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    Missing VIN Plate

    A friend bought a 1949 Studebaker truck off ebay had it delivered across the US only to find out there is a missing VIN plate. We have title, but nothing to match it. Need help.
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    Are you sure you are looking in the right place for the plate ?

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    Depending on the state, the truck may have been titled off the engine number. You may want to check the front of the block to see if it matches. The serial number plate will be on the left side seat riser.

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    Nobody at the DMV is going to know where the plate is or what it looks like on a 1949 Studebaker. If you have the title you're fine. Get a cheap stamping kit and either stamp the number directly on the door post, or on an appropriate length section from a hose clamp and pop-rivet on, or get one of the repro plates that show up on eBay from time to time.


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    I'm sure I'm looking in the right spot, seat riser (driver's side)to the back. I can see two straight slotted screws that I assume they held in the plate, but no plate. Also the truck was put onto an S10 four wheel drive frame many moons ago and uses a chevy engine, so engine number wouldn't be correct either. My friend bought it as a basket case, the guy who sold it to him...said "of course there is a title". He just didn't mention that there is no VIN plate until it was delivered to the midwest! I'm sure this isn't a stolen vehicle, I can't image anyone stealing a truck that was in this condition, but clearly we can't title it any where until I can find a reproduction plate. My friend, called the guy who sold it to him, who stated he had it somewhere and we would look for it and pigs will learn to fly before that happens in my opinion.

    Also I spent 7 years (30 years ago) working for DMV here inspecting cars and even back then we had books that told us what the vin plates looked like and how they were attached (spot welded, rivets, roseette rivets, straight screws,etc.), so I don't think a piece of metal and a set of number stamps are going to cut it, unless of course that's what they originally looked like and judging from the width of the screws that held the plate on, it was a large plate probably with writing and then stamped.
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    I don't know what state you live in, and I'm sure the DMV laws vary, but I have never lived in a state (and I've lived in several) that inspect the serial number plate for every car that enters the state. I just go to the DMV office with the signed and dated out of state title and am issued a new title for my state. Are there actually states that want to look at the serial number plate for EVERY car that is newly registered in that state?



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    Don't come to Nebraska then, because every car coming into the state gets inspected for Title and VIN plate and a NCIC, NCIS check is run on every out of state vehicle too.
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    Every car coming into Nevada gets an inspection including VIN/Serial # verification. My 51 was titled to the engine # and they held up registration until I could get a "new" title from the old state titled to the Serial #. Took 7 weeks.

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    SC,Anything coming from out of state has to be visually verified.Not saying they couldnt be fooled as they just match the number on the vehicle to the number on the title.Steve

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    Just go to Home Depot and buy an aluminum scuff plate for the bottom of the door and cut off the right size piece and then get a decal off ebay install it and take it to a trophy shop and have it engraved. Then soak it for a while in battery acid and you're good to go.

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    Just to let you know I did find someone to make me up a VIN plate with the Studebaker logo and correctly punched from the back so that the numbers stand out not punched in for my friend's truck. (I'm going to have to assume that he has seen one, where I haven't and that is how they are correctly punched??) The only thing he said was that his font is a little smaller than what Studebaker originally used, but personally I don't think that's going to be a problem. Thanks for all the advice on this issue. Now, all I have to do is come up with a pattern for the cardboard headliner and a few other interior parts and I can get started on doing his interior.
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    I can tell you that in BC a visual inspection of the VIN is completed on each out of province new registration application. When I imported my truck last summer there was a small amount of drama as the Texas Title I had, showed the serial as "F6#" instead of "E6#". Fortunately, I had some Studebaker literature reprints showing that Studebaker never made an "F" series (Thank goodness!! [}][:0]).

    As well, the clerk did have to get an OK from head office before they would complete the registration. Interestingly enough, neither the US or Canadian Border authorities bothered to compare the numbers.

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    Georgia. At least here in Douglas County anyhow.

    quote:Originally posted by Dick Steinkamp

    I don't know what state you live in, and I'm sure the DMV laws vary, but I have never lived in a state (and I've lived in several) that inspect the serial number plate for every car that enters the state. I just go to the DMV office with the signed and dated out of state title and am issued a new title for my state. Are there actually states that want to look at the serial number plate for EVERY car that is newly registered in that state?
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    Dick,
    Oregon wanted to see my cars that I brought into the state from Calif.
    They also wanted to see my wife's "51 Starlight before issueing a new title. When I brought in on a trailer, all they asked to see is the ID plate on the door hinge pillar.


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    The aluminum plate at the rear of the step well isn't the serial number plate. It has the body number, paint, and trim codes.
    The serial number plate is stainless and was usually spot welded and/or screwed in place. It's also located in the step well, below the left end of the seat, as you look straight in.


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    If you're planning on taking it off the S-10 chassis and putting it on a different one (maybe closer to original?), you'll probably need to get a reconstructed title. Sometimes that involves sending the titles for both the body and chassis donor vehicles in to the state, and could also involve being issued a "state issued VIN". If this is the case, then after the vehicle is rebuilt, the old VIN that matches the current title is null and void, and the new one issued by the state is used. They issue a new VIN plate with the new title. I had a '48 Dodge wrecker that had a PA state issued VIN, and the old one that was still on the old plate under the hood didn't match. Didn't matter, the state VIN plate in the doorjamb superceded it. Maybe you can look up something like this in your state, and just get a state issued VIN, and just forget about the original.

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    in PA they have vin verification for outta state cars, either looked at by the dmv, or your local notary public, or they will accept tracings, and even digital photo....

    hmmm, my girlfriend has 2 GT Hawks....and I feel left out, wheres my "R" model Daytona????

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    True, when I brought my Caddy home from Ohio, the notary had to look at the plate. But I knew the guy, and didn't bring the car (not inspected), so he never did look at it.

    Aren't the numbers on the R-series trucks stamped in, not out from the back? I can't remember off hand, and my truck is a mile away in the garage where I store it. If so, go find an old VIN plate somewhere, like a boneyard, sand the numbers off (as I remember, they're not punched too deep), and stamp yours in.

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