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I like it, Carl - good idea.
Might make the newbies more at home.
Since we have General, Tech and Stove Huggers. Why couldn't we have Modified Section? Since we are getting more and more Modified Studebakers and the General Forum is strictly for the purist and information for the purist.
I like it, Carl - good idea.
Might make the newbies more at home.
Chris Pile
http://midwaystudebakers.tripod.com/
I have no idea where this is coming from. Not true in the least- nor has it ever been.Originally Posted by ST2DE5
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I also don't recall seeing any such restrictions on the General Forum.
The real question is, Do you want a modified forum to expand the wonderful and superb camaraderie on the SDC forum, or do you just want the modified bums out of the general forum?
All jesting aside.....
If you want to differentiate between the two genre's for clarity...
That would be a good thing.
If you want to cleanse the purity portion of the forum, then it's kind of dicey.
The problem forum's generally have, is that if you take a small group of enthusiasts, and then splinter them, then you lose a lot of interest as a whole.
This forum has seen substantial growth, which is great.
But that growth also happened because other, similar, forums lost their base.
Interesting idea though, if it's for the right reasons.
I have 5 Studebakers all modified but one. I drive mine on regular basics. Our newest car is a 65 model the one my wife drives. I just get tired of the comments about modified Studebakers. And you think this forum has grown. You better look again. There is less and less you have run most of the knowledgeable people away. If I have a question I e-mail the ones that use to be on the forum. To get answers.
Good to know where you stand. Nothing wrong with that.
And yes, this forum has grown. An nobody is running anybody off.
People choose to participate on a forum, or not to participate.
If you find your off forum e-mail network of friends satisfactory for your purposes...great!
I agree'd with your premise, but questioned the real reasoning is all.
Exactly. People come and go as they please, for any number of reasons- knowledgeable or otherwise. I see plenty of knowledgeable people here every day. Still the best place to get fast, accurate answers to questions.
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I have never felt this Forum in general to be anti-mod, although there are single posters who do have a strictly purist attitude. I do feel as though if we made it clear that modded Studes are welcome with a "Mod Forum", that it would be a plus for the SDC overall. Does anyone else see the sense in this?
Chris Pile
http://midwaystudebakers.tripod.com/
I doubt a Modified Only forum would help much, unless you locked the "Purists," out of it... which you (or at least I) would not want to do.
If you did that, the next logical step would be to lock the owners of modified Studes out of the other forums.
That would be the only way to prevent the modified owners from seeing (and sometimes responding to) the cheap shots directed at them from the Studelier Than Thou Crowd.
Either scenario would be bad, IMHO. How would a guy building a non-original car be able to offer the parts he does not need to someone that desperately needs them? How would a fellow that owns a modified car, but loves original cars as well be able to enjoy viewing the restoration process, and finished original projects? By the same token, there are folks that own only original cars that appreciate modified cars, and sharing thoughts, time, and experiences with folks from, "The Other Side."
I used to butt heads with folks that made snide comments about my car, but have learned to let the comments run off my back. I think, Carl, that is all we can/should do. Let them have their say, but be mature enough to not lower ourselves to their level. I have made too many friends here to want to see them lost to such a split.
It would be interesting to know (I'm sure the data is available from SDC/meet records) just what % of SDC membership is made up of modified/custom car owners. Keep insulting that percentage, and run the bastardizers out of the club... that would purify the club, eh?
Now, ponder if that would really be healthy for SDC as a whole.
For those that just got an adrenalin rush for love of that concept, imagine, if you will, a Modified Only Studebaker Club... exclusive of SDC. Owners of modified cars could hold their meets in conjunction with, but separate from SDC...paying dues, entry fees, and making donations to the modified cause, rather than the SDC, or our museum.
Far fetched? OK... just imagine that percentage of club members getting tired of the cheap shots, and dropping out of SDC altogether, never again to contribute anything to the club. That's what the previous owner of my car did. He warned me, but I joined the club anyway, and have paid dues, entry fees, and sent donations to the museum for 12 years now.
Methinks unless we are very, very careful, we will become our own enemy.
Last edited by Studedude; 07-19-2010 at 09:44 AM.
Dave Lester
www.davesplaceinc.com
What Studedude said. I love 'em all (well, almost all), and like reading about both stock and modified Studes.
