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  • Fuel System: 54 Commander gas mileage

    232, stromberg carb, auto trans DG 200. Looks like I am getting about 11 MPG. Is that pretty typical for a starliner 54?
    This car have no power

    Ignition = Ok with Pertronix
    Main jet = 0,57 (sparks colour, just light brown)
    because normal main jet are 0,49 not enough fuel, I was shaking while driving, even top speed 72 miles/h, sparks colour were white, and 12 MPG.
    Brake is ok, she rolls freely
    I checked this afternoon the timing camshaft = ok

    GT Hawk 62 V8
    Lark 62 hardtop skytop 6 cyl
    Silver Hawk 57 Hardtop 6 cyl
    Transtar 57 V8
    Starliner 54 V8

  • #2
    You seem to have good skills and basic understanding, but something is definitely not as it should be. A '54 Commander should get at least 16 MPG on the highway and run at least 90 MPH.

    Have you done a compression test?

    Confirmed at least 30 degrees full centrifugal advance
    Confirmed at least 12 degrees vacuum advance?

    jack vines
    PackardV8

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    • #3
      Originally posted by PackardV8 View Post
      A '54 Commander should get at least 16 MPG on the highway and run at least 90 MPH.
      At 90mph, 16 MPG would be about right. My '53 no longer houses its 232, but forty years ago when it did, I could get 22-23 MPG when I wasn't driving like a maniac. And that was with the DG200 and 3.54 rear. And you should be able to achieve 72mph just with second gear.
      Brad Johnson,
      SDC since 1975, ASC since 1990
      Pine Grove Mills, Pa.
      '33 Rockne 10, '51 Commander Starlight. '53 Commander Starlight
      '56 Sky Hawk in process

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      • #4
        Thanks PackardV8.
        Full ignition timing advance is 45° at 2600 rpm.
        I must check the compression, it is an idea, but normally this engine was rebuild, i found the old piston ring set in the trunk.
        GT Hawk 62 V8
        Lark 62 hardtop skytop 6 cyl
        Silver Hawk 57 Hardtop 6 cyl
        Transtar 57 V8
        Starliner 54 V8

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        • #5
          45 BTDC sounds like too much advance to me. I would agree with the numbers Brad posted.
          My 1952 Land Cruiser with 232 and overdrive got 24 MPH on the highway when driving 60 to 65, and the car had plenty of power.

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          • #6
            With your help, i found the problem, at least one.
            It is the distribor, it is mad.
            (vaccum advance disconnected)
            At 550 rpm, advance perfect
            At 800 rpm, advance +6 (perfect)
            At idle speed, 550 rpm, advance +9
            I removed it, I cleaned it, same problem, i ordered parts for rebuild it.
            Thanks for your help
            GT Hawk 62 V8
            Lark 62 hardtop skytop 6 cyl
            Silver Hawk 57 Hardtop 6 cyl
            Transtar 57 V8
            Starliner 54 V8

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            • #7
              Interesting find. Were the Mechanical advance springs missing or stretched, the weights worn and jammed or loose?

              The distributor should be a normally dependable, early Delco Remy used in most GM Cars, not a later type Delco Window Dist. that was way less quality and durability.

              Sounds more like someone installed a Prestolite Dist. from a '62 to '64 V8.
              StudeRich
              Second Generation Stude Driver,
              Proud '54 Starliner Owner
              SDC Member Since 1967

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              • #8
                .057 jets seem pretty big for a 232 Stromberg. Certainly running rich will effect mileage and won't really produce more power.
                American iron, real old school
                With two tone paint, it sure is cool

                Its got 8 cylinders and uses them all
                With an overdrive that just won't stall

                With a 4 barrel carb and dual exhausts
                With 4.23 gears it can really get lost

                Its got safety belts and I ain't scared
                The brakes are good and the tires are fair.

                Tried to sell her, but got no taker
                I"ll just keep driving my Studebaker

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                • #9
                  It is the original Delco Remy on, 64 years ago and 140 000 miles
                  I ordered
                  Camshaft and cam
                  Weights and 2 springs
                  I will compare wear with new parts, in two weeks.
                  GT Hawk 62 V8
                  Lark 62 hardtop skytop 6 cyl
                  Silver Hawk 57 Hardtop 6 cyl
                  Transtar 57 V8
                  Starliner 54 V8

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