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    what can you tell me about my new Avanti

    Hi,

    I just bought a 1963 Avanti. I was wondering if someone here could look at some of the clues and tell me what if anything is either special or SOP for Studebaker. I am unsure, and inexperienced with Studebakers in general or Avantis in particular.

    the body number is RQ 3482, the frame stamped plate says R-4410, the engine stamped number is RS2426, it has the supercharger and connects to the top of the single 4bbl carburetor, engine casting is 1554641, intake casting is 1557144. the rear end has a tag 45C.

    this is all I have gathered so far if there is anything else I can get let me know and I will go and check. Thanx in advance fo all the help.
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    Did the previous owner obtain a build sheet for this car? They are available from the Studebaker National Museum in SouthBend or from Dan Booth at Nostalgic Motors in Wixom Michigan. Have you joined the Avanti Owners Association International aka AOAI , they offer a quarterly magazine Avanti Magazine which is only about the Avanti with tech articles, and information from owners here and around the world. Welcome to the World of Avanti. There is a local chapter of AOAI in Florida Email Tom Pinnel at tom.pinnel@yahoo.com Lou Cote pres. Club Avanti NorthWest

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    This appears to be a fairly late 1963 R2 Supercharged Avanti probably with all original matching numbers from the way South Bend built it, but nothing "Special" about it that I can see.

    Did the owner say there was something special about it, like maybe formally owned by a Celebrity?
    The Production Order will tell you where it was shipped, optional accessories and if all of the above numbers are original, etc.

    The Serial Number of this Car that SHOULD be on the Title as the "VIN" Number is the one you got from the Frame: R-4410.

    So this is a Round Headlight Car with the Power Shift Automatic or the 4 Speed Manual Trans.?
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    More pics please. Does it run and drive? Get a factory operations/repair manual for it. The manual is invaluable. I think you can get one from Studebaker International, or look on Ebay. Congratulations!
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    Quote Originally Posted by StudeRich View Post
    This appears to be a fairly late 1963 R2 Supercharged Avanti probably with all original matching numbers from the way South Bend built it, but nothing "Special" about it that I can see.

    Did the owner say there was something special about it, like maybe formally owned by a Celebrity?
    The Production Order will tell you where it was shipped, optional accessories and if all of the above numbers are original, etc.

    The Serial Number of this Car that SHOULD be on the Title as the "VIN" Number is the one you got from the Frame: R-4410.

    So this is a Round Headlight Car with the Power Shift Automatic or the 4 Speed Manual Trans.?
    round headlight automatic. I will see if the previous owner had the build sheet, if not I was going to order one.
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    Just at a glance, the master cylinder and booster have been replaced with what appears to be an aftermarket dual system. Not necessarily a bad thing, if done properly.
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    yes replaced, I have the originals in the trunk

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    It's missing much of the radio frequency interference shielding unless you have it separate as well.
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    thanx I will put that on the list to ask, I saw the ribbed black part but not so much the shiny covers.

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    As for shiny chrome, it appears that the valve covers and the carb bonnet are painted and they should be "shiny". Possibly the valley cover is painted also, but hard to see. More pics of the entire car would be helpful. I'm about an hour north of you and I restored my brothers '63 a few years back. If you need any info, I'm always willing to share my experiences. Bill

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    I am 30 - 45 minutes away. Let me know if you want any help. I also have quite a supply of extra parts should you need them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1963R4 View Post
    Hi,

    I just bought a 1963 Avanti. I was wondering if someone here could look at some of the clues and tell me what if anything is either special or SOP for Studebaker. I am unsure, and inexperienced with Studebakers in general or Avantis in particular.

    the body number is RQ 3482, the frame stamped plate says R-4410, the engine stamped number is RS2426, it has the supercharger and connects to the top of the single 4bbl carburetor, engine casting is 1554641, intake casting is 1557144. the rear end has a tag 45C.

    this is all I have gathered so far if there is anything else I can get let me know and I will go and check. Thanx in advance fo all the help.
    The most important thing that nobody told you about your Avanti is that it is a proverbial money pit into which you will spend all your money and never see any of it again. I tell you this in all sincerity, because I own a 64 R-2 that I wouldn't trade my old lady for and she's cheaper to keep!
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    Mine is R4415. R1.

