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    Nice looking '61, is it a four speeder?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SN-60 View Post
    Nice looking '61, is it a four speeder?
    I wish! Its an automatic, but still lots of fun.
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    On the road from St. Louis to New Hampshire
    Funny story, I wanted to drive it and Grandma had a fit. She was going to take the car back if I didn't trailer it!! You can see who won that battle.

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    Finally home!

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    Beautiful car! Glad it is staying in the family that makes it even more special. You will have years of enjoyment!!! BTW Love the flamingo color.

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    Mark beat me to it--I really love that color. That's a great looking car!
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    Hurray for grandma, she wanted you to enjoy that beautiful Hawk as long as you owned it.
    I think a man with a helmet defending his country should make more money than a man with a helmet defending a football.

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    That is a very nice Hawk. Never saw that color combo before.

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    Great Hawk! Hope you enjoy it, but from the smile on your face in every picture,it looks like you already are.
    Did not hear the story on this car, did I miss it?
    Was your Grandmas name Dorothy also???
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    'Looking good, Ross; very pretty. (Did your 1962 Pace Car mailer arrive?) BP

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    Nice car, it won't get lost in the parking lot! The car brings back memories both of the color and of the car. My first set of "hand-me-down" wheels from the parents was their 61 Hawk when I started driving in 1965. The had just gotten a 64 Impala 2 dr hardtop, black with black interior. The Hawk was white with a black stripe and black interior with buckets. Motor was a 289 2 barrel with the automatic. During the time I drove it, I went to the local junkyard and got a 4 barrel manifold, crab and air cleaner. I had some good times with the car until April 1966 when I got a 64 Black Avanti R1 with red and fawn interior and air. The color brought back memories of a 55 Commander 4 door sedan my parents had. The car was that color with a black top. I didn't know the color then, being raised on the farm, I called the color "Bloody milk red". That car became my older brother's " "hand-me-down" set of wheels when my parents bought the 61 Hawk ,until he bought a 60 Lark convertible, black with red interior.
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    I've always liked that color combination on Hawks. Nice ride.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BobPalma View Post
    'Looking good, Ross; very pretty. (Did your 1962 Pace Car mailer arrive?) BP
    Thanks BP! I love the mailer (it got here weeks ago, but I was out of town on business).
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    For the first time in more than 30 years, all the gauges in the dash work. The fuel gauge was broken, I bought a very nice restored one from Brent Hagen. And the Tach was missing the sending unit when I got the car, so I have put in a classics instruments Tach (Model HR60SLF) as a place holder until I get the stock one updated to modern electronics.
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    Say, that tachometer doesn't look bad at all for a generic tach, Ross. A close match to find off the shelf. BP

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    To: R-David,-----I agree with Bob, that tach looks pretty close. Looks like You may have installed the Stude outer bezel on it?

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    Nope, thats how it came from Classic Instruments. I too was surprised with how well the bezel matches up with the stock bezels of the other gauges.
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    The dash looks good, but 20 psi oil pressure at 1000 RPM cold doesn't seem like much.
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    To: R David,--- Well, I know of at least one sale Classic Instruments has made from this thread. A HR60SLF tach is now going into a Friend's '55 Speedster (12V conversion car)

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    If the numbering used on that tach were just a little larger, the odd passerby would never know it wasn't original. Even as-is, it looks very close. Maybe custom print a new face for that one and call it good.

    Beautiful car though. I'd LOVE to have that in my driveway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimC View Post
    If the numbering used on that tach were just a little larger, the odd passerby would never know it wasn't original. Even as-is, it looks very close. Maybe custom print a new face for that one and call it good.

