuel. He said quote ..I built a 299 cu in R1 motor with flat tops and small chamber heads back in the early 90's and ran it pretty hard on 92 octane unleaded pump gas. I'm pretty sure the motor is still together and still running hard up in Michigan somewhere. I guess he doesn't believe me, the current owner of his Blue Mist Super Lark clone. So can I get some witnesses to tell him that his engine is still running. Bob Palma, Ted Harbit, Gorge Krem, Gary Sanders have all seen it. Allan built our engine super strong. Hopefully he will share the details with the forum. Thanks, Huck (actually 3 blocks out of Detroit)


    Gary Hildebrandt
    Gary Hildebrandt
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    Hi
    This car does exist as matter of fact I seen it this fall at a cruise night at Sears in Lincoln Park Mich IRONICALLY 1 block away from the garage where my rough but genuine 63 R1 Lark Custom is being stored !!!!!!!!!!!! 2 Super Larks in less than 1 city block

    Jerry Sarkozi

    59 Lark VI Hardtop
    60 Lark VIII Hardtop
    63 Lark Custom 2D R1 4speed
    51 3/4 Ton truck 9 foot bed
    57 Transtar 1 ton 5Sp/od
    62 Transtar 289 1 Ton
    64 wagon
    57 Silver Hawk {soon}future Bonneville car 200 mph

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    • #3
      Hi
      This car does exist as matter of fact I seen it this fall at a cruise night at Sears in Lincoln Park Mich IRONICALLY 1 block away from the garage where my rough but genuine 63 R1 Lark Custom is being stored !!!!!!!!!!!! 2 Super Larks in less than 1 city block

      Jerry Sarkozi

      59 Lark VI Hardtop
      60 Lark VIII Hardtop
      63 Lark Custom 2D R1 4speed
      51 3/4 Ton truck 9 foot bed
      57 Transtar 1 ton 5Sp/od
      62 Transtar 289 1 Ton
      64 wagon
      57 Silver Hawk {soon}future Bonneville car 200 mph

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      • #4
        quote:Originally posted by Huck

        Re; Allan's comment in the thread about R1 engines and today's fuel. He said quote ..I built a 299 cu in R1 motor with flat tops and small chamber heads back in the early 90's and ran it pretty hard on 92 octane unleaded pump gas. I'm pretty sure the motor is still together and still running hard up in Michigan somewhere. I guess he doesn't believe me, the current owner of his Blue Mist Super Lark clone. So can I get some witnesses to tell him that his engine is still running. Bob Palma, Ted Harbit, Gorge Krem, Gary Sanders have all seen it. Allan built our engine super strong. Hopefully he will share the details with the forum. Thanks, Huck (actually 3 blocks out of Detroit)


        Gary Hildebrandt
        It was 14-15 years ago, but this is what I remember off hand:

        Castillo nitrided crank. Polished, shot peened and resized rods.
        All new rod and main fasteners. Fully balanced. Align honed.

        I built it like I used to build Lotus Twin-Cams that would rev to 7500.

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        • #5
          quote:Originally posted by Huck

          Re; Allan's comment in the thread about R1 engines and today's fuel. He said quote ..I built a 299 cu in R1 motor with flat tops and small chamber heads back in the early 90's and ran it pretty hard on 92 octane unleaded pump gas. I'm pretty sure the motor is still together and still running hard up in Michigan somewhere. I guess he doesn't believe me, the current owner of his Blue Mist Super Lark clone. So can I get some witnesses to tell him that his engine is still running. Bob Palma, Ted Harbit, Gorge Krem, Gary Sanders have all seen it. Allan built our engine super strong. Hopefully he will share the details with the forum. Thanks, Huck (actually 3 blocks out of Detroit)


          Gary Hildebrandt
          It was 14-15 years ago, but this is what I remember off hand:

          Castillo nitrided crank. Polished, shot peened and resized rods.
          All new rod and main fasteners. Fully balanced. Align honed.

          I built it like I used to build Lotus Twin-Cams that would rev to 7500.

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          • #6
            Thank you Jerry and Allan. Allan you really made the car pretty too. I get so many compliments on it. Everyone, from kids to little old ladies, likes the car. A few years ago I was on Detroit's Belle Isle,for a wedding reception. Got to transport my Nephew and his new bride. Anyway it was a warm Summer evening and tough kids in their old school Chevys, with big rims, rule the night. They too, respected my Stude. So Jerry, you must be the guy that my friend Toby knows from the Eagles Club. Look for us in the Spring. Unlike Allan, we must wait for the road salt to wash away. At least I have a nice CA car. Thank you Mr. Songer. Peace, Huck PS When is your wife's truck going to be in Turning Wheels??

            Gary Hildebrandt
            Gary Hildebrandt

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            • #7
              Thank you Jerry and Allan. Allan you really made the car pretty too. I get so many compliments on it. Everyone, from kids to little old ladies, likes the car. A few years ago I was on Detroit's Belle Isle,for a wedding reception. Got to transport my Nephew and his new bride. Anyway it was a warm Summer evening and tough kids in their old school Chevys, with big rims, rule the night. They too, respected my Stude. So Jerry, you must be the guy that my friend Toby knows from the Eagles Club. Look for us in the Spring. Unlike Allan, we must wait for the road salt to wash away. At least I have a nice CA car. Thank you Mr. Songer. Peace, Huck PS When is your wife's truck going to be in Turning Wheels??

              Gary Hildebrandt
              Gary Hildebrandt

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              • #8
                Gary
                Im located in Allen Park email me maybe we can get together I have a bunch of Studes and parts,I dont recall anyone I know named Toby off hand but a lot of people know me. Ive been building cars around here for a long time most people know my house by either the Studebakers or the hot rods in my driveway
                Jerry

                59 Lark VI Hardtop
                60 Lark VIII Hardtop
                63 Lark Custom 2D R1 4speed
                51 3/4 Ton truck 9 foot bed
                57 Transtar 1 ton 5Sp/od
                62 Transtar 289 1 Ton
                64 wagon
                57 Silver Hawk {soon}future Bonneville car 200 mph

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                • #9
                  Gary
                  Im located in Allen Park email me maybe we can get together I have a bunch of Studes and parts,I dont recall anyone I know named Toby off hand but a lot of people know me. Ive been building cars around here for a long time most people know my house by either the Studebakers or the hot rods in my driveway
                  Jerry

                  59 Lark VI Hardtop
                  60 Lark VIII Hardtop
                  63 Lark Custom 2D R1 4speed
                  51 3/4 Ton truck 9 foot bed
                  57 Transtar 1 ton 5Sp/od
                  62 Transtar 289 1 Ton
                  64 wagon
                  57 Silver Hawk {soon}future Bonneville car 200 mph

                  Comment

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