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    The aftermarket booster, and master cylinder can be good or bad. If it works well great-sourcing a replacement may be problematic unless the source and what it was made for are known. The Shielding is available from vendors, but not inexpensive, you will also need the drivers side ignition wire "frame" and rubber insulator. The Valve covers should be chrome-not painted as should the carb "hat" Again they are available, but not a requirement to enjoy it-except your radio may not like it that way. Good luck and enjoy it, as said, it will slowly drain your wallet, but you won't care.

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    looks like the rubber/steel wire track and the ignition chrome covers are in the box of parts, pass side is missing but the PO may still have it. Im going tomorrow for the paperwork and the rear seat so I will ask. most everything else seems to be accounted for. I promise some more and "focused" pictures soon

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    Good luck!.....Avantis are cool!...Certainly the 'most' desired of all the 'sixties' Studebakers!

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    got some info from the museum. looks like the frame body and engine match. is there anything else useful here? At least I can get keys for it now, I hope anyway.
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    Do you not have the original Ignition and Doors Key or the Glove box and Console Key?
    Those Key Numbers on the PO are not Magic, not many people can decode them.

    These numbers have to be decoded by a Locksmith who still HAS the 1964 or older Studebaker Lock Code Chart to find the proper Tumbler Numbers in the lock to make Keys.
    A Member here MAY have that list, after this many years there are few left.

    New Studebaker LOGO key Blanks are available at Studebaker Vendors but it takes a working Key to duplicate for this method to work.

    http://studebakervendors.com

    The PO looks like the Majority of R2 Power Shift Cars do, nothing unusual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StudeRich View Post
    Do you not have the original Ignition and Doors Key or the Glove box and Console Key?
    Those Key Numbers on the PO are not Magic, not many people can decode them.

    These numbers have to be decoded by a Locksmith who still HAS the 1964 or older Studebaker Lock Code Chart to find the proper Tumbler Numbers in the lock to make Keys.
    A Member here MAY have that list, after this many years there are few left.

    New Studebaker LOGO key Blanks are available at Studebaker Vendors but it takes a working Key to duplicate for this method to work.

    http://studebakervendors.com

    The PO looks like the Majority of R2 Power Shift Cars do, nothing unusual.
    An Elk Vinyl Interior that would have Faun Trim (lighter Tan than the Elk).
    I did not get keys. I found a name in the interweb for someone who can make keys from the number. I got an email reply that he would check tonight so I am hopeful.

    Sadly I was sold I real story on the car, the facts don't seem to back it up. Live and learn. I'm going to work to get the gas drained and get the ole girl started and go from there. If I cant get keys Ill just hot wire the coil for now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1963R4 View Post
    I did not get keys. I found a name in the interweb for someone who can make keys from the number. I got an email reply that he would check tonight so I am hopeful.

    Sadly I was sold I real story on the car, the facts don't seem to back it up. Live and learn. I'm going to work to get the gas drained and get the ole girl started and go from there. If I cant get keys Ill just hot wire the coil for now.
    You can get a new ignition switch from SI with keys to avoid possible wire fry by hot wiring it-pretty cheap and "easy" to install too. Then you can pull the door handles and get a locksmith to make make them match the new key. Making a key to code may work for you, but, many of these ignition switches have gone bad over time and were replaced, I wouldn't bet on the locks still working with the key codes from the production order anymore. Good luck

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    I think the new ignition switch housings are a lot better than the brittle original ones. If you have the stock one in there (or even a replacement)... COVER THE STEEL BAR BEHIND THE SWITCH WITH SOMETHING NON CONDUCTIVE. There are many horror stories among Avanti owners about ignition switches dropping into that brace.

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    can you remove the tumbler without a key? Ignition? Door?

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