    Beautiful car though. I'd LOVE to have that in my driveway.
    That may be a better option than getting the original refurbed. I will look into that.
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    Promised somebody I would post a couple of images of the trunk 'Studebaker' logo


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    The first time I saw a hawk painted that color I thought it must be a custom. My idea of the perfect color for a 61.
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    This is how I am spending my Saturday. My wife doesn't understand why I like to 'work' on the Studebaker so much. How could I ever explain how much of a sense of satisfaction it gives me. I spend all week in front of a computer at work. What could be better than being outside in the driveway listening to some classic rock and turning wrenches? It's like therapy really...
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    It's a little hard to see, but the old water pump impellers were too close to the body, the new one on the right is 1/16 further out. Let's hope it makes a difference!
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    Done! Dorothy is lubed, oil changed, new water pump, and a radiator flush. Now to my favorite part, putting away tools and cleaning up.

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    To: R- David,---- I believe listening to You is therapy for all of Us!

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    Quote Originally Posted by studegary View Post
    The dash looks good, but 20 psi oil pressure at 1000 RPM cold doesn't seem like much.
    It was actually warm already, I had a ground issue on my temp gauge that was making it very erratic (I think I fixed it now). As far as the oil pressure: I get 60 PSI when I first start the engine. Once it is warm I get 40 PSI at around 2,000 RPM and 20 PSI at idle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ddub View Post
    The first time I saw a hawk painted that color I thought it must be a custom. My idea of the perfect color for a 61.
    Thanks Don, I must say when I first got the car the paint color was the only thing I didn't like. Now that I have had it for three years I love it! Planning on getting it repainted the same color in two-three years (or sooner if I win the Lotto).
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    Quote Originally Posted by SN-60 View Post
    To: R- David,---- I believe listening to You is therapy for all of Us!
    You are too kind, thank you!
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    Road test complete. Drove around for 45 minutes, temperature never went above halfway. I guess the new water pump made a huge difference!

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    Before I replaced the water pump, the car would be relatively cool at idle, but on the highway at 65 mph it would heat up to around 210-220 (and sometimes hotter). With the new water pump it barely reached 180 degrees F (and I have a 170 degree thermostat) the whole time I was driving. Hopefully this info will help others. I guess the old water pump with improper clearance must have had some reduced flow at higher RPMs. Weird problem, my dad was betting that I had a cracked head. Thank god he was wrong!

    I also reduced my antifreeze mixture from 50/50 to about 30/60, I guess that could have helped also. I read in the shop manual that using more water in the mixture would help cooling.
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    The gauges look better now. Thanks for the explanation.
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    If your old water pump wasn't grumbling, making any weird noise or leaking.
    If it's not bad, you can use it by putting a gear puller on the impeller and pulling it out to the correct dimension.
    There is a good illustration and explanation on Bob Johnstones Tech Site that shows the dimension.
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    To: R David,----I just looked over the Classic Instraments Tach My Friend ordered for His Speedster. Really is a nicely made unit....and I was startled by the difference in weight between it and the old
    factory SW tach. Will solve the 'dead tach' problem nicely. Was wondering if a vinyl overlay of the original SW tach dial can be created that could actually be applied over the new tach's dial (after needle
    is removed) making this new unit look even more authentic? What do You think? Take care

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    Quote Originally Posted by SN-60 View Post
    To: R David,----I just looked over the Classic Instraments Tach My Friend ordered for His Speedster. Really is a nicely made unit....and I was startled by the difference in weight between it and the old
    factory SW tach. Will solve the 'dead tach' problem nicely. Was wondering if a vinyl overlay of the original SW tach dial can be created that could actually be applied over the new tach's dial (after needle
    is removed) making this new unit look even more authentic? What do You think? Take care
    I know that Jim McCuan does that kind of work, you can send him a private message and he will give you a quote. I am going to have him do mine eventually, but I don't feel a sense of urgency since it looks so good the way it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 55 56 PREZ 4D View Post
    If your old water pump wasn't grumbling, making any weird noise or leaking.
    If it's not bad, you can use it by putting a gear puller on the impeller and pulling it out to the correct dimension.
    There is a good illustration and explanation on Bob Johnstones Tech Site that shows the dimension.
    Thanks for the tip, I think I am going to do that! I can keep it around as my emergency spare.
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    Love the color. Nice looking Hawk.

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    R_David, I was just reading thru this complete thread and I saw your comment about not liking the color at first. How could you not like this color? It is awesome.

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