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    Australian Ute Photos

    There was some interest in Utes from members after the last lot of swap meet photos I put up a week or so ago, so here are a couple more.

    Here is a buddy's Holden Ute, with the optional Pontiac front clip.


    A Holden Crewman, twin cab ute. I bought one when they first came out in 2003, an absolute POS! Terrible fuel consumption for a 6 cyl, and the back seat was very uncomfortable with no leg room. They also had diff problems, and an issue with the rear wheel studs shearing off. I traded mine within 18 months.


    This is a mid '70's Holden 1 Tonner, tray back.


    A '73 Holden HQ Panelvan. Very popular with the surfers of the day.
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    Wasn't the HQ what Patrolman Rockatansky drove in "Mad Max"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by showbizkid View Post
    Wasn't the HQ what Patrolman Rockatansky drove in "Mad Max"?
    I don't think so: his unit was a ca. 1974 Ford Falcon, XC maybe?
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    I could see me in the Pontiac Ute!!!
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    No, I meant in the "family" parts, where he's on holiday with his wife and son just prior to the "event..." I'm pretty sure it's a butterscotch HQ.

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    Showbizkid,

    There is a photo here,
    http://www.aussiecoupes.com/mmvehicles.html

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    That's the HJ Sandman Panel Van.
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    The Holden Ute came darn close to making it over here. That is until the "brain trust" that got a hold of GM North America killed Pontiac. I even remember participating in a contest at the Pontiac website to name it for the U.S. Market. A big part of current GM's market share paralysis is that they abandoned Pontiac. You can't tell me dropping a brand with a top ten selling model (G6) did anything good for their volume. You can see the heritage of the Pontiac G8 sedan clearly in the Holden Ute above.

    Dropping Pontiac was a direct shot by those who control GM at the future of performance cars. Just one more reason I'm cutting up my GM card and will never own another new GM.

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    Yes young Rockatanski and family did have a Holden Sandman prior to him becoming "MAD". Then he switched to a XB GT coupe ( Interceptor ) to reek his revenge.
    Love those films and if we are lucky there is another instalment on the way.
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    Say, those are cute!

    'Can't help but wonder why they didn't pursue a market here, especially since Ford was abandoning the Ranger, another inexplainably stupid move. I would think the Pontiac Ute could have picked up some of the Ranger sales Ford voluntarily gave back to the Japanese. BP

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    the reason why

    Quote Originally Posted by BobPalma View Post
    Say, those are cute!

    'Can't help but wonder why they didn't pursue a market here, especially since Ford was abandoning the Ranger, another inexplainably stupid move. I would think the Pontiac Ute could have picked up some of the Ranger sales Ford voluntarily gave back to the Japanese. BP
    I read that Holden and Ford agreed that their UTEs would sell in North America, but to make it available to every dealer and a national push would have been impossible because of the labor pool and "stealing" employees from each other to satisfy a market they could not supply. It was mentioned why they didn't just build them in the US, it was also partly due to new tooling costs (more tooling) and DOT regulations. Think of the Subaru Brat...the reason it had seats in the back was because that made it a car, not a truck. And back in 63 Johnson backed GM-Ford-Chrysler to block the import of the VW truck that looked like the Corvair, Ford and Dodge A-100 trucks. VW out sold them....that is also why the Chevy LUV was imported as a cab and chassis, with the truck bed built, painted and installed here. Again that is why the paint didn't match on them. The Regulation is still on the books. The New Mercedes/Dodge van and new euro ford van are all shipped here with full interiors so they are taxed as passenger vehicles, when they arrive here, they are stripped and the parts are shredded. Cheaper that way than paying the TRUCK import tax.

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    That Holden Ute with the Pontiac front clip really is a nice looking vehicle!

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    The Pontiac/Holden Ute WAS a definite go for the Pontiac Division. It was coming for sure, I think as a 2011 model, until the bloodbath of 2009 wiped out Pontiac. People were warned it was going to be pricey. And, it was likely to be offered only with a V8. Kind of like the Chevy SSR, but not quite that high. There was also talk after Pontiac's Death about rebadging the G8 as a Chevy Caprice, and still bringing the Ute over, but that never materialized as GM's focus went to other more "socially responsible" models. As with the 1967 Studebakers, we'll never know now how even a limited number of Utes would have been received.