I can't see separating them. I like them all (well 99% of them). I have owned stock and modified Studebakers. There are very few totally stock Studebakers represented here. Many that consider their cars showroom stock have different wheels, tires, radios, A/C, etc. Where would you draw the line? I think that the General Forum just requires the topics to be Studebaker related, not stock (or modified).
Gary L.
Wappinger, NY
SDC member since 1968
Studebaker enthusiast much longer
TURNING WHEELS has a Custom and Modified Column. So why not.
I also support the idea of a Modified section as suggested above. That way , those of us that choose to modify our Studes can more quickly share ideas and photos , ask questions , and not have to wade thru page after page of standard Studebaker questions and comments. I believe the time has come to add this important modified arena ! Let's get with the times ! I think this would encourage the new younger members , and show them we care about their being a part of the SDC ! Thanks.
How would you define "modified?" Although there are a few who are vocally anti-modified, I don't believe they carry the day. I think that if we formed a modified only forum, we would see fewer responses in each forum. For me the General and Stove Hugger Forums give me enough to keep track of. I don't need another forum as well. Let's keep things like they are.
Joe Roberts
'61 R1 Champ
'65 Cruiser
Editor of "The Down Easterner"
Eastern North Carolina Chapter
JR, don't look now, but you ARE keeping track of and posting to the "SDC and Forum Discussions." This Forum may soon become known as the "Coffin Forum" (where topics get "MOVED" to when higher-ups want them out-of-sight & out-of-mind)
I must take exception to that statement. There are no boards on the Forum in which to "bury" a thread. If you use the "What's New" or "New Posts" at the top of the Forum home page (like I do), it doesn't much matter to which board a topic is posted, since all new posts are presented without division as to where they're located.
Welcome's post reminding JR as to which board this topic is being discussed in handily proves my point.
Clark in San Diego
'63 Lark F2 (Standard)
http://studeblogger.blogspot.com
www.studebakersandiego.com
Hey, everyone who cares,
Joe Roberts said "For me the General and Stove Hugger Forums give me enough to keep track of. I don't need another forum as well. Let's keep things like they are."
I will second that with only one exception. I also follow "Studebaker Truck Talk" every day, and for me, three is enough.
I own a custom Stude, but love them all. Bob Bourke who designed my 53 Stude hardtop while working for Raymond Loewy and several other Studebaker cars and trucks once told me at a Studebaker International Meet that he heartily supported the right of every car owner to personalize his or her ride, and showed me pictures of his own customized Stude.
In my opinion, to splinter this group would not be in the best interests of any of us here. There are other sites such as The HAMB that cater solely to modified and custom cars, including Studebakers.
Last edited by stude53; 07-30-2010 at 11:24 AM.
Bob Feaganes (stude53)
53 Starliner Hardtop
Newton Grove, NC
Uhhh, I don't you mean "moved to it's proper Forum?"(where topics get "MOVED" to when higher-ups want them out-of-sight & out-of-mind)
This is where this belongs, don't ja know....
StudeDave '57
I would like to add a different view to this topic if i may. One of the things we Brits tend to like about the "american way" when it comes to cars is the (usually) libereral minded attitude to customising/hot rodding etc. Surely, you have been doing it since cars hit the streets? You invented it. In my view modifying cars is what you do as a nation ,pure restorations of a standard vehicle and modifying is the same hobby as far as i am concerned regarding the US.After all ,modifying CAN be very subtle and intelligent thing to do. NOT SO here,where although it has a big following, car modifying is still looked down upon in quite a few areas. Probably this is a good thing ,as a lot of brit and european classics do not suit the look -simple as that. .In a nutshell i don`t see why you need a seperate forum, except perhaps it may make finding all those retro fit and modifying tips easier to find.I`m a newbie ,great forum though!
Welcome to the forum! So...are you going to find ... say...a 1932 Rolls Royce and install a Studebaker V8?
John Clary
Greer, SC
Life... is what happens as you are making plans.
SDC member since 1975
Er no . Ha ha. "Its not big and its not clever." Thats pretty subtle actually. I think you know where i`m coming from if you have ever been to any of the London "Fine Car Dealers" or auctions.Welcome to the forum! So...are you going to find ... say...a 1932 Rolls Royce and install a Studebaker V8?
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