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    updating auto tran

    Taking the stude to a tranny shop monday to address some leaks and have it adjusted after 45 years of sitting.
    first off, anyone know of a good transmission shop around round rock/austin?
    second, is there a more modern way to seal the transmission than the leather seals?

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    You may have a British or German Car specialist nearby that understands these Studebaker Automatic Drive, Detroit Gear, 3 band Automatics as used in Jaguar, Mercedes Benz and others.

    Carry a LARGE checkbook! Transmission Shops rarely do a "tune-up" on one this old, at the very least they will want to dissassemble it and replace all internal seals, steel rings etc. and check for any problems.

    It is unlikely that the neoprene seals changed, but they are not a problem.
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    is there any parts for the tranny i could buy myself seals, gaskets etc to keep cost down and cut down on time for them to have to wait on parts and such?

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    Supplying your own parts for a trans. shop to rebuild your trans. would be the same as carrying your own eggs to Waffle House. I doubt you'd find a shop that would do that and even if they would, they wouldn' t guarantee YOUR parts THEY would be installing. Hope this helps....Good luck.

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    guess i will let them order everything haha. never done this before. not sure how to go about it

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    Ike's Transmissions on Anderson Ln. is the best. I have been going to him, off and on for 20 years. Honest as the day is long. Don't have his phone no. but he has tacked all of the wierd stuff, including my parents Renault convertible. Can't say enough good about them.

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    I need to stop being in a hurry and read what I post. I should have stated that he tackled all of our wierd transmissions. Will try to do better in the future, but it probably won't do any good.

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    I agree with Dan regarding bringing in your own parts. It's like going to McDonalds and asking them to cook your meat! When someone comes in the shop and wants us to paint or install "their parts" the labor is "sometimes" affected by that. And there is NO guarentee on fit, or quality of said part (s) Reselling of parts does add to the bottom line.
    Find a good shop, and let them do the job complete, then, IF there is an issue, they will (should) take care of it.

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    Personal experience, do as you wish. My '55 sat for 28 years before I got to it. It came with the DG 250M. I called a local transmission shop, the owner came out of retirement to discuss it, came up with $1250 to clean and reseal it, any problems would be extra. I chose to change the rear seal myself and chance it. The thing works like it was new. shifts at 8 mph, 25 mph into lockup third. Its a great transmission.
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    Unless you know of major problems, I would change the transmission and convertor fluid and see what you have then. The transmission and convertor are drained separately.
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    Well, I did take parts to my tranny rebuilder and he appreciated it. S.I. has a rebuild kit. Each to his own, I guess. I found out it was a DG200(m) behind the original 259. That first gear start helps. I have 331 highway gears in the Dana 44.
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    well the car is now sitting at ikes transmissions. expecting the damage report phone call tmrw afternoon.
    i went to try and register the vehicle and any one surprised the state values the car at 11k? the bil of sale is for 1 dollar from my grand father. apparently state wont accept that as a sales price lol

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    Arrg! I bought my car as a basket case and immediately registered it in my name as an unroadworthy vehicle. Had I waited until it was all finished and appraised, I would have paid provincial tax on the appraised value ($30,000)! Can grandfather sign an affidavit that it was a gift? I hate it when they tax you on the finished deal, after they have already taxed you on the parts and labour to get it to that state I actually caught a meter guy writing a ticket on my Stude and there were 6 minutes left on the meter. Guess he was betting that I wouldn't get back there in six minutes. Petty abuse, but blood boiling, all the same.
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    i dont want to bother my grandpa to have to go down and get a notarized gift affidavit. grandma(whose more tech savvy) is just going to write another bill of sale for somewhere between 500 and 1000. just pay the tax on that.

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    Sounds you are a very considerate young man. But sometime us Grandpas like to be bothered !
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    Quote Originally Posted by atomicrm View Post
    well the car is now sitting at ikes transmissions. expecting the damage report phone call tmrw afternoon. I went to try and register the vehicle and any one surprised the state values the car at 11k? the bil of sale is for 1 dollar from my grand father. apparently state wont accept that as a sales price lol
    Quote warrlaw1 Barrie, Ontario, Canada:"Arrg! I bought my car as a basket case and immediately registered it in my name as an unroadworthy vehicle. Had I waited until it was all finished and appraised, I would have paid provincial tax on the appraised value ($30,000)! Can grandfather sign an affidavit that it was a gift? I hate it when they tax you on the finished deal, after they have already taxed you on the parts and labour to get it to that state I actually caught a meter guy writing a ticket on my Stude and there were 6 minutes left on the meter. Guess he was betting that I wouldn't get back there in six minutes. Petty abuse, but blood boiling, all the same."

    I believe you live in the United States of America, correct? We do not put up with that C**p the Feds up in Canada get away with, there is no way they can access the value of that "fixer/parts car" at $11,000.00 you are right to fight it, and I would get the Gift Affidavit as well.

    My cousin tried to register his 1943 Ford Military Jeep, and the Calif. DMV told him it was worth over $20,000.00 and should be taxed as such, we figured out that they looked it up under the only heading they had for a '43 Ford, and it was a Ford Sedan! We took pics of the Jeep rusting in the weeds, and got an appraisal from a Jeep Dealer for $450.00 and settled the whole mess.
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    Motor Vehicle Departments do not like one dollar, or other low figure, Bills of Sale. A gift from a relative is fine and that is how it should be handled.
    Some people have the idea that at least one dollar has to change hands for something to be legal. A gift can be legal.
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