I am working on a 56 Hawk that has a 57 Golden Hawk engine and a transmission that has been converted to floor shift.
The transmission has common ford style shifter pattern like early mustang with reverse between park & neutral (P,R,N,D,2,1).
The oval transmission tag is sprayed over, but can read 11008 stamped into it.
The problem is the Kickdown and/or Pressure arm that would go to the throttle linkage was cut off for some reason (see picture) and I am not sure why, or if it will burn up the transmission without it.
I know that I can manually shift without it, but don't want to mess it up although I am trying to get it on the road (after sitting about 35 years) soon to drive in the Northwest Overdrive Tour.
I found the following on some other previous posts, but is it going to damage the transmission manually shifting until I can set up a new arm?
Hard to tell what may have been modified, or what the trans 11008 is from.
buddymander
Commander Member
1012 Posts
Posted - 08/31/2008 : 8:10:02 PM
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Without the rod, the transmission thinks you're accelerating very slowly, so it shifts early and soft. You won't hurt it as long as you don't hotrod it while its shifting.
dynolou2
Cruiser Member
USA
121 Posts
Posted - 04/11/2008 : 12:33:05 AM
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On any FMX the kickdown is just that,its only purpose. On the Flightomatic the rod does two operations kickdown AND throttle pressure , it raises transmission mainline pressure in response to accelerator position. If mainline isn't boosted you will get early shifts doggie acceleration and soon a burnt up transmission. Same thing happens to 700R4,s and AOD,s if throttle pressure is set too low or on AOD,s failure of the upper linkage grommit{cooked by engine heat}. On Fmx prior to late 1961 the lever did the same as Flightomatics. Most or all of the parts are available why mess with the Lokar stuff? Lou Cote "Waiting for the sun"
Thanks for any answers (not just opinions) on this.
Note - The lower cut off arm spring applies as it is pressed down and back.
James
The Bell Collection
Bellingham, WA.
The transmission has common ford style shifter pattern like early mustang with reverse between park & neutral (P,R,N,D,2,1).
The oval transmission tag is sprayed over, but can read 11008 stamped into it.
The problem is the Kickdown and/or Pressure arm that would go to the throttle linkage was cut off for some reason (see picture) and I am not sure why, or if it will burn up the transmission without it.
I know that I can manually shift without it, but don't want to mess it up although I am trying to get it on the road (after sitting about 35 years) soon to drive in the Northwest Overdrive Tour.
I found the following on some other previous posts, but is it going to damage the transmission manually shifting until I can set up a new arm?
Hard to tell what may have been modified, or what the trans 11008 is from.
buddymander
Commander Member
1012 Posts
Posted - 08/31/2008 : 8:10:02 PM
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Without the rod, the transmission thinks you're accelerating very slowly, so it shifts early and soft. You won't hurt it as long as you don't hotrod it while its shifting.
dynolou2
Cruiser Member
USA
121 Posts
Posted - 04/11/2008 : 12:33:05 AM
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On any FMX the kickdown is just that,its only purpose. On the Flightomatic the rod does two operations kickdown AND throttle pressure , it raises transmission mainline pressure in response to accelerator position. If mainline isn't boosted you will get early shifts doggie acceleration and soon a burnt up transmission. Same thing happens to 700R4,s and AOD,s if throttle pressure is set too low or on AOD,s failure of the upper linkage grommit{cooked by engine heat}. On Fmx prior to late 1961 the lever did the same as Flightomatics. Most or all of the parts are available why mess with the Lokar stuff? Lou Cote "Waiting for the sun"
Thanks for any answers (not just opinions) on this.
Note - The lower cut off arm spring applies as it is pressed down and back.
James
The Bell Collection
Bellingham, WA.
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