    I know pundits said the Ute would only have a big market the first year as buyers who were waiting for such a thing would step up first. Executives and even the father of the idea, Bob Lutz, wondered about the staying power of a Ute long term. I agree that the Ute is sharp. Pontiac had the best styling in the industry before it's untimely demise. The G6 Coupes and Convertibles will become collectables, along with the Hot G8. It looks like Holden felt the same way about that I do. But, the G8 and Ute are really Holdens, not Pontiacs.
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    Another quick note on small trucks of all kinds. They've simply stopped selling. For the price differential, and even the now small mileage differential, buyers are voting with their feet and buying full size 1/2 ton versions.

    Why? My 2009 Colorado Crew Cab 4x4 listed for only about $2000 less than a comparable full size half ton. The Ranger had a big price advantage over the Colorado, but it was still pretty much a 1980's model technology wise, and the number being sold did not justify an update. The 22-23 mpg average in my Colorado is only a mile or two better than a 1/2 ton. F150 Ecoboosts get 20+ mpg average now. Having a small garage was getting to be the only reason to buy a small truck. The savings you would think were there just aren't there.

    Colorado/Canyon, Toyota and Nissan/Suzuki (same truck) will be your only choices next year for a midsize or small truck. Colorado/Canyon will lose it's dedicated plant at model change (Shreveport) and be built on the same lines as the 1/2 tons. Small and Midsize trucks are on life support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 556063 View Post
    There was also talk after Pontiac's Death about rebadging the G8 as a Chevy Caprice, and still bringing the Ute over, but that never materialized as GM's focus went to other more "socially responsible" models.
    I guess I'd change "socially responsible" to "vehicles that would actually sell" (and they did!). If they also happen to be socially responsible, then all the better.
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    Here's hoping a Ute or two will show up at the International meet. (I'm dreaming again!!)
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    Lies, damned lies, and statistics? Everything looked fine until I went shopping for the Volvo and Saab trucks listed there...
    and OMG, Maybach sales are through the roof!

    Hard to tell from the presentation which SUV-like contrivances are listed as crossover cars, and which as light trucks.
    Wouldn't it be handy to have vans and pick-ups broken out? I hate when they do that.

    In defense of the suddenly-unpopular "small" truck: I use a GMC 3500, one ton with a dump box. When I was shopping, it took a special order to get a traditional one-bench cab on a conventional pick-up. Everything had a club or crew cab, with an extended wheelbase to match. As a result, my 'big commercial' rig parks, and navigates parking lots, better than most pick-ups around these parts. And even though the bed is way up off the ground, it's no harder to toss things in than to deal with the new F-150. Were I loading by hand into a pick-up bed every day (like the Manly Men in all the ads -- it's always feed sacks, ain't it?), I'd never stand for that. 'Course, mine unloads itself.

    For the longest time, I thought the mini-trucks were a joke. Some of them turned out to be long lasting and useful. But a real F-100 size, one bench seat, half-ton, with a usable cargo bed, has to be a market worth serving. You can't run a whole economy on appearance packages.

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    Unfortunatelly, If GM keeps bleeding market share the way they have been the past couple years, Ford may knock them out of the #1 spot in North America soon. And, Toyota could fight with them for #2 on a regular basis. Its never been this close in my lifetime. In NORTH AMERICAN sales, five or so years ago, GM used to blow Ford away by 500,000 total units a month. The only reason GM got to 20% share in 2011 was the Japanese Earthquake. Same goes for their 2011 Worldwide Production Crown. 2012 numbers will be very interesting.

    Weakening of the dealer network? Elimination of divisions? Product mix? Either way, since they are back listed on the NYSE, someone is having to answer the question as to why GM's market share is on such a downward trend.

    The Ute would have been a "halo" vehicle used to build interest in lesser models. Since those lesser models are no longer offered, the Ute didn't make it.

    At 17%, GM's current market share is close to where Chrysler Corporation's was in 1998.

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